Topic: First Debate: Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton (Read 2286 times)

$14M was not even all that much money back in the day considering the success of the family.  Old man Drumpf wanted to make his kid work for it I guess.  Turning 14x10^6 into 10x10^9 is not to shabby even if it took years and there were some touch-n-go patches.

I actually expected a lot more dirt to come out on the Donald by this time, particularly as he played around with casinos.  So far, the only thing I heard was that he overplayed for some concrete to 'work with' the mob/union contingent once.  One would think that if there were a lot more, Hillary would not have had to dig back to 1973 when Daddy Trump was still kicking and everyone and there brother was getting sued by the feds for being mean enough to want their rent to be paid (which I suppose to be at the heart of the matter.)

It looks to me like it is possible to make bucks in the building business in two ways:

 - Low income residential, where being a HUD-linked crony capitalist is the way to succeed.

 - High income.  What Trump migrated to.

If you ask me, Trump figured out how to fairly tax the rich by observing that they would willingly pay absurd amounts of money to hit a little white ball around and chase after it.  That they will fly their private jets around the world to do so benefits a whole swath of citizens.  Kudos to him for doing it as 'right' as seems morally possible in our immoral world.

For real estate in New York, that's a tiny, tiny amount of money. 

Trump did quite well, considering that the moderator was heavily biased against him and she probably knew the questions at least a day before the debate. Still, he was the honest guy out there, with Hillary lying every 30 seconds or so. Hillary's lies about the trade deals are going to cost her a lot of votes in the rust-belt states.

And what Hillary lied? That trump didn't publish their income? Or that he said he doesn't believe in global warming?

I don't understand what did you want to say here: . If you ask me, I wouldn't like a war criminal, thief, liar and an ill person to be my president, also I wouldn't like my president to have 100+ body count on their name. But that's just me.

Defeated Hillary ! Trump was unable to give any decent answer. Such should not be allowed in politics. Against Russia sanctions are to be imposed, not to be friends with her!

For the record, I think it was 1 million that his father loaned him.

Yeah, I was thinking about the possibility that it was her "Double." But someone might be her double because they look like her, but then what about sounding and coming up with answers like her.

I am for Hillary ! At the debate she was much more convincing. It worldwide you know and who will communicate with the trump? He should be treated, not presidential to go. Maybe when you lose for President of Russia will go.

The first debate was won by Hillary ! Let's see how trump drank water. Lied so that her excitement constantly thirsty !

You should watch the vod. It is only a bit more then 90 minutes even though watching half of it would be enough to show what a idiot and lier trump is.

How can you go live on tv and lie with a straight face to over 100 million people - in fucking 2016 when even kids in africa have smartphones with internet access and can fact check everything you say in less then 5 minutes.

How did he even became candidate. It is incomprehensible for me.

LOL, I didn't watch the debate, but i read the news says most people think Hillary won the debate.

Is the stat accurate?

Online votes where you can vote as often as you want.

Like you really need to have brain cancer and additionaly be a mongoloid to really believe that trump won.

Hilarious.

Almost every single poll is saying that Trump won the first debate (except the biased poll by CNN). Here is a summary of the poll results:



Now we are off to Longwood University, Virginia, where Mike Pence will be debating Tim Kaine. The moderator for this debate also (Elaine Quijano) is a pro-Democrat reporter (from the CBS News).

My strongest hypothesis at this point is that Hillary does indeed have some significant medical issues, but I was unsurprised that they could be controlled effectively for at least the duration of a debate.  Given the comforts which she enjoys in other related forums (stools, pillows, physical assistance, etc) she did impress me with her abilities yesterday, but again, low bar.

I have predicted for a long long time that Hillary will need to find a way to bail if she needs to face Trump in the general because she will lose badly.  When I made these predictions initially it was far from certain that Trump would not be stopped by the Republicans themselves who gave a pretty good effort here.  Initially I thought she would bow out for legal reasons associated with one of her many criminal activities.  Some months ago I switched to thinking that she would use a medical excuse.  And thus, that some of her more recent medical issues may have been 'for show' to a degree.

If I were Trump, my biggest fear would be that Hillary would indeed drop out.  I mean, one would struggle to find a more flawed candidate to replace her!  It kind of looks to me now like she is doing a 'smeagol & ring' and may try to stay with it.  It seems to be an inexplicable psychological given with some of these people (Nixon, Edwards, etc.)  If I were Trump, I would do whatever is necessary to keep her around...which is why I suggested earlier that that may be exactly what Trump and his team are doing.

Giant douche vs turd sandwich debate  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0BuPgrBwHU





Memorable quote from this farsighted episode:

"What I Learned Today?

I learned that I'd better get used to having to pick between a douche and a turd sandwich because it's usually the choice I'll have."

Im pretty sure atleast three people in this thread believe this as real.
Trump was an idiot and lost the debate hard. But he has the luck not to be judged as every other candidate because most of his supporters are delusional and biased as hell.

Trump was basically outright lying over half of the debate.

And i wasnt the only one thinking what the fuck is with trump. Is he really saying the moon is made up of cheese.

Garrison's work lately has been cracking me up

Your English is so bad that you are from Russia probably. No need to argue who's smart and who's not here.

I wouldn't say that. I think that first debate for Hillary. What a smart person would vote for Trump? Except that Russia will help money. Then you will live in Russia !