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Why do people who are so worried about population growth (like Bill Gates) put so much time and money into vaccines?

Why did Bertrand Russell write this about future societies back in the early 1950's:

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Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society
Simon and Schuster, New York, 1953

Page 30:

    It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment.

    This subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship. Anaxagoras maintained that snow is black, but no one believed him. The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive. Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten. Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid taste for eccentricity. . . . It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark gray.

Pages 50-51:

    Fichte laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. But in his day this was an unattainable ideal: … In future such failures are not likely to occur where there is dictatorship. Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so.

Page 51:

    Children will, as in Plato’s Republic, be taken from their mothers and reared by professional nurses. Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton.

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On a related topic, I notice this in looking for a good example of the above:



What we old-timers on the more hairy end of the spectrum failed to appreciate was that 2040 would become THE DESIRABLE LOOK in the eyes of most people.  Russell sheds a lot of light on how that came to be.

I didn't infer anything, you did in order to give the false impression you had something to correct. What I said was 100% factual. Injecting substances into your bloodstream directly not only is very different than consuming them, but it also can cross the blood brain barrier, which is something that is almost never the case when consuming a substance. The rest is just horse shit misdirection from your own stupidity.

Yes and Wikipedia says that No monkey bits have been used in vaccines since the 1960s after scientists realized that tens of million Americans have potentially been contaminated with SV40 monkey bits that caused cancer in hamsters.

Then wether, other stuff is currently being used in vaccines and that we will learn about their side effects in the next few years, I won't argue with you.  There will likely be plenty of new big pharma scandals.

However, vaccines have saved billions of people, that is a fact.
Vaccines have also killed "some" people  (the one in a million cases).

Wikipedia has two basic kinds of information. It has the simple info that it tells the truth about. The sky is blue. Grass is green. Milk is racist, I mean white.

Then they have the other stuff that they aren't so clear on, and often have false info. It's stuff that is difficult to find.

I think that you will find that there are all kinds of "things" in modern vaccines that aren't supposed to be there, except that vaccine makers are trying to elicit now info from the vaccinated, just like they are studies. That's not what the people want. They think they are being protected. Vaccine makers know from experience that they aren't protecting anybody. Yet they keep on with their charade.

i told badecker this fact months ago in another topic. it shut him up for a bit.. but seems he has a memory of a goldfish and circles back to fiction land of his antivaxxer scripts quite often. so i just gently nudge him back to reality again.
i was going to quote it again. but thought it wasnt worth going full on spoodfeeding mission. as he obviously didnt remember it from last time. but im glad you linked it.(saved me time)
it should give some peace and quiet about that aspect for.. a month.. hopefully more

I'll add some source to this.
It was very very interesting to read about it.

Basically monkey kidney vaccines  were stopped in the 60s



source : https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/02/vaccine-race-history-science-politics-meredith-wadman/#:~:text=At%20the%20time%2C%20monkey%20kidney,lethal%20cancers%20in%20laboratory%20hamsters.

And wiki :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WI-38

We don't need the current vaccine atempts. Covid has already mutated.


Here’s the lowdown on whether the coronavirus has already mutated

you inferred that whats injected stays in its exact same state and passes the bloodbrain barrier as is.
i corrected your assumption that your body does things to it before even getting near the brain. and the only way for your inference/scare tactic to be real is if someone was to directly inject the vaccine into the brain. which never happens

if you really want something to concern yourself that has some factual relevance. and not your cultish anti-vaxxer nonsense
is that if its injected in the fatty tissue vs the muscle.
the body metabolises it in the muscle and takes care of your first fears..
but if dont in the fatty tissue. it lingers there and can cause some irritation and to simplify it down.. gets all sticky and forms a fatty shell thus less metabolised as it goes around your system once it gets into your blood stream. but here is the good part. the fatty one.
once cycling your bodie blood stream wont get into your brain very well. thus less likely to be immunised up there.

so in short. your main worry is the skin irritation at the injection spot because the doctor didnt stick it in deep enough

And these are the same complex things that make it almost impossible to tell which virus is causing the problem, if a vaccine is going to wiggle things just right, and if the vaccine is even safe.

The real reason for all that other garbage in vaccines is that the immune system often doesn't react enough, or fast enough to tell if the vaccine is working or not. Throw the other garbage in, and the immune system goes into panic overdrive, and maybe, if you are lucky, the original virus being protected against, will suddenly find such change in the ecology of the body, that it won't have anything that it is interested in "eating" any longer, and it will simply die off. It's not even about getting the immune system to develop herd immunity of any sort.

In other words, don't destroy the virus in question. Simply make its "food" to be non-existent by dramatically changing the cells of the body. Of course, when this happens, it screws with the whole health of the person, and makes him vulnerable to all kinds of other things... that will have to be vaccinated against later. More money for the vaccine companies.

your own topic creations 'mothers report' was about the chickenpox / MMR vaccines

over the last 30+years there are only 9 chicken pox strains
so your yet again unresearched assumptions that these strains mutate rapidly in the space of person to person makes you look more of a fool when you try to advertise it as a reason to say vaccines don work

if these 9.. 3 are more based in the middle-east/asia area and 3 are more based in europ/america
and another 3 are dotted inbetween

however there are 2 main chickenpox vaccines can each take care of 4-5 strains

i know you want to beleive that a vaccine is made just to cover a single strain. and i know you want to hope that strains alter every month..
but the truth is that its more like a 5-15 YEAR event to cause a mutation of any significant difference that would then require new vaccine research

but hey.
the world knows there are only ~9 chicken pox strains and only need 2 types of vaccine dependant on what area your in.
but i know you will still try to push the myth that there are millions of strains and a vaccine is only able to counter 1 strain.
but thats your own ignorance making you not really know whats true

Is that what I said? Is that your expert opinion Dr. Franky?

i would tell that vaccines are not injected directly in the brain. and your body has many complex things tht go on before anything even reaches the bloodbrain barrier

In the past you linked to safety studies. But safety studies that have control groups regarding vaccines have never been forthcoming. There is a reason for this, of course. Viruses mutate too rapidly for a study to have any value. The virus is gone or has changed, so the vaccine safety study is useless... if there even is one.

Got any links for anything that you state? Wuhan uses monkey brains and anything else they want.

I would tell you that consuming compared to injecting a substance that crosses the blood brain barrier along with an adjuvant has two TOTALLY different effects, but you already know that now don't you?

maybe start by googling
adjunct vs adjuvants
(not essential/supplement/junk additive) vs (essential/enhancing/catalyst additives)

then you will realise that there is a difference
then do some research about how 'monkey kidneys' have not even been a thing for ~50 years so kids today have no worries..
.. well unless your the 51+yo kid in question


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then look at the amount of ingrediants (microlitre values) in a vaccine and then google that 'ingrediant' in comparison to how much of it is contained in daily food/drink.

then come back once you have some answers.

please atleast while your having this independant thought moment. spend some time within those thoughts to do some proper research outside your cultish websites.

you may learn something. instead of just repeating a cultish narrative.
you may even be surprised by the less hostility you receive by actually doing more independant thinking/research

lets see..

(research spoiler: theres more of these 'ingredients' in a weeks food than a lifetime of vaccines)
(research spoiler: mercury was never in MMR or chickenpox vaccines or other similar childhood vaccines)
(research spoiler: white-bread/non-organic veg contains more mercury than a vaccine. but you can just ask for a mercury free vaccine)
(research spoiler: your cultish websites are not looking to heal kids. they want folowers to buy THEIR chemical supplements, so the cutish people can work at home and not get proper jobs. by deceiving people into handing them money on trust without proper credability, just scare tactics)
(research spoiler: when cultish leaders try to tell its flock that the world is a scary place out to kill them. and the only safe place is to hand the cultish leaders money/assets/devotion. and do the influencers bidding. you start to see the real agenda)

To start, Google "CDC vaccine ingredients."     

I admire the intellectual thinking you just did.
If done properly,  a vaccine shouldn't be harmful to the body (ie if it was just a dead virus with saline solution).

The same way, a blue cheese  (that has "mold") done according to the best practice isn't toxic for the body but contain something that should, in theory, makes us sick

Like not all humans are created equal, not all vaccines are  made the same way

I'm not surprised at all. Actually, I had though you would have been able to read and think at the same time, a lot sooner than this.

wait
is badecker for once having an independant thought
is badecker finally grasping that its not actually the vaccine, but the adjunct ingredients in the mixture

wow. id never expected to see the day where badecker peels his mind away from his influencers that are virus deniers.

good on you badecker. a clear independent and actually relevant question to ask
scrw it. ill even give you some merit for this fluke event of an actual real valid question coming from you
but dont let it go to your head

Would you drive cars if the manufacturer held zero liability for the safety of their vehicles? Would you eat food from producers who had zero liability if the food caused disease? Would you take drugs that the pharmaceutical companies had zero liability for if they caused injury or death? No? Then why exactly is injecting yourself and your children with drugs that the manufacturer holds zero liability for some how the exception?