Pages:
Author

Topic: First UK's bitcoin robbery. Stay safe. - page 3. (Read 725 times)

member
Activity: 144
Merit: 10
January 30, 2018, 11:31:59 AM
#52
This was always going to happen, Bitcoin and digital currencies are big mainstream news now, it's a shame to be in such a great era of crossover from the controlling banks to a decentralized trusted network, and here we are with criminals taking a family at gunpoint! Just be aware of your surroundings and people, don't flaunt your wealth and seems the less said about BTC the better, at least around new people - pretty backward really... Seems this guy was a trader and his name and address was on companies house.
member
Activity: 252
Merit: 10
January 30, 2018, 09:12:43 AM
#51
This is a lesson for all of us, to better keep our secrecy on the internet in order not to be known to those who want evil.
But this is not the first time it happened, in 2015 in my country there is a bombing terror, and ask for bitcoin as a ransom.
you can see it here
http://megapolitan.kompas.com/read/2015/10/29/16441531/Teroris.Peras.Mall.Alam.Sutera.dengan.Minta.100.Bitcoin
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
January 30, 2018, 07:17:08 AM
#50
That is why it's so important to keep your privacy and anonymity hidden. We know cryptocurrencies have advantages in term of untraceable currencies, and the ecosystem contains a lot of anonymity. I'm sure keeping your identity private on the internet is essentials.

but apart from telling your wife,

Don't tell the wife. She will want a share when getting divorce.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
January 30, 2018, 06:55:24 AM
#49
I thought it will happen sooner or later. Very bad news for all.
Earning money in crypto is not so hard at this point, but those bad people only look for the easiest way.
member
Activity: 120
Merit: 21
January 30, 2018, 06:46:15 AM
#48
This is really a very scary news that gave me a lesson to be a low profile man, not to spread the word about bitcoin holdings, especially about money, or to put money on trustworthy people, such as parents, I can let my parents keep some of my bitcoin.
member
Activity: 105
Merit: 10
January 30, 2018, 06:36:48 AM
#47


And seriously, what's the best practice to prevent such cases, when you hold/have access to significant amount of bitcoins?

That's blooming obvious. Do the same as Satoshi, stay anonymous.

Don't make your face, ID, live in public for the criminals to see.
yes, keep a low profile - that is one.
And two - buy yourself a hardware wallet and configure it to have all your funds safely under one PIN and your "hot wallet" - a fraction of your funds - under another PIN. If you are made to reveal your PIN with a gun against your head, chances are you will be eventually made to reveal both PINs, but still - chances are, you may percevere.

full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
January 30, 2018, 06:24:40 AM
#46
wow a haven't think robbery like that, this is a lesson for us people. From the good there is the bad, bitcoin is something very precious than we thing, and so precious bitcoin bring in evil near us. This robbery, make us to be careful to make some transaction to other people in real world. i hope wallet developer take action to something like this and make a precautionary measure or like a panic button for such a situation
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1561
January 30, 2018, 06:16:23 AM
#45
honestly bitcoin owners wont have much public protection,

They have the same level of protection as any other members of the public.

because the public has to pay for it with higher electricity bills,

Not really. Mining uses shitload of energy but not enough to cause shortage. Electricity prices in UK (and most likely in other European countries) are holding steady since 2009. Small increases are due to inflation and rising network costs, while the 'wholesale price' of electricity are actually dropping.

i dont even feel sorry for you because i see you as a propagandistic selfcentered fanatic sect.

Fair enough. There's a lot of cult-like behaviour here, but yet, the most constructive and harsh criticism of btc/crypto (pointing vulnerabilities, flaws, potential attack vectors etc) is coming from the community itself rather than from the outside.

there will anyway come a time where there wont be communal currencies anymore its called:

the time beyond prices and the time with the coins of style and leadership

I won't even pretend that I understand what you wrote here. It smells like a product of "bullshit generator". I hope I'm not replying to a bot.
full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 110
Helios Protocol https://discord.gg/cpzAEMB
January 29, 2018, 10:42:38 PM
#44
I first heard about this yesterday, and I suspect it must have been facilitated from a connected person who knew what they were doing. Better to keep your financial activities confidential. The blockchain is however traceable and even savvy thieves moving crypto around will leave a trail on the blockchain that cyber crime can follow when they try to cash out?
member
Activity: 266
Merit: 10
January 29, 2018, 10:32:47 PM
#43
This is a very sad news. I think the victim may have known the robbers or the mastermind or the person who tipped them. If we have lots of money in bitcoin don't tell them to anyone. Keep it by yourself or to someone who you trust.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 133
- hello doctor who box
January 29, 2018, 10:19:24 PM
#42
Adding some things with your exchanges would not even make anything change. We're running on a peer to peer system there are no middle man(s) to check the transaction or hold the address of the person who robed you.

This may become a new thing when it comes to illegal activities like robbery. The best whay to do is just don't let them know that you're holding cryptocurrencies.
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
January 29, 2018, 07:56:45 PM
#41
Sad story from UK, it's all over the news today:

Britain's first Bitcoin heist as trader forced at gunpoint to transfer cyber currency
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/28/britains-first-bitcoin-heist-trader-forced-gunpoint-transfer/

Quote
Armed robbers broke into the family home of a city financier turned Bitcoin trader and forced him to transfer the digital currency at gunpoint, in what is believed to be the first heist of its kind in the UK.

Four robbers in balaclavas forced their way into the home of Danny Aston, 30, who runs a digital currency trading firm, before reportedly tying up a woman and forcing Mr Aston to transfer an unknown quantity of the cryptocurrency.
...

Other links:
http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/29/uks-first-bitcoin-robbery-prolific-trader-forced-transfer-fortune-7268576/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5444048/bitcoin-robbery-gunpoint-danny-aston-oxfordshire-amy-jay-baby/



I hope targeting bitcoiners won't become a new trend for criminals.

And seriously, what's the best practice to prevent such cases, when you hold/have access to significant amount of bitcoins? Sure you could hide your private key (or part of it) in some secure place outside of your home, but then the risk of you (or your family) getting tortured or even killed increases. Well organised group as described above unlikely would be happy to leave with nothing.

And what about exchanges? 2FA is a prevention from hacking, but won't work at all if you're held at gunpoint. I'd be very happy to see some extra (opt-in) security features on exchanges, i.e. few days delay in withdrawing BTC above certain amount.

Thoughts?

Disclaimer: I'm just a humble crypto-enthusiast and only hold modest amounts. Plz no raid.

Edit: alternative thread (no signatures allowed): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29168004 (thanks vintages)

honestly bitcoin owners wont have much public protection,

because the public has to pay for it with higher electricity bills,

i dont even feel sorry for you because i see you as a propagandistic selfcentered fanatic sect.

there will anyway come a time where there wont be communal currencies anymore its called:

the time beyond prices and the time with the coins of style and leadership

regards
full member
Activity: 1218
Merit: 105
January 29, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
#40
I think you should always have a hardwallet such as Trezor or Ledger, and you should keep it inside a safe, if you have a lot of Bitcoins probably even in a security vault at the bank. And the backup phrases also somewhere safe.

That doesn't matter when you have a gun pointed at your head.  You will go get that Ledger or Trezor and transfer them your cryptocurrencies.  Best thing is to not advertise yourself as having cryptos.  

Yeah correct, Life is much valuable than crypto currencies you hodl, and your mind will surely panic when you are in a horrific situation like that and. The news about the robbery is kinda alarming, Better to be silent if you have crypto's than telling the whole world that you have and your part of the crypto community. Precaution is better than cure just like the doctors says, If you know what I mean. Cool
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1088
CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!
January 29, 2018, 07:13:59 PM
#39
That is why it's so important to keep your privacy and anonymity hidden. We know cryptocurrencies have advantages in term of untraceable currencies, and the ecosystem contains a lot of anonymity. I'm sure keeping your identity private on the internet is essentials.

Yes - and don't brag, you just incentivise people to try to dox you.

So many people want to show off, for 30 seconds of puffing their egos, but apart from telling your wife, keep quiet about how much you have made.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1047
Your country may be your worst enemy
January 29, 2018, 07:08:19 PM
#38
Well, I guess this was bound to happen. I was expecting such a thing to happen in Texas though, and not in the UK. There are no more safe places in this world.

I think I have a solution. You just need several wallets. If you look at my computer, you will see right away a BTC icon to my wallet, but there's little money in it. Most of BTC lies in other wallets, but there's nothing to show that I'm having several wallets, which are... Elsewhere. And you would have to hurt me real bad, to force me to tell you that those wallets actually exist.
jr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 1
January 29, 2018, 06:59:36 PM
#37
Anonymity ... Privacy ... Privacy
X100
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
January 29, 2018, 06:58:45 PM
#36
Forced him? How? Trader who cannot afford security company? LOL
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1273
January 29, 2018, 06:42:25 PM
#35
That is why it's so important to keep your privacy and anonymity hidden. We know cryptocurrencies have advantages in term of untraceable currencies, and the ecosystem contains a lot of anonymity. I'm sure keeping your identity private on the internet is essentials.
member
Activity: 118
Merit: 10
January 29, 2018, 06:41:17 PM
#34
It's a warning to bitcoin holders. They could no more remain careless as before because now almost everyone seems to know the worth of bitcoin.
copper member
Activity: 336
Merit: 258
Do you need a campaign manager? PM me.
January 29, 2018, 06:06:12 PM
#33
Bitcoin is safe against these operations and the biggest proof of that is the first operation since 2011.
On the other hand, one must deal cautiously with Deep/Dark internet.
Save your pvt key in a safe place and try to use strong VPN.
use some safe coins like monero  with risky payment.

Have you even read what the OP has posted? This is not a digital attack and not "Deep / Dark Net", but a physical attack with handguns.
It is difficult to protect yourself if you are not prepared for it. No one assumes that you will be robbed because of btc or other altcoins.
You can hide your private key in a safe, but I'll tell you, as soon as someone hits you with a pistol, you'll give him the private key voluntarily.
Not even the best safe in the world will help. Also, a VPN does not help or another cryptocurrency.
It seems to me, as if you had actually not read the post of the OP.

The best way to protect yourself from such attacks is that you do not tell everyone how many or that you own btc at all.
Pages:
Jump to: