Topic: Fixed matches group in 3rd world countries - page 2. (Read 495 times)

Many of these signals are based on chance of luck. It is just like winning today and losing tomorrow that is why one has to be very careful how we become so confidence about the signal bets we are getting and how much risk we are taking. If you want to make money from football signal group, it is better we go for free groups we can join and make some quick profit rather than trying hard for join expensive groups that would be demanding money for all bets. We need to understand what bet we are betting on and the level of the risk we need to take so that we don't have to keep losing money for nothing from bad signal bets.

To be honest, there is only one logical explanation to those kinds of groups in which I can think of from the top of my head. That is likely a money laundering scheme.
The administrator is part of a criminal syndicate or something, that way he manages to know the results of the fixed matches. Since they criminal organizations is earning money from it (and probably from other illegal activities) it is likely they have found out giving money to people and guiding them to bet in exchange for a slice of the money is a clever idea to hide the origin of the money if you think about it.

The money is given to the people though an on-chain transaction, then the people deposit the money onto the casino, since they are relatively small amounts the casino does not get triggered by those deposits. The people bet on the fixed game and take the money out again for them and for the administrator, the dinisntrator ends up receiving money which is completely untethered to the original tokens he used to pay the gamblers. After all the process is finished, the money launderers have thousands of dollars which can be deposited in an exchange without being linked to a tainted address, those stayed in the casino.

That is my opinion...

They might have their reasons for doing that, probably to spread out the bets so they won't be noticed. But my real concern is that the bettors are given money by the mastermind of the syndicate and then expected to share the winnings. Isn't it also skeptical that someone, the capitalist, is willing to lend that money to bettors without assurance that it will be used according to purpose?

Well, I have joined in a lot of fixed match groups both on Facebook and telegram, and for some, even on WhatsApp, but I've never come across any group where the admin of that group is the one distributing the money the members of that group us for betting on the fixed matches provided by the admin himself.
And I am sorry to say but this is hard to believe, I mean that I can't believe this to be true until I see and possible join this particular group myself.

And to the above, I would like to ask you why you have not joined the group?, atleast, you should tell your friend to give you the link to join the group, then join and confirm things for yourself, that is, be sure that your friend told you about this group is the truth, and possibly, try it out and tell us your own personal experience and not what your friend told you.

Nothing surprising, third world countries are poor and they don't mind to trade titles for money.

But I doubt someone want to publicity the fixed match for free, why they need to tell it to other people when they alone can advantage over it and bet as much as possible to earn maximum profit?

I'm really skeptic with people who offer to make more money.

Even if the method works, I suggest everyone not engaging in fixed matches bets, because it's cheating. People involved on the scheme aren't being scammed, but they are scamming the fools on the other side who believe the games are fair and legit. This is dirty money for the winners.

It's up to each one to believe it or not, but dirty money doesn't bring anything productive to us. The group's administrator isn't trying to help anyone to earn money. He is simply decreasing the risks of losing big money through an account ban, so he uses a hundred of strawmen to place small bets for him, then he profits on the quantity of bets made, from many different casinos' accounts which are managed by his strawmen.

it's probably deleted but I doubt the guy who created that thread got banned, as far as I know, posting something like that is not a bannable offence. anyway, throughout the years offers like that sometimes pop up on the gambling board and are always greeted with disdain and suspicion of being a scam(which it most likely is).

MAAManda's point is accurate; this whole story sounds like the so-called entrepreneurs you find on social media boasting how much money they make, and they can teach you as well, for the amount of $X. Who in the right mind would share their niche in making money and risk saturating it? However, this story sounds a bit different; the administrator is supposedly banned from casinos and is using other users to his advantage, while he remains mostly anonymous. Although this might as well be an excuse, there's the possibility it contains some grain of truth.

I find this whole case quite sketchy. Even if my friend is appearing to make a reasonable amount of money, I also feel like something is off. Will it be a purposely wrong bet in order to make the exit scam, or will I get in actual trouble for participating in such matches? Who knows?

I have come across such groups a few times especially on telegram and I'm aware that most of them are fraudulent and such that we shouldn't put our funds into because its most definitely going to result in us probably getting to loose our funds to the casino and and in some cases the administrators of such groups of which after such games must have probably come to an end we may not get to even be able to keep in touch with such admins as they will have abscond and probable exit the group s reaching them becomes almost not possible.

some of these country with leagues that aren't popular can most likely get manipulated but not any that I'm sure will be such that will be brought to the casino because they know if many persons are aware of the manipulations and play then they are defiantly going to place a bet on such games which is goin to cause the casino to loose a whole lot of funds.

I live in a developing country and yeah, fixed matches happen here but don't expect that someone will tell you the result of the fixed match in exchange for some bucks. Matches are fixed in a very inner circle that only club owners, players and sometimes coaches know and they make bets themselves. Just imagine, what if you sell a fixed match and a spy or an agent buys it? Can you imagine how big of a risk it is? By hiring a spy and agent, many fixed matches were leaked in my country and those who were trying to fix the match, ended up in prison for years. Don't get lied, no one will tell you real fixed matches, it's such a huge risk for them for such a low amount of money that it doesn't really worth to spend years in prison.

Totally true, that these groups are close knit because this is a big issue once it becomes a thing that's presented to the wrong people, you end up with a full investigation on the matter of match fixing and if you're unlucky that you don't know any friends in high places then it's going to be a full blown investigation. I don't think you're telling the truth about not joining these groups though, it's a really exclusive group and the money behind it is probably too tempting to turn away anyway, you're probably going to have to join by force anyway because you already know about it, for me, if it happens to me, I'll just enjoy the show and join.

I figure trying don't cause too much harm if you go in with reasonable hopes.  MAAManda raises a good point too - if these people really had solid info that works, they'd just be using it themselves and raking in the cash.  So before you even think about joining, make sure to watch your back.  Maybe use fake profiles you don't care about getting banned or something. Just be careful because if it sounds too good to be true, it always is.  And these sport betting sites will slam that ban hammer down fast if they catch a whiff of you using some service to try beating them.

Ultimately it's your call.  If you try it, go low-risk.  But something tells me you already know better than to bet big on questionable tips from Internet strangers.  In the end, trust your gut bet what you can lose, and don't expect miracles.

Good luck either way though!

Fixed matches might exist, but I haven’t seen any before. If a match is fixed, do you think it’s going to be taken to social media to make it public that the match is fixed? If a match is fixed, then it should be something that will be done hidden. People who fix it will just decide to place a bet on it, and they will make their money, but if they are caught, there is punishment for that. Any fixed matches that you see marketing on social media are scams, if a match is fixed, it won’t be taken to social media.

I have heard about it before, but I haven’t experienced any fixed match before. There are lots of groups like that on telegram and WhatsApp, they will keep on editing people's winning slips, and they will be posting it claiming they won their bet, but all that is just to motivate people to pay and join their group. If they were having fixed matches, they should have been rich, and they wouldn’t be begging people to join their group.

Beforenow, I have talked about one Twitter account that someone referred me to some years ago. The guys that have that account usually post free games, and people collect those games and stake, which usually turn out successful for them. After you win, he will upload the ticket on his page. He also has a VIP section for people who want to pay for games that they believe are 80–90% sure. 

I can no longer remember the name of that Twitter handle. I don't trust any of those fixed match groups; those guys are very manipulative, and they can actually fudge fake winning tickets to make you believe that there is really a lot of winning going on, while it's not true. 

He has no interest in scamming people because he is exposing himself by giving away money, he is in a position of not being able to make money on his own, if he tries this with one account or just with his friend's bookies will immediately see that 20 guys from city x are betting on the same stupid game from a 4th league in Zanzibar while nobody else in the whole 100 million country does so which is an instant red flag and furthermore is not having his name anywhere. He sends people money and he gets money back,his name is on no casino/sport betting site, he is not gambling he is just a guy on the internet, the ones actually putting the bets are the ones risking getting banned, that's why he needs a ton of them.

It's illegal and it won't last long for the guys doing the actual betting if they are not smart but it's not really a scam, if we were to label cammers those would be the players that fix these matches, not the mules in the scheme.The best comparison would be large drug dealers they need smaller one to do the distributing, they can't do it without them and they have no intention to sell them bad merchandise as it would ruin them too, plus is the street dealers who are risking the most.

Unfortunately, these schemes exist, the fixed matches do so and the worst is that is still quite a lucrative business,so it will go on for quite a while.
That why I don't bet on tennis matches, any other single player event or 2nd 3rd league events.
Even my favorite sort, horse racing is a bit harder to fix, you can have your horse flop so he will lose, but you will never be sure who will win instead! 

I'm willing to, but I haven't had the opportunity yet. I'll probably discuss it with my friend next week. I'm fully aware that money doesn't grow on trees, and something that sounds too good to be true probably isn't. I've never joined any signal groups in the past, simply because I don't trust them. Why would anyone give information when they could use it themselves? This case seems different a little from what we're used to, but that doesn't make it legit in the long run. Even if I involve myself in the group, it would still be reasonable to be skeptical about it. Just because it works now and pays doesn't mean it's going to in the next one or two months; that's exactly how Ponzis' work.

There’s a lot of fixed matches especially on lower league of 3rd world countries since sports committee in there is not that strict on enforcing security for the teams including corruption and inside job.

This is the reason why casino often offer lower odds on minor leagues since there’s some abuse happening on some country which casino offer with their books. Your friend is lucky to find a group that has a sharer that only require voluntary profit to source while typically there’s a premium fee when you enter to this group aside from profit sharing.

Okay, unless that, because initially I was thinking maybe it's the total amount that was shared and not the profit, because if it's actually only the profit, then it means such strategy is likely to work. But one thing whoever happens to be a member of that group should know is that such strategy don't last long, as I have this feeling, the admin in that group will one day stop giving free games after he/she may have built his/her trust with all members in that group, and as such start selling his game at an exorbitant amount, which may lead to scam.

Fact: Because one thing we should all know is that all platform, groups that are reported to be scam today were one genuine, but as time goes on, they started scamming people, and as such don't ever trust any platform/group you happen to be a member today 100%. Thanks

Until you try it directly and explain the experience, I'll never believe the Telegram or Facebook groups you're referring to. The basic reason is from my experience of gambling on football since high school and joining many betting signal groups, but none of them are truly legit, back to the words that I think make the most sense as to why they're a scam are "simply if they ( admins) have accurate information, they don't have to make signals because they can enrich themselves".

Yes, I heard about that groups in social media but I never believe it. I prefer to analyze by myself than depends on that groups because we never knows if they can gives a right information and that can makes us get lose the money. I also not believe when someone tells me that they can helps me to double my money in a short time, especially in gambling because gambling is not a place to make money. If they can gives the right information to people, why they don't use that for their own goods because human is greed and they will use something that can benefits them before they gives to other people. But we can't stops people from joining that groups because every people will have their own decision but they must knows what's the risks so they can thinks twice before decides.