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Topic: [FIXED]Homographs are fixed.Thank you theymos, again. See my report. (Read 724 times)

legendary
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Copied text from the search results and tested here >
The URL is missing however I guess it's the same URL below
https://www.textmagic.com/free-tools/unicode-detector
legendary
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could you point me to the original content for the first message or the source from where was copied?

No problem >

The original :
~ snip~

Well forum may not be the best solution for publishing news but a lot of people are simply accustomed to forums ... anyway thank you for your efforts and answers here.
The copy:
Greetings  Well, forum may not be the best solution for publishing news but a lot of people are simply accustomed to forums ... anyway thank you for your efforts and answers here.

BTW,I'll copy this to the Plagiarisms accusation thread.
hero member
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could you point me to the original content for the first message or the source from where was copied?
legendary
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I have tested it now and I can say that this is great!! I'm able to search for homographs as before and I get results highlighted in yellow as before, but not the actual posts are converted to Latin so it's easier to directly search for plagiarism.

Test Example >

Here is one from today >
Greetings  Well, forum may not be the best solution for publishing news but a lot of people are simply accustomed to forums ... anyway thank you for your efforts and answers here.
This is how it looks in the search engine, same as before>


Copied text from the search results and tested here >


Copied text from the actual post and tested here >




Here is the effect of the fix on the Cyrillic posting outside the local section >

я paд чтo yзнaл o пpoeктe пoчти в caмoм нaчaлe eгo paбoты, нpaвитcя чтo paзpaбoтчики внeдpяют cиcтeмy пocтeпeннo, нe фopcиpyя coбытия!лyчшe cдeлaть внaчaлe пpoдyкт и yжe пoтoм выxoдить c ним, a нe дopaбaтывaть eгo yжe в пpoцecce.yдaчи вaм!


legendary
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The English sections should only contain English. If a post is posted in Russian in one of the English sections it would be off topic and should be reported

Yes, I report every post I find written in other languages than English.

Done. I only did the ones that look really similar to Latin characters, and it only applies to English sections. It's done at display time, so it's retroactive.

Great, I'll be monitoring the next few days to see how it goes Smiley
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The English sections should only contain English. If a post is posted in Russian in one of the English sections it would be off topic and should be reported
legendary
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Done. I only did the ones that look really similar to Latin characters, and it only applies to English sections. It's done at display time, so it's retroactive.
What does this mean for Russian text that is legitimately posted in English sections?

For reference, the correct translation of "ктo-нибyдь" is "someone" or "somebody", not "who - нибyдь". Come on, even Google Translate gets that one right. Roll Eyes
Nope, Google Translate can't make heads or tails of it now. Sad This could be a problem (though whether it's a bigger problem than plagiarism remains to be seen).
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Done. I only did the ones that look really similar to Latin characters, and it only applies to English sections. It's done at display time, so it's retroactive.
legendary
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To be more serious:
These spammers who use these special characters don't think that mods will easily find those posts and will delete them? Their activity will decrease and they won't get paid... It's a kind of thing that can be spotted easily so it doesn't worth the effort, but this is just my opinion.... Do you think they don't read the Meta section at all?

I asked many times to add those to the rules but got no support from theymos. They can get away only with deleted posts instead of ban as they are hiding plagiarism but it's difficult to prove it.
Oh they read meta for sure, when I suggested to ban everyone who has more than 1 changed character in a post, they started posting with only one hompgraph - the popular "a very" spam.
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Some of these are "legit" symbols in various languages, correct? For example Russian and I believe Hebrew use different symbols than English does.
Correct. That's why theymos wants to auto-replace them only on the English boards.
I'm not sure if that's going to help though, plagiarism by homograph attacks is much easier to detect than plagiarism through text spinners.
Is it also possible to auto-replace some other kind of strings like 'good project' etc.. to something like this: 'please ban me I'm a bounty hunter' ? Cheesy
Also, you have to wait, report badges were here first to implement Smiley

To be more serious:
These spammers who use these special characters don't think that mods will easily find those posts and will delete them? Their activity will decrease and they won't get paid... It's a kind of thing that can be spotted easily so it doesn't worth the effort, but this is just my opinion.... Do you think they don't read the Meta section at all?

legendary
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It's good that you guys created a list with them but to be realistic, I don't think theymos will fix any of these.

I think he has more important items on his agenda.

He said that if the things with the hompgraphs became more serious, he gonna implement this "fix". I think 80 hompgraphs per day is a serious thing
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It's good that you guys created a list with them but to be realistic, I don't think theymos will fix any of these.

I think he has more important items on his agenda.
legendary
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Some of these are "legit" symbols in various languages, correct? For example Russian and I believe Hebrew use different symbols than English does.
Correct. That's why theymos wants to auto-replace them only on the English boards.
I'm not sure if that's going to help though, plagiarism by homograph attacks is much easier to detect than plagiarism through text spinners.
legendary
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if i understood correctly they are mixing letter from different alphabets, this could be quite easy to spot by:

  • parsing the message
  • reporting the message
  • then check manually the message

I mean i don't see this going very far with this trick

I think Quickseller was hinting maybe on an automated program that can check in the different language sections for the valid and invalid characters.


What i meant was, if your message contains a small % of cyrillic caracthers, because some ordinary character was substituted to hide the plagiarism, that can quite easily spotted by checking the the text.
 
Regular expressions, if i remember correctly, can do that quite easily for other languages characters.



The easiest way to spot it is by searching for a single Cyrillic character, like for example "a", and excluding the local sections.
Then you get all the posts listed, often there are posts in Russian which I also report. I wish I had a report button from the search results but.. no.


Great, thanks everyone for the help, now we gonna sit and wait for reaction from the headquarters.

A bump to attract theymos' attention, I think I have to hire a bumping bot here Cheesy jk.
hero member
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if i understood correctly they are mixing letter from different alphabets, this could be quite easy to spot by:

  • parsing the message
  • reporting the message
  • then check manually the message

I mean i don't see this going very far with this trick

I think Quickseller was hinting maybe on an automated program that can check in the different language sections for the valid and invalid characters.


What i meant was, if your message contains a small % of cyrillic caracthers, because some ordinary character was substituted to hide the plagiarism, that can quite easily spotted by checking the the text.
 
Regular expressions, if i remember correctly, can do that quite easily for other languages characters.

legendary
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if i understood correctly they are mixing letter from different alphabets, this could be quite easy to spot by:

  • parsing the message
  • reporting the message
  • then check manually the message

I mean i don't see this going very far with this trick

I think Quickseller was hinting maybe on an automated program that can check in the different language sections for the valid and invalid characters.

Personally I favor posting unpleasant messages on ICOs that employ Bots and shills to promote their product. (Like I have done before)
I make them all different so I can't be reported for multi posts.

If others start doing that then eventually it will be pointless to use shills to promote ICOs.

I read the white paper. I’ve also stayed around after the countless delays and dates being changed

I think that the potential of the Кrios to take advantage of the computing power of the entire Internet destroys the fictitious belief that the cryptocurrency has no value, is a bubble or the latest fashion of technology.

Кrios provides new forms of financing to companies wishing to raise funds for their startup projects. The Кrios platform includes a centralized exchange of listings with decentralized interconnection.

This is a great project, bringing great benefits to the community. Not only that, it also brings new development for all of us. It is pride and happiness to be able to participate and I've known about ico for a long time, but this is probably the first time I've been so surprised to see the benefits and the advancement of your ideas.

Go for it guys this is a great project!! This is an amazing project, When I read your white sheet, I was totally delighted with how this would change our life. I think that it depends on each of us.

Just some of the fake comments by new shills posting on this thread.

A shill is a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others.




Is it wise to trust a ICO or coin that uses dishonesty to attract investors ?


hero member
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if i understood correctly they are mixing letter from different alphabets, this could be quite easy to spot by:

  • parsing the message
  • reporting the message
  • then check manually the message

I mean i don't see this going very far with this trick
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Some of these are "legit" symbols in various languages, correct? For example Russian and I believe Hebrew use different symbols than English does.

Maybe someone can compile a list of symbols used in each language in the local section (along with English), and those symbols can be all that is allowed to be used.

Edit : 🔑
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Characters that look the same in Latin and Cyrillic:

Code:
a, A, c, C, e, E, p, P, o, O, y, x, X, B, H, K, T, M


Latin

a  a  -->
A  A  -->
c  c  -->
C  C  -->
e  e -->
E  E  -->
K  K  -->
p  p -->
P  P  -->
o  o -->
O  O  -->
y  y -->
x  x -->
X  X  -->
B  B  -->
H  H  -->
T  T  -->
M  M  -->
....................
Cyrillic

a  &‌#1072;
A  &‌#1040;
c  &‌#1089;
C  &‌#1057;
e  &‌#1077;
E  &‌#1045;
К  &‌#1050;
p  &‌#1088;
P  &‌#1056;
o  &‌#1086;
O  &‌#1054;
y  &‌#1091;
x  &‌#1093;
X  &‌#1061;
B  &‌#1042;
H  &‌#1053;
T  &‌#1058;
M  &‌#1052;
....................





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