Topic: [FLAG] Against CoinPayCard.net (u=3521103) - page 2. (Read 393 times)

Everything on that site are actual prepaid cards so their list of merchants are more restricted than whatever debit card coinpaycard was selling.

Generally, I try to stick with sites that accept my prepaid cards because that makes life a lot easier for me (hooray for OpenAI).

No, Coindebit is still on pause, they refunded everything to customers, and they should restart service again but only for virtual cards I think.
I was talking about different service, but I don't want to advertise them here, I posted more about them in our local forum (big list of crypto cards).
Any service like this is always going to be risky for obvious reasons because regulators are changing rules and regulations all the time, but that is different from blatant scammers like CoinPayCard scam.

I am well aware of the fact that service like is not easy to operate because if it was, we would have dozens of them while situation at the moment is diametrically opposite and from what I know, there's not a single one that continuously works for a couple of years, as that's what is needed to call something reliable.

Now that you mentioned the one that exist and works fine, are you referring to Coindebit? Afaik they paused their service 6 months ago as they are changing card issuer and who knows when they come back, so they can't be called reliable either.

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I hate to be this guy, but I will say it again - I told you so 
Their scammer behavior was obvious from the start, with creating bunch of new topics, closing threads, avoiding to answer my questions and many other things that turned on my scam alert.
From latest information I received, we are probably dealing with some scammer from Nigeria, who created similar service for fiat payment scam.
I am almost sure he is going to recycle this scam and restart it with new name and design soon.

It's not a pipe dream, service like this is not easy to operate but it is possible, one similar service exist today and works fine (for now).
I am following services like this and I will post any updates when they happen.

I see their are available in forum and there are several scam accusations against them from few years ago.
Even if they are not scam, I think you can't use this cards on many website.

I think most of us who are doing this are not looking for anonymous cards per se but rather no-KYC debit cards.

I imagine that automated KYC verification software excludes thousands of people who otherwise have good IDs just because the software won't recognize them. For example, every wallet and service that's using Jumio for their KYC has a faulty provider because Jumio keeps rejecting all live photos of my (US) passport.

e.g. "Please make sure all four corners of the document are clearly visible and try again." (It's in a book form, goddammit, how can you expect to keep it open all the way without using your hands?)

So it could be that you actually have the selfie, the ID, the proof of address lined up but the automated KYC software doesn't accept one of them and you get messed up.

Flag supported. Sorry about you loosing the money.

If it's just prepaid that you want there are other places selling them too.

Also, and everyone keep this in mind. Even though there is no KYC they are not 'anonymous' do you really think a place doing this is going to not reveal their records to the authorities if they show up with a warrant? They know where you shopped and from there it's just another breadcrumb on the trail to you.

-Dave

I don't have much experience with VCC, so I have to ask, is it usual for such services to work in an anonymous mode?
I can't find any useful information about them on their website. Except for the email address and FB page, there are no other channels for communication.

Well, it seems that that idea that an API problem between their system and the bank existed, after all it did not exist. Because neither API exists...

It is regrettable how these guys continues to assemble these schemes, apparently credible to structure money.

Thanks to all who gave the alerts early on.

If they do, I'll probably be the first one... that is if they even have the time to even attend to their website  

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I just found that Ezzocard is selling "Violet" worldwide VISA prepaid cards, so these are a good alternative for people who got screwed by this site. Never had a problem with them.

Yeah, that review of yours made me hope that maybe they're different...

...And I see the account was online in Feb 22, so 2 days after your message being sent.
I'm sorry...  

Supported the flag and also added a red tag. This looks too much like and exit scam 

Its sucks that it ended up this way, but once again its proven what I realized some time ago that getting a legit and reliable no-KYC debit card is just a pipe dream as sooner or later they either stop working or they end up being a scam, like in this case.

Anyway, flag supported and at least you didn't lose too much.

Well, I wasn't imagining about writing this, but here we are.

On February 19, 2023, I deposited a total of $200 into my CoinPayCard account. This was combined with my already existing ~$33 account balance to give me about $233 in account balance.

Then, I loaded $220 to my card, and they charged a $10.9 card loading fee for that. My account balance was deducted to $3.something after that. Everything up to this point was normal.

What was not normal after that was the balance was never credited on the screen, in my card. I only saw the card balance I had before loading the card (which was $87.2, since then reduced by my spending to $72.1.

Now I had been through this scenario two other times, and in those previous two times, the CoinPayCard guy manually fixed it for me, but now it seems that he has disappeared which is not acceptable (considering that now other people are suffering from this problem).

I am especially pissed because this was supposed to be reserved for future subscription payments.

And this hurts extra hard for me because I had taken the risk to review their service (as I would any cards service as I've done previously) and found no discrepancies initially. Now there are claims that CoinPayCard is being ran by one person, which I would understand as I had ran some things myself before, but to abandon your users like this without even a warning of "we will be on vacation for x days" causes a lot of unnecessary trouble.

The transaction I used to deposit $200:

eff773b76fc1f9464fff222843052ba5203688505af51cab8fc4ada43ff0226e

Proof that I had $87.2 in my balance prior to this action:



The message I sent to Guido asking him to fix the balance in my account:


The account will remain flagged until my balance is made whole again (and of course, that of everyone else's as well). I am very displeased at what you have done to us. You coming with a promising service and you just let things blow up like this is not acceptable.

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