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Quote from: Peter Faith on October 16, 2023, 08:07:44 PM

This natural disaster is something that has become a yearly nightmare all around the world...
It displaces people... properties... businesses...lost of lives.etc
I think there should be an organization all around the world to tackle this to an extent..
What's your take on this?

I agree that natural disasters should be dealt with globally. While we may not be able to stop them from happening, we can work together to prepare for and respond to these events in a coordinated and effective manner. This includes implementing early warning systems, developing infrastructure to withstand extreme weather events, and providing resources and support to those affected by natural disasters. By coming together as a global community, we can minimize the impact of these events and support those in need.

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People suffer a lot because of nature disaster. Especially flood it's creat lot of problem for flood addected people. They do t get enough food pure water. They are homeless. Considering all of this the people who stuck in flood they suffer a lot. Many die in during flood. It's creat hell to the flood addected areas. Those who suffers in this situation they know what the badest situation the flood creates.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on November 23, 2023, 02:47:59 PM

Agencies supporting flood victims vary from country to country. There are always many of them non profit organizations working with either the government of a country, state or working with WHO directly to aid flood victims in that particular country. To know them is simple, just google "agencies that support flood victims in (country name)". You'll get a list of them, the locality they operate in the country and how they operate. Most of them ask for donations, so if you're looking for where to do some charity. I'm sure it'll be well appreciated by them.

It's encourages alot when we are seing non governmental organizations taking over the aid to help other people who were affected by the flood or any other form of natural disasters, when governments are even contributing less to what these NGOs are giving, this is out of their passion and a kind heartedness towards human race by considering other people who were being affected by creating rescue response to help them willingly.

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Quote from: Peter Faith on October 16, 2023, 08:07:44 PM

This natural disaster is something that has become a yearly nightmare all around the world...
It displaces people... properties... businesses...lost of lives.etc
I think there should be an organization all around the world to tackle this to an extent..
What's your take on this?

Just like you mentioned It , natural disaster is not something you can predict even the climatologist with their skills And knowledge can not predict It because it is something natural .its determinant is wholistic And non predictive because its only happens when the nature expects it .lets take a look At flood , earthquakes, hurricane winds And wave as a case study , these natural phenomenon occurs as a result of nature ! Some experts might try So hard to predict it But the outcome might disappoint them .

Insurance firms with her protective measures do not Insure any loss arising out of nature because it can not be predicted And Its effects is quite adverse on the society At Large .however most firms placed them under exclusion clauses or add a highier premium to accept the risk So to be safer from the unforeseen circumstances .

In addition, these natural disaster had caused more harm than Good to individuals or Society At large because it destroys property , kill citizens , causes havoc , Business disruption ,And many others . And At same times reduces the growth of the Economy And also causes effective loss of lives .

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Quote from: Peter Faith on October 16, 2023, 08:07:44 PM

This natural disaster is something that has become a yearly nightmare all around the world...
It displaces people... properties... businesses...lost of lives.etc
I think there should be an organization all around the world to tackle this to an extent..
What's your take on this?

I think this is a natural disaster that is beyond the human control. Flood is a disaster that is very dangerous and even before this is an even that has been taken place, and in these situation many properties have been destroyed, and life have lose. If this was something that could be controlled I don't think it will be still be occurring. Nobody loves natural disaster just that people can't just put the end of it occurrence that is why it keeps on happening all the time.

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Quote from: Peter Faith on October 16, 2023, 08:07:44 PM

This natural disaster is something that has become a yearly nightmare all around the world...
It displaces people... properties... businesses...lost of lives.etc
I think there should be an organization all around the world to tackle this to an extent..
What's your take on this?

when I comes to the issue of flood and natural disasters, I feel that our carelessness is me of the major reasons we are experiencing it year after year. In my environment that I'm sure I can relate easily with, people are daily enaginging in activities that will certainly lead to fluid inng or other disasters but are doing little I nothing to boosting their climatic condition. You see continuous cutting down of trees and continuous blockage of drainages in areas that have becomes prone to flooding and the people living in this environment are doing little or nothing to helping themselves and when the flooding finally hits down on them, they will now start crying and shouting for help.

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Quote from: Baki202 on November 24, 2023, 04:46:42 PM

Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on November 23, 2023, 02:47:59 PM

Agencies supporting flood victims vary from country to country. There are always many of them non profit organizations working with either the government of a country, state or working with WHO directly to aid flood victims in that particular country. To know them is simple, just google "agencies that support flood victims in (country name)". You'll get a list of them, the locality they operate in the country and how they operate. Most of them ask for donations, so if you're looking for where to do some charity. I'm sure it'll be well appreciated by them.

There are NGOs that take responsibility for victims of natural disasters and do everything in their power to support the victims by offering aid. Since most natural disasters are caused by human activity, if we can't find a way to reduce our carbon footprint, we will all suffer as a result. Therefore, I believe that the majority of these NGOs should start doing amazing things regarding the environment and people should start taking environmental issues seriously. And WHO has done a lot of good for a lot of victims, most of this countries it will be hard that you don't see their representatives their in a country and that is how it is suppose to be.

The change should start from ourselves. Practice the 5Rs everyday at least, if we can't help other people.
There are so many NGOs and other agencies already helping or assisting people but would be nice if we can also help in our own small ways.
Disasters will always be here. We can also prepare ourselves for this kind of crisis so we can survive when such disaster hits in our area.
Be mindful about what you do everyday. A simple segregation of your trash would be a nice initiative from your side.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on October 23, 2023, 04:20:46 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on October 22, 2023, 12:23:07 PM

Since floods have a natural tendency that makes them a yearly thing since the most are rainfalls that increase the water level, the government must take responsibility for building enough water banks that will take in all the water excess during the rainy season.

It is not as if there are no government agencies that has such responsibility to take care of flooding preventions but government is nonchalant about their agencies to be sure people assigned to manage them are true to it but firebrigade approach is used at the time of raining season and flooding but that doesn't go anywhere to prevent the harm because the preventive measures of clearence of debris in waterways before raining season is not followed .

I will still tie corruption to the reason that these agencies that sees to flooding don't do what they are suppose to do before the season, the government disburse monies required to these agencies but they usually don't get utilized just like other agencies whose assigned money end up in private account.

Government have indeed been none challant approach or high corruption that have pause limitation to the achievement of such projects, like some time in 2010-2012 here in my country, the then government awarded the contract to drain on of the lower river basin that serve as flood reserves for both my country and some other other neighbouring countries, but due to corruption, the project was not executed and fhat have resulted into continues flooding at each running season, so this is one of those the inability of the government or its agencies to provide guides and monitoring to the project delivery and this could have been possibly aided by corruption.

So sure we will continue to call on the government, since such a capital project, requires the presence of government because such a project may be more than just an individual of state since the flood cut across multiple locations.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on November 23, 2023, 02:47:59 PM

Agencies supporting flood victims vary from country to country. There are always many of them non profit organizations working with either the government of a country, state or working with WHO directly to aid flood victims in that particular country. To know them is simple, just google "agencies that support flood victims in (country name)". You'll get a list of them, the locality they operate in the country and how they operate. Most of them ask for donations, so if you're looking for where to do some charity. I'm sure it'll be well appreciated by them.

There are NGOs that take responsibility for victims of natural disasters and do everything in their power to support the victims by offering aid. Since most natural disasters are caused by human activity, if we can't find a way to reduce our carbon footprint, we will all suffer as a result. Therefore, I believe that the majority of these NGOs should start doing amazing things regarding the environment and people should start taking environmental issues seriously. And WHO has done a lot of good for a lot of victims, most of this countries it will be hard that you don't see their representatives their in a country and that is how it is suppose to be.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on November 22, 2023, 09:17:42 AM

Have we consider the rate of rainfall on seas and oceans, how it overflows the dams and nearby rivers that led to having an overflow of waters down to the community lived by people, there's a certain amount of water level every rivers must reach before it is declared disastrous for every nearby environment because if it breakout such could lead to flooding, most of the cases of serious flooding we had were as a result of higher and prolonged rainfalls, the solution is to always abstain from any riverine area in case of flood, those that will be firstly affected are these category of people living near the river.

@Dunamisx I grew up in Stilt Building in the Creek and river rine terrain. I am from the swampy area in Niger Delta so I know the different between Natural flood and man made flood. The natural flood that came to destroy things in Niger Delta was in 1990 and particularly in my swampy communities. Now the rain that falls in the sea and the oceans flow to the lagoons then from the lagoons it flows down to the rivers and other Deltas.

In my experience in this world about flooding, the sea and the oceans water that deposited to the River Niger and River Benue is seasonal and not every year but this recent occurrences are not from the natural occurrence but man made. There is a way the water in the dams can be controlled and it will not destroy communities again. I believed America have dams, and other advance countries have dam but they have not used it to destroy they local communities but Africa is different.

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Agencies supporting flood victims vary from country to country. There are always many of them non profit organizations working with either the government of a country, state or working with WHO directly to aid flood victims in that particular country. To know them is simple, just google "agencies that support flood victims in (country name)". You'll get a list of them, the locality they operate in the country and how they operate. Most of them ask for donations, so if you're looking for where to do some charity. I'm sure it'll be well appreciated by them.

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That's like a part of the real estate investor's rulebook that you don't buy land in areas that are endangered by floods and if you have to, you make sure the houses are built to sustain at least partial flooding.
When you own a land that can be flooded, you can make it safer by building raised house that would require the water to rise to a certain level before it gets flooded.

I live in an area relatively safe from flooding, but there's a guy who built a house at much lower elevation, on an old pond. He literally covered the pond with dirt and rocks to flatten it and built a house there. If we ever get flooded he's at the lowest point in the area and is going to be swimming long before the rest of us Cheesy

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Quote from: Peter Faith on October 16, 2023, 08:07:44 PM

This natural disaster is something that has become a yearly nightmare all around the world...
It displaces people... properties... businesses...lost of lives.etc
I think there should be an organization all around the world to tackle this to an extent..
What's your take on this?

Except for Red Cross, I'm not familiar with the names of any other humanitarian organizations that assists in natural and manmade disasters, but I know that we have many of them. We have many NGOs and Charity organizations that comes to the aid of victims of natural disasters like flood. Nobody can cheat or challenge nature, when it comes with disasters like flood, volcanoes, earthquakes and the rest, people living in those areas becomes vulnerable with the destructions that cones with them. So in these cases the victims must need help, and these many humanitarian organizations are available to give the needed care. I believe that these organizations get their fundings from philanthropists, governments and other well meaning organizations.

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Every government/ state has its natural disaster unit and having one unit for the whole world is non ineffective compared to individual state units. Natural disasters are something that is inevitable and they may happen at any time/anywhere for thousands of different reasons so loss of property and lives can't be avoided from such scenarios.

As an individual, if you are living in a range where natural disasters are more likely to happen then start preparing life to minimize its risk for example Japan is an earthquake-prone region so they are giving reliable structural designs to their infrastructure to hold up to certain level and also keep the people educated what to do at that situation.

Also, they have a notification/prediction system that will alert all the people if there is such an incident.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 20, 2023, 11:32:55 AM

Quote from: Mate2237 on November 20, 2023, 11:23:45 AM

My brother in my location we live in an island. The sea level of the water is higher than the land so whenever the sea river is rising then most of the houses in the area or the state will be submerged and there is no model to address this issues and as you said, the corrupt leaders or contractors siphon the money for personal use. And from various discussions we have engaged in the community level, we came to discover that the government make put a stop to that once and for all if they really want to do work for the people in their territories.

And one of the simplest way is that, this yearly flood that occurring is a fresh water and not a salt water and salt water comes from the sea and fresh water and salt water can not live in one place so the modality we set to douse this problem if the government can do it is to channel very big pipes from different Creeks to the sea and whenever the flood comes, the pipes will drain the water the sea and the problem of flooding will be a story of the past. But the leaders are using this flooding to make money so they won't let it go.

Really do you think rechaneling the pipes to the sea will solve the problem and not result in another bigger one for those who are living in other part is of the country which shares the same rivers and sea connection and that way they may become victims of a more drastic flood situation in a short time from now, I still remember when 2010 the president approves the digging of the lower venue river bank but the project abounded suddenly after the launch.

So if the government ever want to do something incredible to solve this situation it will be to carry out a major overhaul of the river base and make our banks tccommodate more water and proper channelling of water in the flood-prone areas

In centuries back that want even the American government told Nigeria to do. They told Nigerian government to do two things which Nigerian government refused to do because of the cost. The first thing they (USA) told Nigeria government was to create a dam which can accommodate the dam water from Cameron whenever they they (Cameron) open theirs. But Nigerian government refused to do it because of corruption and the second thing they told us to do was the rechannelling of the water to the sea with pipes that very big as 50 to 100 feets. But they refused to do that too and I believe if these structures are put in place, flood will be a thing of the past in the country but they will not do it because they are using the flood to make money internationally.

The digging or dredging the rivers and river banks will never solve the problem. How many River have they digged and dredged in my area that flood is still affect us in the Niger Delta. Nigerian government know what to do but they will not do it because of selfish interest.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 22, 2023, 09:42:13 AM

Quote from: Dunamisx on November 22, 2023, 09:17:42 AM

Have we consider the rate of rainfall on seas and oceans, how it overflows the dams and nearby rivers that led to having an overflow of waters down to the community lived by people, there's a certain amount of water level every rivers must reach before it is declared disastrous for every nearby environment because if it breakout such could lead to flooding, most of the cases of serious flooding we had were as a result of higher and prolonged rainfalls, the solution is to always abstain from any riverine area in case of flood, those that will be firstly affected are these category of people living near the river.

Well abstaining from river banks area may be a sure solution as an individual precaution measures, but then also we have to mention some vital aspect and features that we need to consider before diving into such discussion and how their effect our overall well being and the community at large.

But at the government level, the best possible measure isnro did our water ways and make room for more water banks which will aid in absorbing the water and making a proper dischargement possibilities.

Talking about government levels, they can try their own best to make sure that every water channels to the rivers are appropriately monitored accordingly, this includes the outlets, water level indicators, exit drainages and every other means that they can use to absorb water away from the river in case of getting over flooded, but we should also know that government can only try their efforts maybe by building dams, reservoirs and other control mechanism, but they may not be hundred percent effective in control against the flooding event if the worst should happen through heavy downpour.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on November 22, 2023, 09:17:42 AM

Have we consider the rate of rainfall on seas and oceans, how it overflows the dams and nearby rivers that led to having an overflow of waters down to the community lived by people, there's a certain amount of water level every rivers must reach before it is declared disastrous for every nearby environment because if it breakout such could lead to flooding, most of the cases of serious flooding we had were as a result of higher and prolonged rainfalls, the solution is to always abstain from any riverine area in case of flood, those that will be firstly affected are these category of people living near the river.

Well abstaining from river banks area may be a sure solution as an individual precaution measures, but then also we have to mention some vital aspect and features that we need to consider before diving into such discussion and how their effect our overall well being and the community at large.

But at the government level, the best possible measure isnro did our water ways and make room for more water banks which will aid in absorbing the water and making a proper dischargement possibilities.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 20, 2023, 11:32:55 AM

Quote from: Mate2237 on November 20, 2023, 11:23:45 AM

My brother in my location we live in an island. The sea level of the water is higher than the land so whenever the sea river is rising then most of the houses in the area or the state will be submerged and there is no model to address this issues and as you said, the corrupt leaders or contractors siphon the money for personal use. And from various discussions we have engaged in the community level, we came to discover that the government make put a stop to that once and for all if they really want to do work for the people in their territories.

And one of the simplest way is that, this yearly flood that occurring is a fresh water and not a salt water and salt water comes from the sea and fresh water and salt water can not live in one place so the modality we set to douse this problem if the government can do it is to channel very big pipes from different Creeks to the sea and whenever the flood comes, the pipes will drain the water the sea and the problem of flooding will be a story of the past. But the leaders are using this flooding to make money so they won't let it go.

Really do you think rechaneling the pipes to the sea will solve the problem and not result in another bigger one for those who are living in other part is of the country which shares the same rivers and sea connection and that way they may become victims of a more drastic flood situation in a short time from now, I still remember when 2010 the president approves the digging of the lower venue river bank but the project abounded suddenly after the launch.

So if the government ever want to do something incredible to solve this situation it will be to carry out a major overhaul of the river base and make our banks tccommodate more water and proper channelling of water in the flood-prone areas

Have we consider the rate of rainfall on seas and oceans, how it overflows the dams and nearby rivers that led to having an overflow of waters down to the community lived by people, there's a certain amount of water level every rivers must reach before it is declared disastrous for every nearby environment because if it breakout such could lead to flooding, most of the cases of serious flooding we had were as a result of higher and prolonged rainfalls, the solution is to always abstain from any riverine area in case of flood, those that will be firstly affected are these category of people living near the river.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on November 20, 2023, 11:23:45 AM

My brother in my location we live in an island. The sea level of the water is higher than the land so whenever the sea river is rising then most of the houses in the area or the state will be submerged and there is no model to address this issues and as you said, the corrupt leaders or contractors siphon the money for personal use. And from various discussions we have engaged in the community level, we came to discover that the government make put a stop to that once and for all if they really want to do work for the people in their territories.

And one of the simplest way is that, this yearly flood that occurring is a fresh water and not a salt water and salt water comes from the sea and fresh water and salt water can not live in one place so the modality we set to douse this problem if the government can do it is to channel very big pipes from different Creeks to the sea and whenever the flood comes, the pipes will drain the water the sea and the problem of flooding will be a story of the past. But the leaders are using this flooding to make money so they won't let it go.

Really do you think rechaneling the pipes to the sea will solve the problem and not result in another bigger one for those who are living in other part is of the country which shares the same rivers and sea connection and that way they may become victims of a more drastic flood situation in a short time from now, I still remember when 2010 the president approves the digging of the lower venue river bank but the project abounded suddenly after the launch.

So if the government ever want to do something incredible to solve this situation it will be to carry out a major overhaul of the river base and make our banks tccommodate more water and proper channelling of water in the flood-prone areas

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 20, 2023, 08:35:27 AM

Quote from: Peter Faith on October 16, 2023, 08:07:44 PM

This natural disaster is something that has become a yearly nightmare all around the world...
It displaces people... properties... businesses...lost of lives. etc
I think there should be an organization all around the world to tackle this to an extent.
What's your take on this?

In my country, we have some region where flood is a yearly occurrence for them, and the government have set up various committees to checkmate the activities of the waterways and where there are blockages, but due to the corruption in the system, this has made it impossible to find a lasting solution thlonthebissue of flood and another natural disaster.

So for sure, even though flood is a natural disaster, but it can still be controlled or managed.

My brother in my location we live in an island. The sea level of the water is higher than the land so whenever the sea river is rising then most of the houses in the area or the state will be submerged and there is no model to address this issues and as you said, the corrupt leaders or contractors siphon the money for personal use. And from various discussions we have engaged in the community level, we came to discover that the government make put a stop to that once and for all if they really want to do work for the people in their territories.

And one of the simplest way is that, this yearly flood that occurring is a fresh water and not a salt water and salt water comes from the sea and fresh water and salt water can not live in one place so the modality we set to douse this problem if the government can do it is to channel very big pipes from different Creeks to the sea and whenever the flood comes, the pipes will drain the water the sea and the problem of flooding will be a story of the past. But the leaders are using this flooding to make money so they won't let it go.

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