Topic: █ ▌► Foklers.com ║▌Massively-Multiplayer realtime BTC games (NOT CASINO) █║▌ ◄ █ - page 4. (Read 17090 times)

So fake? Anyway soon I will be ready with a collection of like 100pictures that show how unfair is your game and hopefully you will reconsider the way that game goes.

Hello!
I expect the withdrawal button to work correctly tomorrow.
I do not think queue might be such a problem, since there are 225 cells and you use only 15 - though players number is about 25. You have about 20 minutes to make your bet, and you use only last 30 seconds.
Anyway, we plan to implement a new game, a bit later though. Here I explained reasons and pointed some terms  - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13463679

Hi there!
Neither true not fake, these numbers set as default, they changes as soon as the page completely loaded.
Currently there are 30832 games played, and 24.28394608 btc changed their owners.
Anyway, thank you for your interest, we'll see if we can display these numbers before sending page to the viewer.

the main page says.. Total games played as 1 million exactly
And total btc payed out as 100 btc exactly..these stats are true or fake?

Hello!
On the game clash-of-cash queue 15, becomes impossible to properly play. All players are asked to create new games with high stakes. Change the settings  for withdrawal.
Thank you.

just another warning about this game:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/anhg9k80wmam5ub/well%20fuck.png?dl=0

of course both foklers exploded after just a minute...
this game is made unfair and they will not admit it!


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https://www.dropbox.com/s/79vjrhanr07asfw/JOKEEEE.png?dl=0


to the collection...

then you should have stopped the games/autions.. because it is almost impossible to to something

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Hi Stanly!
Thank you for the proposition!
Surely, we are going to add a game or few with higher bets, when there are more people (say, like in fruits now).

Why?
Basically, when we planned the game, we balanced it so it can still be profitable even when all the 225 cells are filled up with real people (about 300-400 will be burned, though - that's the game). We've run thousands of tests to be sure.
Currently, there are about 16 players in browsers - and nearly all of them tend to get into the very top row - 15 cells is not enough, surely, for 15 players + bot. Of course, there is mess and panic at that top row - and about 200 cells, some of which are quite safe, still unused. If you examine fruits, you'll see that about 50-60 players successfully finish the game - it means that they have enough space for maneuver, using left and right borders, corners, etc.
The main mathematical thought here - the more players participate game, the more money is in the game, and the more profit a skilful player can get.
Also, people are afraid to risk 100k, they don't like to risk 25K as well at the moment, so currently we concentrate on increasing players amount, to make game more and more exiting and profitable - and as soon as the "browsers" are as popular as fruits, we'll consider next step.

Anyway, we are ready to consider all the propositions, please, feel free to share your thoughts and ideas - experienced players' opinion is valuable for us.

What is goin on ?

Hello, Foklers.com!
We are (players, mostly from browsers ) have propose for your site. If its posible to make one or maybe two more gams with foklers, but with higher value.
For example, min. fokler cost 100 000 satoshes  and another game min. fokler cost 1 000 000 satoshes.
Its because people come more and more every day. Its good! But its not enough space for everyone on the just 2 games.
I hope you are understanding us.
Thank you!

Hi!

We've improved the auction: Now you don't have to wait for minutes!
Countdown now is 15 seconds for start bets, 30 seconds for more serious bets, etc.
If game was dynamic (more than 5 people participated), next one starts in 15 seconds, not 5 minutes.

Come and get your money!

Just deposited and tried your site, interface is neat and clean, i also won an auction
my username there is dzlatan

Seems like a good idea for now. Since the site is so new the lower playing amounts will help get more players and make the clash of cash more popular also because right now it seems everyone is playing free for all version. Ill give it a shot later today, see if i can win back what i lost yesterday

Hi there!

I'd like to share some good news: We've made Clash of Cash game more affordable: now the minimal bet is the same that maximum one in fruits!

Prices are:

0.00025 - 1 life
0.00175 - 2 lives
0.00750 - 3 lives

Percentage is the same as in fruits - so risk less, gain more )
Try it now, it is funny and profitable!





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Thanks!

Thank you!

Have you considered the fact that the bot doesn't think at all? He just throws his fokler as scheduled, whatever situation is at the field, therefore he burns much more than real players. Moreover, if bot survives, he gets less money.
Also, it invests totally about 2M in the game, and about 30% of this sum goes to prize bank - the more you risk the more you can get from it (since you get more than bots) - isn't it the gambling?

Actually, we expect people to play this game, like they do at fruits, so bot is supposed to be a kind of bonus - not the main source of money, but a way to raise a bit if you happen to play alone.
However, we've tried your idea several times at test server and it turned out, that the game becomes unstable - sometimes bot do not burn or burn not that much, and sometimes it burns completely. Therefore, sometimes nobody will clash for cash, and sometimes where may be too many people to rob the bot, so everyone will get insignificant amount. 

нeт. я cчитaю этo кpaйнe нecпpaвeдливым. пoтoмy чтo, я cтaвлю 1 cтaвкy нa 100 000 caтoшeй, a бoт cтaвит тaкиe жe 4 cтaвки пo 25 000. тaким oбpaзoм y бoтa шaнcoв выжить бoльшe y 4 paзa. этo являeтcя нecпpaвeдливым. в тaкoм cлyчae, я бы пocoвeтoвaл paвныe ycлoвия: пycть cтaвoк бyдeт нeмнoгo мeньшe, нo пycть oни бyдyт пo 100 000, кaк и cтaвки ocтaльныx игpoкoв. чтoбы вce были в aбcoлютнo oдинaкoвыx ycлoвияx. пoтoмy чтo, пpи тaкoм pacклaдe, y бoтa нaмнoгo бoльшe шaнcoв кaк нe cгopeть.  вы paнee дeлaли бoльшe cтaвoк бoтa пo 100 000, и игpa былa бoлee динaмичнoй. пycть oнa бyдeт тaкaя жe, кaк вы дeлaли paнee. a нe тaкaя кaк вы cдeлaли ceйчac.в игpe минимaльнaя cтaвкa 100 000 caтoшeй, тaк пycть oнa бyдeт минимaльнoй и для бoтa 100 000 caтoшeй. чтo cкaжитe ?

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no. I think this is extremely unfair. because I put 1 bet per 100 000 Satoshi, and the bot puts the same 4 bets to 25 000. thus the bot likely to survive more than 4 times. this is unfair. in that case, I would advise equal conditions: the rates may be a bit less, but let them be the 100,000, and as the stakes of other players. all were in absolutely equal conditions. because, in this scenario, the bot is much more likely as not to burn.. in the game the minimum bet is 100,000 Satoshi, so let it be minimum for the bot 100 000 Satoshi
you've done more bets bot 100,000, and the game was more dynamic. let it be the same as you did earlier. and not like you did now. what do you say ?

Hi there!

Firstly, let me explain how mathematics works here to prove things are fair:
Every player (including bot) gets profit accordingly to invested (survived) sum: the more you invest the more you get and vice versa.
Therefore, you, invested 100K, get 4 times more than a bot, which invested 25K.

Example:
You invested 100K, another guy invested 100K and a bot invested 25K.
Game bank now is 225K.
Another guy burned, so 100K went to prise bank.
At the end of the game you get your 100K back, bot gets his 25K back. 100K are in prise bank.
15% is taken from prise bank as a tax and referral bonus, so prise bank is 85K.
Than we calculate the sum you get for every invested satoshi: prize_bank/invested_sum => 85000/(100K + 25K) = 0.68 satoshi you get for every invested satoshi.
You invested 100K - therefore you'll get 0.68*100000 = 68000
Bot invested 25K - he'll get 0.68*25000 = 17000
So,
you get back 168000 satoshi
bot gets back 42000 satoshi

Therefore, you get as many as 4 bots do.
4 bots who invest 25K get back as 1 bot which invested 100K (or a real player).
Currently, bot throws 25K every 15 seconds, which is equal 100K per minute, similar to fruits.

We just wanted to make the game more dynamic, allowing bot to throw more frequently.

Initially we made bot throwing 100K rarely and faced the situation when not a bot burned for 5 minutes or so, and all the newly players, who visited clash-of-cash, saw "buy fokler for 100 000 and get 100 000 back", so they just left. That's why we made bot to throw faster (for it could burn), but with less amount.
I just explain reasons why we made such decision, doesn't want to say they are ideal or final, etc.

Therefore, we highly interested in your opinion - what could you advise us to make game more interesting or more understandable? 

dear administration! you are not honestly treat customers and players!!! in the game "clash-of-cash" minimum rate of 100,000 Satoshi, while the bot puts at 25 000 Satoshi. why is it so ? and all this, why are bots in two games is not equal to the number