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Quote from: Synchronice on December 04, 2022, 07:43:49 AM

Photo was taken some days ago but prices are still nearly the same. So, who was saying that Germans wouldn't be able to buy a fuel for cars? Cheesy

Impossible!
We were assured by the greatest specialist in geopolitics, economics, oil trading, life after death, and cosmic quantic dimensional inversions that the oil barrel will hit $300 and that all Europeans will be driving donkey carts cause we won't be affording gas.
And the most ironic part is that damn, I wish some would not afford them because traffic has become impossible around here, for the first time I actually had to wait in the queue at the first highway entrance and stand in line for 10 mins at the barrier cause the shopping mall was full and there was no parking space available. So, some should really switch to donkeys because this keeps getting worse and worse and during the Christmas madness the whole city will be one huge parking lot.

Quote from: Lucius on December 06, 2022, 10:55:17 AM

In fact, looking at the statistics in the last three months, fuel prices are lower by almost 14% on average, and food prices have also started to fall slightly. Some will say that this is because consumption has decreased, and there is some truth in that, but that is certainly not the only reason.

There are two other reasons
- oil price is crashing, WTI is down to $72 and Brent to $78
- the euro has recovered against the USD, so if oil was 94 euros a month ago, it's just 74 euros per barrel, -20%
And there is also less demand of course, the agricultural work is done, people are not traveling long distances anymore and just roaming around the cities so it was expected.

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Quote from: Cryptock on December 05, 2022, 04:27:29 PM

everywhere in the world - the petrol price has increased

I will focus only on the EU, since this topic is actually about Germany, so I want to show that fuel prices are actually falling, and here is this graph showing fuel prices in Germany and France in the current year.

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In fact, looking at the statistics in the last three months, fuel prices are lower by almost 14% on average, and food prices have also started to fall slightly. Some will say that this is because consumption has decreased, and there is some truth in that, but that is certainly not the only reason.

For those who want to see the data, and not to guess that fuel is going up, at least as far as the EU is concerned -> https://www.fuel-prices.eu/

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Quote from: Synchronice on December 04, 2022, 07:43:49 AM

Photo was taken some days ago but prices are still nearly the same. So, who was saying that Germans wouldn't be able to buy a fuel for cars? Cheesy

P.S. Season - winter, Month - December.

everywhere in the world - the petrol price has increased
the food and daily useful item prices are unaffordable now - the business are collapsing and there is so much noise from the people about the inflation and gov not being able to provide them basic necessity

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Photo was taken some days ago but prices are still nearly the same. So, who was saying that Germans wouldn't be able to buy a fuel for cars? Cheesy

P.S. Season - winter, Month - December.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 03, 2022, 10:13:12 PM

There is no guarantee that Turkey will be having enough gas for their own usage. There are two gas pipelines running from Russia (Blue Stream and Turkstream), and there is another pipeline from Azerbaijan. I am not sure, but there seems to be a gas pipeline from Iran as well. But the supplies does not cover the total demand, and therefore apart from the pipeline gas, Turkey usually imports LNG as well. Total consumption is around 60 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year, and around 40% of that is made up of LNG (mostly from the US).

Türkiye has no problem in finding resources. Their commercial relations with both Eastern and Western countries are very good. But the real problem is the prices. It's difficult to access everything while the purchasing power of the people decreases. There are goods in the market, but there is no money to buy that goods. Everyone is borrowing, the amount of credit is increasing day by day. The future is mortgaged to save the present.
That's why I said Germany's situation is good. People can still live humanely. Accessing basic consumer goods is not difficult. They will survive this winter by saving a little, but they won't face such a problem in the following years. Because they don't have structural problems like we do.

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Quote from: tygeade on November 05, 2022, 10:19:50 AM

The problem is they have been so awesome for decades that even slight bit of discomfort sounds like agony to them, while people who had worse inflation even on their best year, are facing something that is acceptable to them because they grew accustomed to it.

I am not a German (not living there either) but since I have close family members there and visiting them few times per year, I met my share of Germans and I have to say that they are mostly financially responsible and hardworking people. So when you are living in one of the most developed countries in the world, having a well paid job and tend to save the money (and Germans do like to save) when/if shit hits the fan you will adjust much easier than someone already barely surviving on his salary and without safety cushion.

But you are right about something though, people in countries like Russia are used to shitty standard of living and its beyond me how country with such natural resources can have lower standard of living than some of the poorest EU countries (for example Croatia where I am from), and people there being ok with it.

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Quote from: tygeade on November 05, 2022, 10:19:50 AM

The problem is they have been so awesome for decades that even slight bit of discomfort sounds like agony to them, while people who had worse inflation even on their best year, are facing something that is acceptable to them because they grew accustomed to it.

Bruh, nobody screams in agony here!
The only ones that claim destruction, death, recession, and that the whole country is doomed are the ones that never set foot in Germany in their lifetime. Just look at the profiles of those that scream the economy is dead, most of them are from Russia, Asia, and Africa, people in Europe are not hiding in their bunkers and are not preparing for an iceage.

Read the topic and see how everyone is surprised that the prices are nearly the same as in their countries while the wages are 10 times higher, that the stores are full, all those things are of no surprise to us, people that actually live in Europe. But brainwashed propaganda zealots are having heat attacks seeing how everything still works here.

Quote from: zasad@ on November 03, 2022, 05:53:48 AM

In Russia, the living wage for a pensioner is more than 200 euros, and for an able-bodied person about 300 euros.
In Russia, food is cheaper, and it is very hard to live on this money.

So you're telling me that in the richest country in the world or whatever you called Russia, the average monthly pension will be not enough to buy one Milka Chocolate a day?
And you guys still consider yourself a global superpower and a model of how a country should work?

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 03, 2022, 03:47:27 AM

I think it's not just talking about Germany or some other countries in Europe because of the inflation rate and the food crisis all over the world many countries are facing problems with food prices and the increasing the food price all over the world is clear these days, in many undeveloped countries they even have deeper and worst problems with food prices but even a county like Germany is not really far from this crisis and there you see how the prices are increasing because of this crisis in all over the world.

Germany could be seen one of the strongest economies of the world, but that doesn't mean that they have to be doing better than everyone else, or even do good. While everyone else doing worse, they are doing worse too but a bit better worse so to speak. Think about it this way, if USA has 10% inflation and Germany has 8% inflation that’s "better", but it's still bad for Germans. That’s the situation we have right now, but to be fair they are still doing amazingly.

The problem is they have been so awesome for decades that even slight bit of discomfort sounds like agony to them, while people who had worse inflation even on their best year, are facing something that is acceptable to them because they grew accustomed to it.

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Quote from: ingiltere on November 03, 2022, 04:49:15 PM

The prices didn't seem high to me at all. Germany's inflation is very limited. Despite this, Germans move to Türkiye to spend the winter season. Because this is much cheaper than them. Those who earn Euros because of the exchange rate can live very comfortably here. Whoever earns Turkish lira is crushed by the highest inflation in the world. If this is the rise of gas prices in Germany, you don't need to complain. You're already using everything so cheap.

There is no guarantee that Turkey will be having enough gas for their own usage. There are two gas pipelines running from Russia (Blue Stream and Turkstream), and there is another pipeline from Azerbaijan. I am not sure, but there seems to be a gas pipeline from Iran as well. But the supplies does not cover the total demand, and therefore apart from the pipeline gas, Turkey usually imports LNG as well. Total consumption is around 60 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year, and around 40% of that is made up of LNG (mostly from the US).

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The prices didn't seem high to me at all. Germany's inflation is very limited. Despite this, Germans move to Türkiye to spend the winter season. Because this is much cheaper than them. Those who earn Euros because of the exchange rate can live very comfortably here. Whoever earns Turkish lira is crushed by the highest inflation in the world. If this is the rise of gas prices in Germany, you don't need to complain. You're already using everything so cheap.

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This is not happening only in Germany but also other countries of the world. Things are getting bad everyday and the government will not out heads together to settle this that had been hitting each and every countries. Food stuffs are getting hike everyday so we need to be prepared because this is not happening only in Germany but almost every part of the world. This will not stop soon so we just have to get something doing so that we will be able afford our daily need and bills.

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This is not just limited to Germany but also all over the world as one major thing that affects the poor, basically in my country within my state precisely food has been one major problem affecting people around barely they feeds on three square meal a day, the poor can't afford to buy food stuff for feeding which basically includes; Rice, Beans, Onion, Red Meat, cooking Oil and many more, or even to eat at the restaurant you spend at least $1 to $5 to my local currency is very huge, which a dollar is about 1 equal to 867 NGN in Binance p2p currently, and our Government are not really helping matters rather than focusing on their political ambition spending money for their campaign giveaway cars to their supporters while the poor keeps dying.

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Quote from: DrBeer on October 28, 2022, 06:44:14 AM

Quote from: be.open on October 26, 2022, 03:20:55 AM

ps Is there anyone here from the Baltics or Greece? Tell me if everything is fine with the prices in supermarkets.

Everything is extremely simple - a link to the price list in the ordinary Estonian network of Maxim
https://www.maxima.ee/uploads/releases/pdf/Nr;43(25.10-31.10.2022)-9626.pdf

In doing so, we take into account:
- The MINIMUM salary is 654 euros per month, from January 1, 2023 it will increase by 11% and will be 725. Once again, this is the MINIMUM salary.
- The average gross salary in Estonia in December 2021 is €1,756 and net (after taxes) €1,392.45.
- As of 2022, the average state old-age pension in Estonia is 595 euros per month.
- From June 1, 2022, the living wage for a single person or the first family member is 200 euros per month.

And there is no oil, no gas, no "50% of the world's resources"

In Russia, the living wage for a pensioner is more than 200 euros, and for an able-bodied person about 300 euros.
In Russia, food is cheaper, and it is very hard to live on this money.
How much do communal utilities for an apartment cost in Estonia?

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I think it's not just talking about Germany or some other countries in Europe because of the inflation rate and the food crisis all over the world many countries are facing problems with food prices and the increasing the food price all over the world is clear these days, in many undeveloped countries they even have deeper and worst problems with food prices but even a county like Germany is not really far from this crisis and there you see how the prices are increasing because of this crisis in all over the world.

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Quote from: be.open on October 26, 2022, 03:20:55 AM

ps Is there anyone here from the Baltics or Greece? Tell me if everything is fine with the prices in supermarkets.

Everything is extremely simple - a link to the price list in the ordinary Estonian network of Maxim
https://www.maxima.ee/uploads/releases/pdf/Nr;43(25.10-31.10.2022)-9626.pdf

In doing so, we take into account:
- The MINIMUM salary is 654 euros per month, from January 1, 2023 it will increase by 11% and will be 725. Once again, this is the MINIMUM salary.
- The average gross salary in Estonia in December 2021 is €1,756 and net (after taxes) €1,392.45.
- As of 2022, the average state old-age pension in Estonia is 595 euros per month.
- From June 1, 2022, the living wage for a single person or the first family member is 200 euros per month.

And there is no oil, no gas, no "50% of the world's resources"

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I workout and mainly I consume foods high in protein and low in carb/fat, to say shortly. This kind of food is mostly expensive compared to the what average person eats, so I wanna share with you what I bought for 19.32 Euro.

P.S. One high protein chocolate pudding is missing in the picture Cheesy

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Germany is the only country in Europe where prices in grocery stores are not divided by a percentage called 'Value Added Tax' or 'VAT'.

Where did you get this idea from?
There is no country in Europe without VAT and there is no country in EU that do so, there is an EU directive that puts limits to both how low and how high this can go in order to harmonize taxes.
Germany has a standard 19% VAT and a 9% VAT for foodstuff.
Also, prices are not "divided" by VAT anywhere, it's value added tax, the name spells it for you.

Quote from: bitgolden on October 27, 2022, 03:53:01 PM

The funny thing about Germany is that they are having one of the better inflation problems compared to other nations, there are nations with 50%+ inflation and they are not overreacting this much.

Actually, the ones overreacting are the ones outside Germany and Europe who are already picturing Europeans freezing to death, starving with no food, with their economies crushing, and so on and on. In reality, one should watch live cams from the summer when the beaches were full, hotels, highways, cinemas, malls, pubs, and clubs were full, there are 100x times more Russians overreacting about this than Europeans.

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Quote from: uneng on October 26, 2022, 12:18:39 PM

Quote from: kro55 on October 26, 2022, 12:51:52 AM

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Yes, purchasing power is decreasing so overwhelmingly these days. This phenomenon is more evident than ever and even the first world countries can't escape this sad reality. What I don't understand very well is why products like oil are so expensive here in my country, because the territory is vast and the country is known for feeding the world through food exportation of every kinds. Theoretically there should be surplus of production for us here, consequently leading to cheaper prices, but that is not what happens for real. That is why I concluded expensive prices must be due to producers' greediness.

Manufacturers are also human and greed always exists in us, can't blame them, benefits must always come first in business. If we were in their position, I believe we would do the same. Similar to oil, OPEC+ has also announced production cuts to keep oil prices high even though they are very rich countries compared to other countries. But it's a business opportunity they won't easily pass up.

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Quote from: kro55 on October 26, 2022, 12:51:52 AM

You can also buy cooking oil, that's happiness, in the countryside where I live now many families have to use lard to replace cooking oil. There's much worse that we don't know because we've never heard of it.

Personally I've never used lard, but I know some people here who use it in a daily basis and recommend more than cooking oil. They also claim it is more healthy and grant the food more flavour. Interesting that lard here is more expensive than cooking oil. 1 kilogram is about 3,70$ to 5$ (dollar currency).

In my country it is the opposite, wealthy families will use vegetable oil instead of lard because it is good for health. Lard is more difficult to store and most pork is considered a cheaper commodity than other foods.

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Quote from: Synchronice on October 26, 2022, 02:58:50 AM

Petrol and Diesel prices in Germany as of yesterday:

Is there any product in the German supermarkets you want to know the price of? Or any other thing? Because some people here think that Germany is fucked and there is no way to escape and we are all gonna freeze to death, so the situation isn't like that and quality of life here is still high

If you live close to the Polish border you can get your gas from your neighbor. They have it much cheaper so it might be worth a trip. They have it for 1.4 EUR and the current average in Germany is 1.9 EUR.

The problem with gas is that the prices were growing fast even before the war and due to virus lockdowns in 2021 that lowered the demand the prices should've went down but they didn't.
The oil market is greatly manipulated. On one hand you have the Saudis that want to make the most money even if it means starving some countries and on the other the green lobby that wants the world to drive their expensive electric cars.

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It’s going to be a big discussion with absolutely no end to a fairly good result, it's just a bit of a time required deal and when enough time passes we are going to see this problem solved too. The problem we have is not oil, it's not food, it's not anything else, it's not being ready for these type of things.

There is no a single country in the world that is self-sufficient in everything, and when something happens they are left with a chaos and a problem and they don't know what to do and do not have an alternative to put forth right away. This is why anytime any problem happens, we just need to wait for governments to fix it, that’s the only solution we have and we have nothing else we can do.

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