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legendary
Activity: 1286
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July 31, 2012, 06:24:53 AM
чё oн тaк yцeпилcя зa 47 btc, нaвepнякa yжe пpoпил и oтдaвaть нeчeгo )
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 502
July 29, 2012, 10:53:58 AM
Can you say douch bag?
sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
July 29, 2012, 03:18:18 AM
On your service I received 1,5 BTC in day. 1,5*0,2=0,3 BTC in day. 47/0,3=157 days. About 5 months. And considering that in a way new BFL that quicker than 5 months.
Or you accept option of others more? Which simply keep silent!

So wat I gathered is that thieftaly B took the BTC he stole from Inaba and bought himself a BFL FPGA?
sr. member
Activity: 306
Merit: 257
July 29, 2012, 12:37:36 AM
Who needs Shakespeare, if we have bitcoin boards?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Bitcoin today is what the internet was in 1998.
July 28, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
#99
No offense, but I think asdlsd and Nilarium are sockpuppets (actually MVitaliyB).
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 502
July 27, 2012, 12:14:49 PM
#98
Only criminals like to turn simple issues into overthought processes.
Not "overthought", just carefully and precisely reasoned. The issue wasn't as simple as you're pretending it was, and precision is important when reasoning about crimes, particularly when it relates to the identity of the victim. Anyway, that's a rather serious charge to be throwing around so freely. What crime are you accusing me of, exactly? For that matter, you also accused participants in the derivatives market of criminal intent for no better reason than your own failure to understand it. Perhaps the problem isn't with me or with them, but rather with you.

For the patience-impaired, here's the short version: Yes, a crime was committed. The victim of the crime was the property owner--the bank--not the account holder who was impersonated. The crime was fraud, possibly compounded with theft, but there wasn't enough detail in the original story to be sure of the theft.

I only quoted your response as part of the discussion follow up, you had the last bit to add and I added on top of that.

I didnt accuse you of anything, the accused is MVitaliyB and my quote is related to this whole thread surrounding his refusal to return the coins.

re: derivative market spawned from banks greed to cross insure without any oversight or regulation at all on definite bets that would allways leave them as the winner and allways kill the small guy with false information, I understand the subject most definitely better it seems and I suggest you go read up and follow the recent developments surround this before spewing comments back in this thread that wasnt targetted at you which I find amusing that you thought it was.

Anyhow your response is clearly that of an asshat, well played sir.
full member
Activity: 152
Merit: 100
July 27, 2012, 11:24:23 AM
#97
Only criminals like to turn simple issues into overthought processes.
Not "overthought", just carefully and precisely reasoned. The issue wasn't as simple as you're pretending it was, and precision is important when reasoning about crimes, particularly when it relates to the identity of the victim. Anyway, that's a rather serious charge to be throwing around so freely. What crime are you accusing me of, exactly? For that matter, you also accused participants in the derivatives market of criminal intent for no better reason than your own failure to understand it. Perhaps the problem isn't with me or with them, but rather with you.

For the patience-impaired, here's the short version: Yes, a crime was committed. The victim of the crime was the property owner--the bank--not the account holder who was impersonated. The crime was fraud, possibly compounded with theft, but there wasn't enough detail in the original story to be sure of the theft.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
July 27, 2012, 10:15:25 AM
#96
So are you going to actually start mining at 20% or what?  It's clear you aren't going to pay it back willingly. :p
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 502
July 26, 2012, 11:47:57 PM
#95
Why thief???

You give MVitaliyB money, and hi not return their... BAD PERSON - not thief!!!
Malfunctioning ATM takes guy's debit card. Guy at ATM parks and goes into the office to talk to tellers. You pull up and see his account still up - and there's the "Quick Withdraw - $300" button on the screen. Is it not theft if he "gives" it to you by accident when you click the button to take what you know is his?
Not theft exactly, more like fraud committed against the bank. The money in the ATM belongs to the bank, not the account holder. You're tricking the bank (in the form of the ATM, though it would be the same with a human teller) into handling you $300 by claiming to be someone you aren't. Even though the machine dispenses the money, it doesn't become yours, because you have no contract with the bank. Even in cases where there would be an implied contract, any contract based on fraud is void. Since the money still belongs to the bank, if you walk off with it then you have, at that point, committed theft (against the bank, not the person whose account was on the screen).

Whether the account holder is liable for the bank's loss of $300 is a matter between that person and the bank. Leaving their card at the ATM could be a violation of the contract governing the account, and the contract may stipulate that they will reimburse the bank for losses owing to insecure handling of their card or other authentication credentials.

Only criminals like to turn simple issues into overthought processes.

ie. Derivatives markets being a good example. seriously over complicated bullshit formulas so that no one at any given point really can understand what shit they deal with.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
July 26, 2012, 09:42:08 PM
#94
vitaly is a ghost

only time the dude ever uses this nick to register on a forum is when he is asking a question, posting a complaint, or want to put in his 2 cents. Registers, post, and last activity always occuring on the same day or within a 2 day period.

need to figure out his regular forum name from the russian forum.
See his supporters then.  Wink
They're probably him.
full member
Activity: 152
Merit: 100
July 26, 2012, 06:51:01 PM
#93
Why thief???

You give MVitaliyB money, and hi not return their... BAD PERSON - not thief!!!
Malfunctioning ATM takes guy's debit card. Guy at ATM parks and goes into the office to talk to tellers. You pull up and see his account still up - and there's the "Quick Withdraw - $300" button on the screen. Is it not theft if he "gives" it to you by accident when you click the button to take what you know is his?
Not theft exactly, more like fraud committed against the bank. The money in the ATM belongs to the bank, not the account holder. You're tricking the bank (in the form of the ATM, though it would be the same with a human teller) into handling you $300 by claiming to be someone you aren't. Even though the machine dispenses the money, it doesn't become yours, because you have no contract with the bank. Even in cases where there would be an implied contract, any contract based on fraud is void. Since the money still belongs to the bank, if you walk off with it then you have, at that point, committed theft (against the bank, not the person whose account was on the screen).

Whether the account holder is liable for the bank's loss of $300 is a matter between that person and the bank. Leaving their card at the ATM could be a violation of the contract governing the account, and the contract may stipulate that they will reimburse the bank for losses owing to insecure handling of their card or other authentication credentials.
sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
July 26, 2012, 06:09:07 PM
#92
vitaly is a ghost

only time the dude ever uses this nick to register on a forum is when he is asking a question, posting a complaint, or want to put in his 2 cents. Registers, post, and last activity always occuring on the same day or within a 2 day period.

need to figure out his regular forum name from the russian forum.
member
Activity: 82
Merit: 10
July 26, 2012, 12:17:31 PM
#91
Dear Inaba!
You say lies a little!
In the first. On my a purse arrived transfers, because of YOUR mistake, for total amount of 47 BTC. It is not necessary to speak that I stole at you 100 BTC, it is lie!
In the second. I didn't register that day other accounts on your service! It too lie! I registered next day 1 account what to check it my operating account is frozen or again your service is buggy!

I will boil. I don't consider an event as theft, since. You allowed to take away from you 47 BTC. And that you do what to give, all the same, to the passerby of $100 and when it will depart on 10 meters to start to shout that he is a thief! It meanly and not adequately respect!

lol.

So you're ok with me breaking and entering into your house, stealing your stuff and raping your wife, since you allowed me to do so just by having a weak door and a bad lock on it?`You allow me to empty your bank account because you didnt choose a strong password?
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
July 26, 2012, 10:25:14 AM
#90

You know, this kind of threads make me want to sticky every scammer's information to somewhere conspicuous.


There is the Bitcoin Shitlist[/img]
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
July 26, 2012, 10:08:37 AM
#89

You know, this kind of threads make me want to sticky every scammer's information to somewhere conspicuous.


In a situation that the client on the account has 0$ and it disappeared, who will pay? Programmer!

I don't really understand what you're stating, but in other civilized places the client who (presumably) over-drafted the account has to pay up, and not the programmer. If the problem was widespread and troublesome, the worst the programmer would get is a reprimand or be sacked.
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 502
July 26, 2012, 09:08:32 AM
#88
It's not easy to translate with a machine...... 


But OP should still pay back the BTC he received due to a bug... Period end of story..... if not he should receive a scammer tag and be banned from mining with Inaba.
member
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Merit: 10
July 26, 2012, 08:58:48 AM
#87
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plowing
Huh any synonym? maybe it sleng?

plowing = пaxaть

пaxaть зeмлю
пaxaть нa paбoтe

PS. here is an example of misunderstanding
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 502
July 26, 2012, 08:45:44 AM
#86
See google translate does fucker it up...


it said, I enjoy plowing my wife, how about you?
member
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Merit: 10
July 26, 2012, 08:41:47 AM
#85
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вcпaшки мoя жeнa

this words don't undestand (incorrect) in this proffer )) wrote in english all
hero member
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Merit: 502
July 26, 2012, 08:36:45 AM
#84
Let's try to communicate in Russian? 100 pounds of misunderstanding will


Mнe oчeнь нpaвитcя вcпaшки мoя жeнa, кaк нacчeт вac?
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