Alright. Let's say we are no longer "in denial" about willy.
The bot existed. Created plenty of buying pressure and drove up price.
So, how about the evidence that it wasn't a customer funded, exchange internal bot, running to split up large orders of gox'
preferred clientswhales over a longer time span to minimize costs? As in: who says Willy didn't have the USD behind it?
I mean, I get it... I dislike gox as much as anyone in here. There's at least a real
chance that they have been running a fractional reserve for a long time, and the last "bubble" was created without new money coming in (to a degree at least). However, "chance" is not the same as "proof". In your own words:
Get out of my thread if you resort to this kind of fallacious reasoning. ...
To conclude foul play only from the existence and activity of Willy is bullshit, by your own standards. Be consistent.
Alright, it's correct that we can't conclude that Willy operated with fake funds based on it's existence and the VIP client/whale theory is a possible explanation. At last what's going for it is innocent until proven guilty and I think that's also the reason why Mark Karpeles is still a free man.
The reason why to argue for the "Bots were funded with fake USD" is the context. It could explain the withdrawal problems and the subsequent "missing" Bitcoins.
Another argument is motivation: Why should a "VIP" want to acquire Bitcoins denominated in Bitcoin amounts, not based on a certain USD budget? Why only market orders?
Here we have the "Very deep pockets, vs infinitely deep pockets." And I argue that infinitely deep pockets only has one reasonable explanation: fake funds
The motivation for GOX: Why offer such a deal instead of giving them a regular account? They had motivation to earn fees.
Regarding foul play: At least that Willy & Markus operated during Market downtimes has been established. That's foul play IMO.
There's two ways to look at the "why was it denominated in BTC", after all, each sequence of the bot stopped at a certain USD amount (2.5M iirc). And I can absolutely see a motivation to run it: it's a spread out market order, essentially.
But I suppose we agree on the main points: even if it was fully funded, it was foul play in the sense that it ran during downtime of the site. I don't buy the idea that the
entire run to $1200 was caused by Willy, and thus, if it wasn't funded, was entirely fake (Chinese gamblers would like a share of the glory as well
), but it probably had a substantial influence on price.
Just one of many ways gox screwed everyone over. Pathetic that Karpeles is not behind bars yet, and, yes: it probably threw the Bitcoin economy back substantially by decreasing even more the already low trust everyone had in exchanges.