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buwaytress

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Quote from: stompix on July 17, 2017, 01:08:21 PM

Quote from: crazyivan on July 17, 2017, 01:04:37 PM

Pls tell me you have actually purchased your legendary account, pls let me have faith in people.....

It will take me probably less than 15 minute to give you 10 quotes from "legendary" members that will leave you listening to faithless for the rest of your life.
And you'll get "insomania" also

))))))

I think I'm beginning to understand now what legendary comments can also mean. Perhaps it's time to recognise those who go beyond legendary, honouring their "epic" comments. *note to self* read the comments, not the member levels.

Meuh6879

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Quote from: DooMAD on July 18, 2017, 02:34:05 AM

I see, you're another one of those people who think miners and other users have to blindly follow along and can't make their own decisions about the software they choose to run. I assure you, it's definitely you who has a problem.

so, this day, we are :

- a 61% of mining power (yes, all the mining power of the Bitcoin network) building blocks with a unknown version

- a 39% of mining power (the "rest") that mine Regular Blocks (and perhaps SegWit blocks when the time commes).

Yes, it's a problem for me.
A BIG one.

We have identified a mining sector that it can do an 51% attack if they want.
Remember the 57% of a 1 pool in 2014-2015 ?
No ? Roll Eyes

Meuh6879

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Code:

2017-07-18 12:27:32 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000000003b2a27d6ec46ca572cd7ae8f403a2c148cb22b6b769265 height=476378 version=0x20000010 log2_work=86.780018 tx=240096566 date='2017-07-18 12:24:36' progress=0.999998 cache=132.4MiB(49371tx) warning='60 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'

Stable between 60 & 61%.
Can make the 51% attack (refuse segwit for example) but not the 2Mb block size (97% nodes refuse this) ... Tongue

So BIP148 is needed to force this mining sector (the 61% in less than 12h from monday to thuesday) to follow the rules of the SegWit signaling. Undecided

Looarn

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So yes I believe also that after SegWit lock-in, we will see the old BU team go HardFork signaling non SegWit blocks as they are currently.

Wait and see. Anyway, I mine 0x20000002 with my little hash power.

Looarn

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Quote from: DooMAD on July 18, 2017, 02:34:05 AM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 18, 2017, 02:20:31 AM

Quote from: DooMAD on July 18, 2017, 02:03:41 AM

Stop scaring the newbies, Meuh6879.

Stable at 61% of mining power.

Code:

2017-07-18 07:02:09 UpdateTip: new best=000000000000000000fb89db8f91845067e0b5864e1620c7a0698c25ebb0e3bf height=476341 version=0x20000012 log2_work=86.778629 tx=240039240 date='2017-07-18 06:59:49' progress=0.999998 cache=154.2MiB(68076tx) warning='61 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'

If you don't recognize a threat, you have a problem ... not me.
That's why BIP148 must stop this 61% mining power of no-standard blocks.

Segwit, it's this way, no an other magical vote on block version : http://bitcoin.sipa.be/versions.html

I see, you're another one of those people who think miners and other users have to blindly follow along and can't make their own decisions about the software they choose to run. I assure you, it's definitely you who has a problem. Why do you think Bitcoin is some form of dictatorship? Why do you honestly believe developers get to make every single last decision and no one has any option but to obey? It's not a "magical vote" at all, it's called consensus and I don't know why you seem to despise it so much if you've decided to stick around for this long. It's an integral part of how Bitcoin works. If you don't like how Bitcoin works, I understand that bankster crapcoin Ripple functions in a way you'd find more favourable. Devs make all the decisions there and no one has any other option but to run that code and only that code. Maybe go play with that and leave the people who like freedom alone.

Both UASF and SegWit2x have every right to do what they're doing. You run whatever code you want, they can run whatever code they want. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to stay if you can't deal with other people having a different view to the one you're desperately clinging onto.

Looks like you rewrite the history.

First the BU side refuse SegWit activation, by supporting BU, then they push for block expantion anyway if SegWit activate their way (i.e. BIP91).

So in other word, they are OK for SegWit but only if they activate it with some other stuff in it (2x and some other easter eggs).

If BitMain was an honest supporter of SegWit then we would have a nice BIP9 activation with 95% consensus.

Please stop shitting yourself, and I invite you to read all the BIP91 proposal, and what's really inside.

EDIT : And you should also have notice that the Old BU team is signaling 0x20000010 version so withoutSegWit readyness. Wink

(Not the case of BitFury which signaling : 0x20000012 so readyness for BIP91 and SegWit )

DooMAD

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Leave no FUD unchallenged

Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 18, 2017, 02:20:31 AM

Quote from: DooMAD on July 18, 2017, 02:03:41 AM

Stop scaring the newbies, Meuh6879.

If you don't recognize a threat, you have a problem ... not me.
That's why BIP148 must stop this 61% mining power of no-standard blocks.

Segwit, it's this way, no an other magical vote on block version : http://bitcoin.sipa.be/versions.html

I see, you're another one of those people who think miners and other users have to blindly follow along and can't make their own decisions about the software they choose to run. I assure you, it's definitely you who has a problem. Why do you think Bitcoin is some form of dictatorship? Why do you honestly believe developers get to make every single last decision and no one has any option but to obey? It's not a "magical vote" at all, it's called consensus and I don't know why you seem to despise it so much if you've decided to stick around for this long. It's an integral part of how Bitcoin works. If you don't like how Bitcoin works, I understand that bankster crapcoin Ripple functions in a way you'd find more favourable. Devs make all the decisions there and no one has any other option but to run that code and only that code. Maybe go play with that and leave the people who like freedom alone.

Both UASF and SegWit2x have every right to do what they're doing. You run whatever code you want, they can run whatever code they want. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to stay if you can't deal with other people having a different view to the one you're desperately clinging onto.

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Quote from: DooMAD on July 18, 2017, 02:03:41 AM

If anyone is still confused or alarmed by this rather dumb thread, one of the forum mods has posted a far more sensible one here to explain what's happening. It's not a cause for concern, with the possible exception that one might expect better behaviour from longstanding forum members. Stop scaring the newbies, Meuh6879.

See the sensible explanation below:

Quote from: achow101 on July 17, 2017, 05:20:29 PM

If you are using Bitcoin Core and derivative software, then you may have noticed that there is now a warning that states:

Quote

Warning: Unknown block versions being mined! It's possible unknown rules are in effect

This warning will appear at the top of the Bitcoin Core GUI and reported in the errors or warnings field of the getinfo, getnetworkinfo, and getmininginfo RPC commands.

This warning is triggered when more than 50 of the last 100 blocks have a version number that Bitcoin Core does not expect. Currently that is being triggered by miners mining for BIP 91 (aka the first half of segwit2x). These miners are setting bit 4 of the block version field, and Bitcoin Core does not expect this to be set.

The version numbers that Bitcoin Core expects are 0x20000000 (536870912) and 0x20000002 (536870914). The unexpected version numbers currently are 0x20000012 (536870930) and 0x20000010 (536870928).

Currently this warning is benign as there is no fork and no new network rules have activated. Your coins are not at risk.

^{(bolded emphasis mine)}

Thread should be locked and the fudder who started it banned.

NeuroticFish

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FUD or lack of knowledge? Hard to tell.
It's not a fork. All this is already explained here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/about-the-unknown-block-versions-being-mined-warning-2027513
If this is not intended as FUD, then OP should lock this thread and redirect to the explanation thread.

Looarn

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I just switch my miner to SlushPool, back on mining Version x20000002 (SegWit), and not this SegWitx2 New York Agreement bullshit.

61% OMG, where is BitFury ? :S

Meuh6879

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Quote from: DooMAD on July 18, 2017, 02:03:41 AM

Stop scaring the newbies, Meuh6879.

Stable at 61% of mining power.

Code:

2017-07-18 07:02:09 UpdateTip: new best=000000000000000000fb89db8f91845067e0b5864e1620c7a0698c25ebb0e3bf height=476341 version=0x20000012 log2_work=86.778629 tx=240039240 date='2017-07-18 06:59:49' progress=0.999998 cache=154.2MiB(68076tx) warning='61 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'

If you don't recognize a threat, you have a problem ... not me.
That's why BIP148 must stop this 61% mining power of no-standard blocks.
This 61% don't mean that they "want" accept any Segwit of others "bitcoin core" policies.

Segwit, it's this way, no an other magical vote on block version : http://bitcoin.sipa.be/versions.html

DooMAD

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Leave no FUD unchallenged

If anyone is still confused or alarmed by this rather dumb thread, one of the forum mods has posted a far more sensible one here to explain what's happening. It's not a cause for concern, with the possible exception that one might expect better behaviour from longstanding forum members. Stop scaring the newbies, Meuh6879.

See the sensible explanation below:

Quote from: achow101 on July 17, 2017, 05:20:29 PM

If you are using Bitcoin Core and derivative software, then you may have noticed that there is now a warning that states:

Quote

Warning: Unknown block versions being mined! It's possible unknown rules are in effect

This warning will appear at the top of the Bitcoin Core GUI and reported in the errors or warnings field of the getinfo, getnetworkinfo, and getmininginfo RPC commands.

This warning is triggered when more than 50 of the last 100 blocks have a version number that Bitcoin Core does not expect. Currently that is being triggered by miners mining for BIP 91 (aka the first half of segwit2x). These miners are setting bit 4 of the block version field, and Bitcoin Core does not expect this to be set.

The version numbers that Bitcoin Core expects are 0x20000000 (536870912) and 0x20000002 (536870914). The unexpected version numbers currently are 0x20000012 (536870930) and 0x20000010 (536870928).

Currently this warning is benign as there is no fork and no new network rules have activated. Your coins are not at risk.

^{(bolded emphasis mine)}

pooya87

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Quote from: blo8i on July 18, 2017, 01:39:51 AM

Is this topic a joke? I read some replies here and as I am seeing this is a spam topic.

Why did you chose this name? Fork? What? ..... Are you serious?

this is the first of many FUD to come. as the price rises in a sharp move, people get desperate and make silly topics like this. and OP is not a newbie to say he didn't know...

this is not a fork in progress and there is no reason for posting in red saying "unexpected version" without additional information with that silly "Mr Smith" meme.

This is just his node being silly and not recognize BIP91 version bit signalling Segregated Witness.

blo8i

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Is this topic a joke? I read some replies here and as I am seeing this is a spam topic.

Why did you chose this name? Fork? What? ..... Are you serious?

qiwoman2

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Even if there was a Bitcoin hard fork it wouldn't phase me. There might be just a little price instability in the markets but then having two Bitcoin Coins would make the developers and miners take more notice and work harder for the greater good and get off their high horses. Grin

Looarn

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Any news of BitFury ?

The only hashpower to under balance it no ?

BTC.COM was neutral so far, they switched to SegWit2x (NYA) yesterday, so now it's all BitMain plus allies minus Bitfury hashpower, so more than 50%. Sad

Meuh6879

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51% of the hashrate mining power is, now, allocated to a new version of blocks.

Code:

2017-07-17 20:24:49 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000000007df6d6851fd8b104b02ed9173cb14202aee5fa66c96443 height=476271 version=0x20000010 log2_work=86.775998 tx=239933248 date='2017-07-17 20:22:23' progress=0.999998 cache=86.8MiB(19448tx) warning='51 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'

Now, Pool mining software (like P2Pool server) and Bitcoin Core demand to the owner to upgrade the software (if needed).

It's an automated alert when more than 50% of the last 100 blocks are mined with an other version of Block.

Be prepared to the newbies questions when they start her wallets ... Kiss

Code:

2017-07-17 20:38:41 UpdateTip: new best=00000000000000000151077e3d4e0601354286a3cbe4d67dedde7d26e1b317d3 height=476272 version=0x20000010 log2_work=86.776035 tx=239935204 date='2017-07-17 20:35:40' progress=0.999998 cache=21.2MiB(7067tx) warning='52 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'

52%

Snorek

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 17, 2017, 02:47:29 PM

News : http://www.coindesk.com/bip91-begins-bitcoins-miners-signal-segwit2x-scaling-proposal-early/

Any reason why they started to signal SegWit2x earlier than expected? Is it some kind of drill.
Also I love this little disclaimer from Coindesk on how CoinDesk is always a subsidiary of something, someone, whatever and they are linked to everything in cryptocurrency ecosystem.
For example, they're part of Digital Currency Group, which helped organize the Segwit2x agreement. Sick.

Meuh6879

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Code:

2017-07-17 19:48:22 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000000013ba01219bc01f3508f92d163bd3ed2232999fb5f7c0da0 height=476266 version=0x20000000 log2_work=86.77581 tx=239923846 date='2017-07-17 19:46:07' progress=0.999998 cache=168.3MiB(83054tx) warning='48 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'
2017-07-17 20:02:21 UpdateTip: new best=00000000000000000090ebfed446fcea8eadfc6d93f6f5ca653709bdb04e0870 height=476268 version=0x20000010 log2_work=86.775885 tx=239927310 date='2017-07-17 19:59:05' progress=0.999997 cache=188.4MiB(93742tx) warning='49 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'

49%.

News : http://www.coindesk.com/bip91-begins-bitcoins-miners-signal-segwit2x-scaling-proposal-early/

Meuh6879

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Quote from: crazyivan on July 17, 2017, 01:04:37 PM

Pls tell me you have actually purchased your legendary account, pls let me have faith in people.....

remember when blockchain.info display a marvelous 57% hashrate on 1 pool ... ?
no ? Roll Eyes

You're too young.

Meuh6879

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Code:

2017-07-17 19:36:18 UpdateTip: new best=000000000000000000551076fe4e06f0f58ed9c0c445f31b379a9d8444fba1ed height=476264 version=0x20000010 log2_work=86.775734 tx=239919333 date='2017-07-17 19:33:46' progress=0.999998 cache=155.2MiB(75736tx) warning='47 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'

47% of the total Hashrate mining power build blocks with an other version number.
It's more clear like that ... ?

They need 2 blocks to evolve at +1% every time now.

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