Topic: FortuneJack has a problem in Dice game - page 2. (Read 980 times)

Do you have any proof of this? Even for several years, a profit of 11 bitcoins is very good. I have been playing dice since 2014 and I haven’t won in any of them, especially in the long run. Which method are you using?

even though i wagered 500btc over a few years at FJ. i'm up 11btc there


so i guess i am the master of dice. not even 10% edge can hold me down

So this was done on purpose, so that users often lose their money? 10.89% is a huge percentage, because everyone knows that even with 1% house edge it is often very difficult to play. I hope everything is really fixed.

Websites doesnt provide those needs yet as being said this would pertain about typical persons that do play or even just observing on the site and with their
own initiative they can able to spot it out but i would say the level of bug would vary on someones level of programming skills because they can analyze and detect
which isnt right compared to those zero knowledge specially if someone do had coding skills then bug bounty hunting would fit you out.

Since this thread is being answered by FJ representative and already got cleared, maybe its time to lock this thread/topic?

just send  payback  to my account


thanks.


cryptobet 

I mean has the issue really been solved? You have profited off this for years at the expense of your players, is there going to be any responsibility taken for this?

I believe that it is not necessary to look for some special topic on bitcointalk to deal with issues of finding vulnerabilities of a particular resource.  I think that the user, on his own initiative, can find some problems and directly contact the administration.  In any case, if the mistakes are serious, then the person will definitely be rewarded for this.  I have confidence only that only a decent team is able to evaluate the work of an attentive and professional person.
But in the fortunejack relationship, I am very surprised that this famous portal has been working since 2014 and still some problems still occur.

Even big names have this bugs on their websites because they are upgrading and updating on what's inside. I'm wondering what would a bug bounty hunter does though I'm pretty sure they are testing everything so they could find bugs cause it's pretty obvious but I'm still curious. Does the platform provide what they need? like funds? computer? or they are just ordinary people hired to play and report encountered bugs?

That's absurd. Maybe you should put some time reading what i wrote on my previous post. It wouldn't be that hard to calculate the effected rolls and players
Though less than half of the refund money will ever be withdrawn

Maybe they can, i think it will be asking too much from them. There may be players who played and left and no longer play on the sites. This will be a huge amount of effort to calculate all the bets and figure out the correct amount.
My opinion is to leave the past but for the future, good thing is that no further players can be affected by it.

Not really. They should be credited when they reimburse the players.



Exactly. And i don't think it would take more than few hours to figure out which roll numbers were incorrectly treated as loss
They just need to loop through all the bets and check whether the side is Roll Over and Game === roll number.

Since there are 11.2 Billion rolls history. The amount of incorrectly treated rolls would be somewhere 448K considering 40% of the rolls were "Roll over"
Though i would love to hear some stats from your side



I wasn't offered any bug bounty when the issue was resolved. I had to ask for it. So they offered 0.02 btc for years long bug
Had to complain about the amount offered for such huge bug, so they offered 0.1 btc which i was to either accept or reject



Whether it was done deliberately or overlooked, this is the subject we can only speculate about though the bug is really silly hence never found
Crediting the users back would be pretty darn easy. They would only need to credit about half a million rolls. Not a big deal for a dice game



I was about to ask this question to FJ when the issue was resolved but then i found few more bugs which showed signs of an exploit but ended up being just visual bugs and nothing serious



Not really that long. Just few hours to figure out the rolls effected and additional few hours to reimburse the effected players
And i got only 0.1 btc for the bug bounty. Would love to know how much you were awarded



Thought so. Didn't have much option at the end. I was supposed to either accept or reject an offer of 0.1 btc

For sites like Fortunejack there would really be a bounty bug for this one yet the level of technical problem is quite high so its expected to be high too.
If you arent caring too much on what did you find out then you would end up something like that same as you said.It is worthy to get up some rewards with
these finds arent that basic ones that a simple joe can find on.

Naa ahhh , this gonna be a long journey for them to completely reimburse everyone who affected since this bug indicated was there since day one.

Wondering how much fortunejack pay op for this finding ....   a long time ago I reported similar technical problems and received my bug rewards quite huge. At op case level it must be super huge rewards   . PM me op if you wonder how much I've got. I'll tell you mine.

However sometimes if you didn't ask for the bounty rewards.. you'll be considered help them voluntarily which I hated that part unfortunately.

I am more on "I/they/we don't care, since I/they/we did not urge to play on the site". I personally realized that after few minutes playing around with the site when I was seeking for sites 3 plus months ago, and then go away/ never turning back with simple thought that "it favour the house".

The key thing for them on Dice game is Min Bet vs Max Win range is too low to let a dice bot play for long enough rather than 0.49 vs 0.50 thing.

Some high volume players could have been seriously adversely affected by this.

Has Fortunejack mentioned how they plan to reimburse anybody that has had their money stolen in this way?

Yes they can if they want to really give meaning on "Provably Fair". They have tracks on record for each player, I know they can trace who encountered this bug on their dice game. Compensation for players are needed since they weren't aware of this, small or big bettors, they deserve to be treated with fairness. We get it, house always wins but the fact that there is a chance to win is undeniable.

They can if they wish to do it, there must be a full history of bets made at Fortunejack so they can give some compensation for those who were affected. Obviously as what is said by Stunna, it might be difficult and take a lot of time but I believe it can be checked. The amount of win bets that graded as lose bets can be a huge amount since its been many years already, lets see what Fortunejack is going to do to deal with this. IMO, giving bug bounty for those who find this bug is not enough because the affected players deserves to get their money back if they lost some money due to this bug.

I am sure this was not done deliberately and this bug has just been figured out. Obviously they cannot compensate the players for this but the good thing is that they have accepted it and will update it. Also the new bug bounty announced by fortune jack is yet another step towards transparency and good faith.

Given the way provably fair works, it should be relatively easy to go through all the old bets and award wins that were improperly graded as a loss (and notify people of the extra balance now in their account). I don't see how you could justify not doing it.

I wouldn't hold my breath though, I think they've always had a bit of a checkered past ... only doing the right thing if their feet were held to the fire.

That is actually such a nice thing to do by fortunejack with the bug bounty deed.

I mean they did had a problem, they didn't realize it or they didn't care because it was making them profit, then it got more public (you can see that they didn't care when support was helping but when it got to bitcointalk they cared, power of social media) and then people literally started to bug them about it and they fixed it, after fixing it and to make sure this topic gets a correction they gave OP some money or maybe they paid before the edit so that he would edit and show how it is fixed, if you pay OP he would edit and say it was fixed which would be easier than trying to open a new topic and show people it is fixed now, hence they paid the bug bounty, I doubt they would have otherwise.