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Quote from: Marcus_2017 on May 06, 2017, 12:42:53 PM

I'm afraid that they will start to use in their fashion shows show the fatties. Instead of fighting with the extra weight on the contrary, they raise the issue of anorexia. I don't like too skinny of models, but it seems to me that in the world the problem of excess weight much more relevant than anorexia.

No don't worry.
The fact is that France is one of the most utterly disgusted country by fatties.
You know that it's harder for a fat person to get a job than for a black one in France? Grin

We hate fatties. We love food and cooking and we hate anything that shows food isn't perfect, so overweighted persons are not loved around.

So it's logical to raise awarness on annorexia, we already have largely enough propaganda against fatties.

LOL. Maybe America should take a chapter out of your rule-book? So, how exactly do you discriminate against overweight and obese people? Also, does the government have policies aimed at keeping people at normal weight?

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Quote from: Challenger2015 on May 10, 2017, 06:14:24 AM

Quote from: Machanto on May 10, 2017, 05:56:42 AM

This is somewhat unsettling. Even if someone does not like skinny models why must the state intervene and ban them? Its completely illogical, do other first countries that have extreme obesity problems ban models for being TOO FAT? No, they even encourage them as if dying from your blocked arteries due to extremely high cholesterol, heart attacks is somehow empowering. Have you seen Tess Holliday? She is a Plus Sized model and there is a video of her kneeling down for some reason and to stand back up to her feet she had to get support from 5 other women surrounding her.

Who will determine skinny model or not? I do not agree with this approach. This is not an area where you can intervene to the government. Even watching their secretaries, but not for models. Someone like Tess Holliday even open my own Agency and show there show the fatties.

Probably the Government Officials will check on the agencies and their models, if one model from a certain agency appears to be too skinny (and that may be measured with the BMI standard) the agency will receive a fine and the model would be banned from modelling I guess. In my opinion the use of photo editing programs in the fashion industry is more deceiving towards people who care about fashion and I would support a ban towards them but then again that is almost impossible to achieve

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Quote from: machinek20 on May 10, 2017, 06:37:21 AM

A model supposed to be proportional to their body, model can be said as a public figure, most teens try to looks like a model and if the models is too skinny the teenager will try to do the same and some of the method can destroy the body and cause serious illness, so I do agree to banned skinny models

What's the model? It seems to me that it is the duty of parents to monitor a teenager and time to go to a psychologist. The College also has professors that are unable to notice the problem. It seems to me that such a law could come up with the official's mistress who was not taken in the model due to the extra weight.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 10, 2017, 06:09:56 AM

Quote from: Machanto on May 10, 2017, 05:56:42 AM

This is somewhat unsettling. Even if someone does not like skinny models why must the state intervene and ban them? Its completely illogical, do other first countries that have extreme obesity problems ban models for being TOO FAT? No, they even encourage them as if dying from your blocked arteries due to extremely high cholesterol, heart attacks is somehow empowering. Have you seen Tess Holliday? She is a Plus Sized model and there is a video of her kneeling down for some reason and to stand back up to her feet she had to get support from 5 other women surrounding her.

They are fighting the trend started by designers and agencies. They seem to think, for some unknown reason, that clothes look better on skinny people. Models are getting thiner and thinner to get offers and teenagers are looking at them as examples. This is a false beauty promoted by the media, that leads to bulimia and anorexia.
Personally, I think they shouldn't interfere and let the people judge and choose themselves. If they think losing health to fit into s size clothes is worth it, let them. Banning something won't make it go away.

Is this really the problem? I would have guessed that obesity is far more important and affects far more many people than anorexia and bulimia. France over the years did not experience such problems but after a quick search I've seen that its a growing problem and should be addressed more often

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A model supposed to be proportional to their body, model can be said as a public figure, most teens try to looks like a model and if the models is too skinny the teenager will try to do the same and some of the method can destroy the body and cause serious illness, so I do agree to banned skinny models

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Quote from: zend7 on May 10, 2017, 06:20:33 AM

Really good initiative in my opinion. In Europe we are having more and more cases of young girls having all kind of diseases which are very uncommon for their age only because they like to follow trend and fashion of what they see on TV. France is doing a really good thing by banning these shows and I hope more other countries in the big EU family to follow such initiative.

And then what? Then the government will fight obesity? Besides, I don't like fat women. I like most. Women will still be forced to either follow along or they will be doomed to loneliness. It seems to me that this decision the French took under pressure from Muslims. They like thick.

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Really good initiative in my opinion. In Europe we are having more and more cases of young girls having all kind of diseases which are very uncommon for their age only because they like to follow trend and fashion of what they see on TV. France is doing a really good thing by banning these shows and I hope more other countries in the big EU family to follow such initiative.

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Quote from: Machanto on May 10, 2017, 05:56:42 AM

This is somewhat unsettling. Even if someone does not like skinny models why must the state intervene and ban them? Its completely illogical, do other first countries that have extreme obesity problems ban models for being TOO FAT? No, they even encourage them as if dying from your blocked arteries due to extremely high cholesterol, heart attacks is somehow empowering. Have you seen Tess Holliday? She is a Plus Sized model and there is a video of her kneeling down for some reason and to stand back up to her feet she had to get support from 5 other women surrounding her.

Who will determine skinny model or not? I do not agree with this approach. This is not an area where you can intervene to the government. Even watching their secretaries, but not for models. Someone like Tess Holliday even open my own Agency and show there show the fatties.

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Quote from: Machanto on May 10, 2017, 05:56:42 AM

This is somewhat unsettling. Even if someone does not like skinny models why must the state intervene and ban them? Its completely illogical, do other first countries that have extreme obesity problems ban models for being TOO FAT? No, they even encourage them as if dying from your blocked arteries due to extremely high cholesterol, heart attacks is somehow empowering. Have you seen Tess Holliday? She is a Plus Sized model and there is a video of her kneeling down for some reason and to stand back up to her feet she had to get support from 5 other women surrounding her.

They are fighting the trend started by designers and agencies. They seem to think, for some unknown reason, that clothes look better on skinny people. Models are getting thiner and thinner to get offers and teenagers are looking at them as examples. This is a false beauty promoted by the media, that leads to bulimia and anorexia.
Personally, I think they shouldn't interfere and let the people judge and choose themselves. If they think losing health to fit into s size clothes is worth it, let them. Banning something won't make it go away.

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Quote from: Forester618 on May 06, 2017, 06:25:28 AM

France enacted a law banning the use for fashion shows and advertising shootings overly skinny models. Measure is dictated by concern for the health of both the models and the rest of the citizens, especially young women, said Friday the Minister of health Marisol Touraine. In a few years will look greasy and ugly models. Why then do shows? Who is going to watch them.

I am in support of the France movement in banning the use or hiring of skinny models in fashion show and advertising shootings. I am not against models and the fashion world but those kind of shows promoting malnourishment to models. Women are abusing themselves and depriving themselves from eating properly so they can get that skinny figure. It is not good for their health and may can cause illness to the models on the long run.

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This is somewhat unsettling. Even if someone does not like skinny models why must the state intervene and ban them? Its completely illogical, do other first countries that have extreme obesity problems ban models for being TOO FAT? No, they even encourage them as if dying from your blocked arteries due to extremely high cholesterol, heart attacks is somehow empowering. Have you seen Tess Holliday? She is a Plus Sized model and there is a video of her kneeling down for some reason and to stand back up to her feet she had to get support from 5 other women surrounding her.

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Quote from: Marcus_2017 on May 06, 2017, 12:42:53 PM

I'm afraid that they will start to use in their fashion shows show the fatties. Instead of fighting with the extra weight on the contrary, they raise the issue of anorexia. I don't like too skinny of models, but it seems to me that in the world the problem of excess weight much more relevant than anorexia.

No don't worry.
The fact is that France is one of the most utterly disgusted country by fatties.
You know that it's harder for a fat person to get a job than for a black one in France? Grin

We hate fatties. We love food and cooking and we hate anything that shows food isn't perfect, so overweighted persons are not loved around.

So it's logical to raise awarness on annorexia, we already have largely enough propaganda against fatties.

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Quote from: SmirnoffVany on May 06, 2017, 06:37:09 AM

Well, for example, I do not like too skinny models that mutilate their body only to get on the podium. The body of the model should be normal.

I agree. For example, if the BMI is extremely low (below 15), then the model must be given a warning to increase her weight. If she is not complying, then she must be served with a ban.

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I know many people who regularly visit fast food outlets and thus remain of normal weight. People always trying to blame their troubles someone. It's easier than blaming yourself. And the damage of fast food is still not proven.

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Whether they be anorexic or just down right, um, f, the media shouldn't be endorsing unhealthy lifestyle. The thing here is finding out what is the "appropriate" body size. I've seen somewhere that BMI is not really a good indicator.

Quote from: Marcus_2017 on May 06, 2017, 12:42:53 PM

I'm afraid that they will start to use in their fashion shows show the fatties. Instead of fighting with the extra weight on the contrary, they raise the issue of anorexia. I don't like too skinny of models, but it seems to me that in the world the problem of excess weight much more relevant than anorexia.

Marcus, you can't say "fat" anymore, the PC Army will take you away and lock you up forever. (This comment sponsored by Fast-food Association.)

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I'm afraid that they will start to use in their fashion shows show the fatties. Instead of fighting with the extra weight on the contrary, they raise the issue of anorexia. I don't like too skinny of models, but it seems to me that in the world the problem of excess weight much more relevant than anorexia.

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This is a welcome change. I've seen ads with anorexic models before and being exposed to those might cause young girls to think that that is the normal body weight. I don't think this would cause fashion magazine and runways to start using fat models, I'm expecting that they would use more models that approximate the regular person. I've seen School of Life vid where they've shown Victorian erotica. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPeVVGCmwx0&t=315s The models are surprisingly "normal". Now compare that with modern porn.

Quote from: leademepls on May 06, 2017, 09:36:23 AM

They should define overly skinny. I agree that there are photo shoots glamorizing women with obvious anorexia(these are often shot in black and white for some reason), but I'm starting to see people labeling fit girls as overly skinny too. I like models who have body type like lets say Taylor Swift for example. Skinny and fit is feminine, fat not so much.

Yeah, they should come up with a way of measuring whether the model is unhealthily skinny. I mean, if you're naturally skinny but also healthy then fine, but don't put up obviously anorexic models. That might just encourage others to follow suit.

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They should define overly skinny. I agree that there are photo shoots glamorizing women with obvious anorexia(these are often shot in black and white for some reason), but I'm starting to see people labeling fit girls as overly skinny too. I like models who have body type like lets say Taylor Swift for example. Skinny and fit is feminine, fat not so much.

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Well, for example, I do not like too skinny models that mutilate their body only to get on the podium. The body of the model should be normal.

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France enacted a law banning the use for fashion shows and advertising shootings overly skinny models. Measure is dictated by concern for the health of both the models and the rest of the citizens, especially young women, said Friday the Minister of health Marisol Touraine. In a few years will look greasy and ugly models. Why then do shows? Who is going to watch them.

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