France: Suspect arrested after shooting at Grasse school

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on March 16, 2017, 09:06:03 AM

One person has been arrested after a shooting at a high school in the town of Grasse, south-east France, authorities said Thursday.
A 17-year-old armed with a rifle, a handgun, a revolver and two grenades entered the Alexis de Tocqueville school at about lunchtime and opened fire at the headteacher, CNN's French affiliate BFMTV reported.

CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/europe/france-high-school-shooting-grasse/

This is one serious crime here.. i can't believe in this era they easily get some dangerous weapons even student's get that kind of weapon in order to cause chaos in their school >.< but this is not really a terrorism attack it only acts in like a Massacre only no one got killed but only injured people but this happens all the time in schools like in america 2 students we're killing their own class mates and school mates for revenge..

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I dont see why this should not be called a terrorist attempt, They boy was clearly armed to the teeth with so many guns and grenades shows that he really wanted to kill people. I am certain they are not calling it a terrorist attack because the suspects doesnt have an Arabic name. If he had, the media would have been all over this.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on March 16, 2017, 09:06:03 AM

One person has been arrested after a shooting at a high school in the town of Grasse, south-east France, authorities said Thursday.
A 17-year-old armed with a rifle, a handgun, a revolver and two grenades entered the Alexis de Tocqueville school at about lunchtime and opened fire at the headteacher, CNN's French affiliate BFMTV reported.

CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/europe/france-high-school-shooting-grasse/

The big question is on the attitude of the child and his actions. What influence the child to do such a thing did he hated the head teacher too much or the school is not teaching their students well in terms of morals. There are three culprits here first is the student, the second is the school and the third is the parents. Another thing is why did the school allowed the student to enter the school while carrying those weapons, dont they have security personnel checking the belongings of every one before entering the campus. The school is no longer safe to children since even weapons can come in.

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A student of 17 years had a rifle, pistol, revolver and two grenades. And how they can get all the weapons? If I may speculate, this has to do with militant group that has been troubling France in the last few months. Moreover, France will implement the presidential election, will harm if not immediately addressed because it would interfere with security. Hopefully the suspect who fled could be arrested and France in a state conducive.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 18, 2017, 04:09:20 AM

Terrorism is out of the question here. But I don't know what the religion of the boy is, and as I have suspected, the kid has difficulty integrating with the schools and have issues with some of this fellow students. But the important thing to notice here is, how the hell the boy have so many weapons in his arsenal and just walking around school premises with it? France has a very strict law on guns and needed permits to get one. So I think the need to review their law and investigate more on how the kid get his gun. Good thing that no one died, but the next time maybe they would not be so lucky.

Parents now pay very little attention to their children and therefore there are some moments when schools are bad for children, a bit unlike others or in other situations, some are trying to offend others severely. This should not be. The words of young people are not considered and can cause more harm to the psyche. Therefore the offended take up arms.

Hmm. But I think you got a point. Parents now are also busy with their own life like business or work that they tend to not give their kids the needed attention. Although this is more happening in a progressive country like France or US. I haven't heard any news of shooting or taking up arms in Asia for example. I know bullying is all over the world but it always happened in somewhere in developed country. I supposed those parents in progressive country has issue tending to their kids when growing up. This is evident in some Hollywood movies.

Where did he even get guns? If it is so easy to buy weapons, such cases will be regularly. Offended is always and everywhere. This is not a reason for firing. All adolescents have a weak mind and this can happen again.

This can happen again for sure. That's why parents should take care of their kids and need to give them attention. The kid mostly get guns illegally so maybe he was able to obtain it through someone and just pay him cash and used it to shoot at the school wounding a lot of students and head master.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 18, 2017, 12:32:21 PM

Quote from: onelove2111 on March 18, 2017, 06:43:52 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 18, 2017, 04:09:20 AM

Terrorism is out of the question here. But I don't know what the religion of the boy is, and as I have suspected, the kid has difficulty integrating with the schools and have issues with some of this fellow students. But the important thing to notice here is, how the hell the boy have so many weapons in his arsenal and just walking around school premises with it? France has a very strict law on guns and needed permits to get one. So I think the need to review their law and investigate more on how the kid get his gun. Good thing that no one died, but the next time maybe they would not be so lucky.

Parents now pay very little attention to their children and therefore there are some moments when schools are bad for children, a bit unlike others or in other situations, some are trying to offend others severely. This should not be. The words of young people are not considered and can cause more harm to the psyche. Therefore the offended take up arms.

Hmm. But I think you got a point. Parents now are also busy with their own life like business or work that they tend to not give their kids the needed attention. Although this is more happening in a progressive country like France or US. I haven't heard any news of shooting or taking up arms in Asia for example. I know bullying is all over the world but it always happened in somewhere in developed country. I supposed those parents in progressive country has issue tending to their kids when growing up. This is evident in some Hollywood movies.

Where did he even get guns? If it is so easy to buy weapons, such cases will be regularly. Offended is always and everywhere. This is not a reason for firing. All adolescents have a weak mind and this can happen again.

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Quote from: onelove2111 on March 18, 2017, 06:43:52 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 18, 2017, 04:09:20 AM

Terrorism is out of the question here. But I don't know what the religion of the boy is, and as I have suspected, the kid has difficulty integrating with the schools and have issues with some of this fellow students. But the important thing to notice here is, how the hell the boy have so many weapons in his arsenal and just walking around school premises with it? France has a very strict law on guns and needed permits to get one. So I think the need to review their law and investigate more on how the kid get his gun. Good thing that no one died, but the next time maybe they would not be so lucky.

Parents now pay very little attention to their children and therefore there are some moments when schools are bad for children, a bit unlike others or in other situations, some are trying to offend others severely. This should not be. The words of young people are not considered and can cause more harm to the psyche. Therefore the offended take up arms.

Hmm. But I think you got a point. Parents now are also busy with their own life like business or work that they tend to not give their kids the needed attention. Although this is more happening in a progressive country like France or US. I haven't heard any news of shooting or taking up arms in Asia for example. I know bullying is all over the world but it always happened in somewhere in developed country. I supposed those parents in progressive country has issue tending to their kids when growing up. This is evident in some Hollywood movies.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 18, 2017, 04:09:20 AM

Terrorism is out of the question here. But I don't know what the religion of the boy is, and as I have suspected, the kid has difficulty integrating with the schools and have issues with some of this fellow students. But the important thing to notice here is, how the hell the boy have so many weapons in his arsenal and just walking around school premises with it? France has a very strict law on guns and needed permits to get one. So I think the need to review their law and investigate more on how the kid get his gun. Good thing that no one died, but the next time maybe they would not be so lucky.

Parents now pay very little attention to their children and therefore there are some moments when schools are bad for children, a bit unlike others or in other situations, some are trying to offend others severely. This should not be. The words of young people are not considered and can cause more harm to the psyche. Therefore the offended take up arms.

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Terrorism is out of the question here. But I don't know what the religion of the boy is, and as I have suspected, the kid has difficulty integrating with the schools and have issues with some of this fellow students. But the important thing to notice here is, how the hell the boy have so many weapons in his arsenal and just walking around school premises with it? France has a very strict law on guns and needed permits to get one. So I think the need to review their law and investigate more on how the kid get his gun. Good thing that no one died, but the next time maybe they would not be so lucky.

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The French are very proud of their tough gun laws. But it is not working that well now. How the 17-year old managed to get a weapon in the first place? Even if he purchased the gun from a foreign nation, how he was able to bring it back to France?

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Quote from: one-day0 on March 16, 2017, 02:40:48 PM

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Well at least this time they said the first name. I wonder what excuse would be given again. And also, seriously, that much weapon on a 17 year-old? They better find how he got those. That detail alone make it seem worse than some of the school shootings in America. Hopefully this is not some teen who got into a group that provided him the weapons. That would be more alarming.

The official versions of the events were always different from the truth. The authorities will give their truth to the public to reassure, because in fact the real truth can be very bitter.

Well that's usually how they operate. Gotta keep the people calm or they might do something stupid on a panic. Sometimes they even go so far as to hide the suspects identity. I can't remember the details but there was a rape case somewhere in Europe where they released the name of the victim but refused to give details about the detained suspects. It's just crazy no wonder people are flocking to right-wingers who promise to keep them safe.

So far though this seem to be not linked to religious extremism. The details really vary depending on the outlet. Some said that weapons are from home while others said a sibling's boyfriend sold him or helped him acquire the weapons.

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Quote from: Mometaskers on March 16, 2017, 01:11:16 PM

Well at least this time they said the first name. I wonder what excuse would be given again. And also, seriously, that much weapon on a 17 year-old? They better find how he got those. That detail alone make it seem worse than some of the school shootings in America. Hopefully this is not some teen who got into a group that provided him the weapons. That would be more alarming.

The official versions of the events were always different from the truth. The authorities will give their truth to the public to reassure, because in fact the real truth can be very bitter.

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Well at least this time they said the first name. I wonder what excuse would be given again. And also, seriously, that much weapon on a 17 year-old? They better find how he got those. That detail alone make it seem worse than some of the school shootings in America. Hopefully this is not some teen who got into a group that provided him the weapons. That would be more alarming.

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on March 16, 2017, 10:44:05 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on March 16, 2017, 09:06:03 AM

One person has been arrested after a shooting at a high school in the town of Grasse, south-east France, authorities said Thursday.
A 17-year-old armed with a rifle, a handgun, a revolver and two grenades entered the Alexis de Tocqueville school at about lunchtime and opened fire at the headteacher, CNN's French affiliate BFMTV reported.

CNN: http://editi[Suspicious link removed]/2017/03/16/europe/france-high-school-shooting-grasse/

The question I would want to ask is how the hell does a 17 year old high school guy lay his hand on a weapon like that? It show the society and government has failed in his own responsibility and if it does that then the society should be ready to bear its consequence and thats exactly what is happening the worst that will happen is he is being arraigned and the lawyers find reasons for his action and he may get a slap on the wrist whereas the person he killed is gone forever.

It seems to me that the most important thing is not the causes that push young people into crime and figure out where he got the gun and grenades.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on March 16, 2017, 09:06:03 AM

One person has been arrested after a shooting at a high school in the town of Grasse, south-east France, authorities said Thursday.
A 17-year-old armed with a rifle, a handgun, a revolver and two grenades entered the Alexis de Tocqueville school at about lunchtime and opened fire at the headteacher, CNN's French affiliate BFMTV reported.

CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/europe/france-high-school-shooting-grasse/

The question I would want to ask is how the hell does a 17 year old high school guy lay his hand on a weapon like that? It show the society and government has failed in his own responsibility and if it does that then the society should be ready to bear its consequence and thats exactly what is happening the worst that will happen is he is being arraigned and the lawyers find reasons for his action and he may get a slap on the wrist whereas the person he killed is gone forever.

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Quote from: criptix on March 16, 2017, 10:27:15 AM

Quote from: ValeryBark on March 16, 2017, 10:16:19 AM

I don't know how in France the situation with gun laws, but in America, such cases occur only because the school is a territory free of weapons. The criminal always knows where he can use weapons, and where you can get shot in the back.

New york was a airliner free zone that is why 9/11 happened Undecided

It seems to me that 9/11 was going to happen. Someone in America it was profitable. Now Americans can anywhere in the world to fight terrorism.

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Quote from: ValeryBark on March 16, 2017, 10:16:19 AM

I don't know how in France the situation with gun laws, but in America, such cases occur only because the school is a territory free of weapons. The criminal always knows where he can use weapons, and where you can get shot in the back.

New york was a airplane free zone that is why 9/11 happened Undecided

Russia has less then 10 guns per 100 residents.
USA has more then 110 guns per 100 residents.

How comes russia doesnt have mass shooting every month even though it is a developing country in relation to the US? (I.e. it is legal to physically abuse your family their) Roll Eyes

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I don't know how in France the situation with gun laws, but in America, such cases occur only because the school is a territory free of weapons. The criminal always knows where he can use weapons, and where you can get shot in the back.

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Quote from: joshy23 on March 16, 2017, 09:30:59 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on March 16, 2017, 09:06:03 AM

One person has been arrested after a shooting at a high school in the town of Grasse, south-east France, authorities said Thursday.
A 17-year-old armed with a rifle, a handgun, a revolver and two grenades entered the Alexis de Tocqueville school at about lunchtime and opened fire at the headteacher, CNN's French affiliate BFMTV reported.

CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/europe/france-high-school-shooting-grasse/

Is this another crime wherein the student was bullied or fellow students or a teacher? similar to other school shooting incidents across the US? I don't know if this is the first time in France. We still don't know the details as of now, but I will assume that the student is being bullied here that's why as a response, he decided to shoot at the school. Or maybe the student was threatened by the teacher to be expelled from the school. The perpetuator could be facing prison time here if convicted for aggravated assault and other charges.

It's very bad news but at least there is no connection with terrorism.
Such tragedies happens often, unfortunately, and it's hard to prevent it.
Parents are so busy with their work and their children are alone, in the streets.
young people play violent games and sometimes they feel that conflicts can be resolved in the same way, with real violence.
Our public schools, social organizations, NGO, governments, should deal with such problems before is to late.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on March 16, 2017, 09:06:03 AM

One person has been arrested after a shooting at a high school in the town of Grasse, south-east France, authorities said Thursday.
A 17-year-old armed with a rifle, a handgun, a revolver and two grenades entered the Alexis de Tocqueville school at about lunchtime and opened fire at the headteacher, CNN's French affiliate BFMTV reported.

CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/europe/france-high-school-shooting-grasse/

Is this another crime wherein the student was bullied or fellow students or a teacher? similar to other school shooting incidents across the US? I don't know if this is the first time in France. We still don't know the details as of now, but I will assume that the student is being bullied here that's why as a response, he decided to shoot at the school. Or maybe the student was threatened by the teacher to be expelled from the school. The perpetuator could be facing prison time here if convicted for aggravated assault and other charges.

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