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M0w
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Merit: 100
Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.

You sir are a fraud, period.
I suggest you to create a scam accusation properly in this forum, to warn all users and bettors, when it is done, kindly post it here.

Where exactly can I post the accusation? In the same subforum as this thread?
M0w
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Really? Because the answer is still the same and does not address any of the other comments I made.

BetOpen is a scam site and claims fraudulent activity without providing any evidence.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
* BetOpen.co *
Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.

It was just updated to answer them all

hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 534
Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.

You sir are a fraud, period.
I suggest you to create a scam accusation properly in this forum, to warn all users and bettors, when it is done, kindly post it here.
M0w
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.

You sir are a fraud, period.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
* BetOpen.co *

Why will you not just reset my winnings from that day?

Any fraud usage is punished by closure of the account (and also you've used the fraudalent obtained coins to increase the balance more and counting them as fair), we just offered you ability to continue betting honestly by keeping account active, which you denied.

Lets stop the discussion, as said before we won't change our decision.
If we wanted just to keep your coins, we could block account without any explanations, discussions and chats here as other sportsbooks do. But you will never see any feedback like that from our users, your case is the only one with this kind of issue. So any blames to us about "scam" that were brought before are empty and unfair.
M0w
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
You still owe me at least 2 Bitcoin if you remove the winnings from that day.

Untill this is sorted out I will advice everybody to stay away from this site because they will refuse to pay any big winners
M0w
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
But there was NO fraudulent activity like I already told you.

You claim there is but cannot even provide any evidence and just come up with random facts
M0w
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Haha okay, so you say I placed bets during and after the games but cannot back this up with any evidence. Sounds like a lot of bullshit to me to be honest.

Why will you not just reset my winnings from that day?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
* BetOpen.co *
Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? I highly doubt that I did that and even if I did it was not intentional.

Please show me the bets with timestamp which were wrong in your eyes.

This is violation of the rules, punished as described in T&Cs so intention doesn't matter.
As i said above, timestamps were also affected by the issue and weren't saved correctly. And we can not disclose backend/server info.
M0w
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? I highly doubt that I did that and even if I did it was not intentional.

Please show me the bets with timestamp which were wrong in your eyes.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
* BetOpen.co *
So again, regarding mow case...

His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons).
As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.

2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7

On the day issue were active :
WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result

1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2
2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.

After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.

By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.


All of this so called proofs are assumptions only, which means it doesnt prove anything,
The percetage you are telling where you based your judgement which is 0.00024% is bullshit. One fact and explanation on that is the powerball lottery where the chance of winning is 0.00000057%, and still there is someone winning it.

The percentage is calculated correctly, i think you forgot that powerball lottery sells hundreds of millions of tickets before win happens, we don't operate such amounts.
You can see the basic tickets info on the last page, but more details will not give additional proof, because tickets info (like time) also were affected by the issue. Issue were related to server time zones, and gave ability to place pre-game bets during and after the game, that's all that we can safely disclose/show. We can't give backend/server details.
And we won't change the decision about this case. So i hope we stop meaningful discussion about it.
We're distributed globally.
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 534
So again, regarding mow case...

His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons).
As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.

2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7

On the day issue were active :
WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result

1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2
2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.

After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.

By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.


All of this so called proofs are assumptions only, which means it doesnt prove anything,
1. Show the bet details, if it is a prematch bet then user is probably innocent.
2. The vulnerability you are telling, since you said it is already fixed by the dev team, you can disclosed it and how he used it, then you can prove he is really fraudalent.
3. The percetage you are telling where you based your judgement which is 0.00024% is bullshit. One fact and explanation on that is the powerball lottery where the chance of winning is 0.00000057%, and still there is someone winning it.
4. Dont ignore users asking where is your location, and your license to operate. Disclose it.

Still.AVOID THE SITE, until issues, inquiries and allegations are not resolved .
sr. member
Activity: 479
Merit: 533
So again, regarding mow case...

His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons).
As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.

2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7

On the day issue were active :
WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result

1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2
2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.

After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.

By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.



You are an idiot, if he didn't modify the bets(which is impossible for he fixed the game too) you should pay him, you have no proof, all your conclusion is assumption.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
show us the detailed bet history from that day betopen
M0w
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Also, my account is now completely closed by BetOpen, meaning I have no possibilities to show the bets I placed and prove my innocence
M0w
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Once again I have seen no proof that I actually cheated. You only mention some vulnerability that I used?

Please provide more info (via pm or email). Also, like I already suggested in my email, just take away my winnings from that day and return the other funds that were also in my account, which I won during other days were I supposedly didn't cheat using your so called vulnerabilities
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
* BetOpen.co *
So again, regarding mow case...

His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons).
As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.

2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7

On the day issue were active :
WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result

1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2
2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.

After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.

By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.

sr. member
Activity: 306
Merit: 250
how can the site just confiscate customer funds without a proper explanation, that is a lot of money.
sr. member
Activity: 383
Merit: 250
I want to hear how do you solve m0w's issue, if you can't fix that scam accusation, you won't get much customers because you are scammer.
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