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Topic: [Free Script] Untitled Dice - Run your own bitcoin dice site (no server needed) - page 9. (Read 64517 times)

legendary
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tl;dr

What I imagine you said is: Lost martinfailing yada yada yada butthurt yada yada yada pissed and will make MP look bad yada yada yada...
Jesus guy, did you even try to verify the rolls? Do it or gtfo.

LET THE WRATH OF l4r3f4c3 COMMENCE AND MAY THE PWNAGE BE MOST UNMERCIFUL AND RUTHLESS!   

Are you like 14y old and hang out on HF all day? You might want to grow some pubic hair first then..

He wasn't martingaling. He was betting at 80% chance (1 in 5 rolls is a loss) he lost more than 1 in 5 so he is claiming shenanigans.
A lot people think that 98% chance can't lose but they forget about that other 2%. Just like 4 out of 5 times you win, doesn't guarantee that you'll actually win 4 out of 5 rolls.
Out of curiosity, what is HF?
member
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Vires in numeris.
tl;dr

What I imagine you said is: Lost martinfailing yada yada yada butthurt yada yada yada pissed and will make MP look bad yada yada yada...
Jesus guy, did you even try to verify the rolls? Do it or gtfo.

LET THE WRATH OF l4r3f4c3 COMMENCE AND MAY THE PWNAGE BE MOST UNMERCIFUL AND RUTHLESS!   

Are you like 14y old and hang out on HF all day? You might want to grow some pubic hair first then..
dan
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newbie
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I'm pretty much convinced moneypot is a scam.   I've been playing the dice game all day running tests.   The odds are BS.    I have done nothing but lose, no matter what strategy I follow.

Keywords (for SEO):  Moneypot scam, Moneypot is rigged,  Moneypot is a criminal operation,  Moneypot is run by theives and con artists,  Moneypot ripped me off,  Moneypot stole my money,  Moneypot is not fair,   Moneypot sucks,  Moneypot screwed me over,  Moneypot is not legitimate,  Moneypot steals from players.


Here is a common scenario.   I had to bring my multiplier down to 1.24x just to get some green on the board.   Yet it's still hitting like 70% losses when it's supposed to be 80% wins.  So that's kind of a big discrepancy.

Sorry to let everyone know, but I'm going to make this public.   I don't think anyone should be scammed and ripped off, whether I'm making a profit off of them or not.

MONEYPOT is CHEATING its players.

I have experienced this on every MP dice site that I have played on.   Every one of them is a bullshit scam because MP is making the profit and the wager results come from MP.  And this whole proven fair thing is a joke.   So easy to fake its not even funny how stupid people think its air tight.

If the house edge is 1%,  how did I lose 50k bits yesterday after playing for like 10 - 20 minutes and only betting for like 100 - 300 chips per spin.   All on 50/50 or better odds and NOT GETTING THOSE ODDS if I'm losing 150x my wager amount in a matter of a few minutes.

Then I tried again on my own MP dice site running THIS software,   I lost 30k chips in about 10 minutes doing the same thing. 

This was over multiple buyins too.  I bought in for 3000 - 5000 bits each time and each time was ruined by this rigged game super quickly as i sat there in disbelief.  Being a computer programmer for my whole life,  I know a lot of math, and this math isn't adding up.

I then divested all, emptied my app wallet and put any remaining bits I had into one final attempt of about 13000 bits.    (at this point I'm down almost 80k bits in less than an hour only betting 100 - 300 mostly).   If MP would allow you to view your betting history, I could show you the proof, but I did not have logging set up as I trusted that the site would have histories available.   At the time I did not know it was a scam, but it now makes sense that these scumbags would not want you to be able to analyze your data and see how the BS odds they tell you are completely untrue.

So after losing close to 100k bits yesterday, I was talking to another operator and he was like, oh you just hit a run of bad luck.  So I thought, yeah, maybe, I guess, but not really.  I think more than anything I wanted to believe it was just a fluke because I was into this whole thing.   I even told the guy I don't even want to run anymore tests because I'm afraid of what I might find.   

But I did test more today, and like all things that seem like they are awesome,  this is another one of those.   Greedy criminal scumbags preying on people who just want to do a little gambling and have a little fun.  It's a rampant problem online and I'm pretty much fed up with it. 

Today I bought in with more bitcoin to MP.   This time I only did about 10k or so as I'm not going to keep throwing my money in the trash on this site.

I set the multi to 1.24 and began.   I immediately noticed I was getting raped hardcore.  I was only betting 10 bits at a time so as not to break the bank if I needed to 6x on a loss.   And if I somehow got 2 losses in a row, which is highly unlikely,  i would need to wager 36x  and so on.   So it could get pricey real quick.   I decided if I lost two in a row, I would not increase by 6, but just maintain the same 36x wager and hit it over and over as with 80% win rate, I should be able to recoup easily if I lose one or two.   NOT SO! 

Once I realized that wouldn't work when I'm hitting 5 in a row loss, 1 win,  3 in a row loss, 1 win,  2 in a row loss, 1 win.    If the odds of 80% win to 20% loss were correct, my strategy would have worked great.   It might not have made me rich, but it certainly wouldn't drain every last bit i have in a matter of minutes.  Like it did the last time I bought in, and the time before that, and the time before that, and the time before that.   So I really have about 100% certainty that MP is full of SHIT and  SCAM and a bunch of scumbags and criminals.

Other people using this exact strategy on non rigged dice games report great results.   On MP I report the same thing I do with any other strategy on MP on any game on MP =  Raped and screwed over in a scenario that's basically impossible to occur more than once in a lifetime,  and its happening over and over and over and over again in the same day.  Then the next day it happens over and over and over and over again.

If someone wants me to get into all the numbers and probablity and all that I will,  but all the numbskulls say the same thing...   Just a run of bad luck... you hit some rough variance.  BULLSHIT!   This is what people say who don't understand math, or are too lazy to do the calculations.

The whole system runs on numbers.   Numbers don't lie.   When it says my odds of winning are 79.84%,  in a non rigged system,  I can expect to see numbers close to that +/- about 2% margin for variance.    Not the case here.   I am seeing negative margins only, it has never ONCE gotten to the actual % that it's supposed to be paying out at,   and these margins are not 1 or 2 %,  no they are like 60%  ,  70%  THE WRONG WAY.   

To expect me to believe that from the moment I started wagering against MP,  I hit the worst luck streak in the history of the world,   and it continued non-stop for days on end without any letting up, just constant astronomically impossible bad luck,  well then you must think I just fell off the turnip truck yesterday.

It's too bad because I was really into this until I realized it's cheating players.    That won't affect me as an operator, I will still make money, but I have a little something called ethics and morals.  I don't just do whatever it takes to get money even if it means lying and cheating and ripping people off.  Thats what scum bag pieces of shit do, and I am a good person, not a scum bag piece of shit like the operators of MP.

Unfortunately for MP and all of you,  I have the skills, experience, and knowledge to take MP offline for good and hopefully, with any luck (haha get it),  obtain their BTC private keys and rob them blind like they did to me.   I have no qualms about taking back what a criminal stole from me, plus extra for my time that was wasted because of their lying cheating scamming asses.

I will  contact the scum at MP and if they compensate me for my lost wages and pay me my normal hourly rate for all of the hours i wasted on this over the last couple of days, I will just move along. 

However, they probably wont' and I will have to destroy them.  But even if they do pay me off to go away and keep quiet about this,  someone else will eventually come along and figure out the site is a scam and eventually one of those people will have the skills, experience, and knowledge to dispense justice in an appropriate black hat manner.

This is OUR internet.   It's not here for criminals to make a profit from.  I have not spent my entire career making the internet a better place, just to have scumbag criminals running amok on OUR NETWORK.   I do not do what I do day in and day out, and other like me do not do what they do day in and day out, dedicating our entire lives and careers to this thing we call the internet, just so some braindead cocksucker with no technical knowledge at all can set up a scam website and get rich of of deceiving and cheating people.   Sorry, no sir,  MP you had some bad luck when I found your site, because that was the beginning of the end for you.

Let this be a warning to anyone else thinking of getting set up with MP.  Don't do it.  It's criminals and if they are ripping off the players, they will probably end up ripping off the operators at some point too and probably the investors too.  I couldn't help but notice how many disclaimers and notices they have about 'don't expect to get your investment back'.   Read between the lines:  "Because we clean out the profits and keep em for ourselves every once in a while, and snag all the investor money too suckers!"

LET THE WRATH OF l4r3f4c3 COMMENCE AND MAY THE PWNAGE BE MOST UNMERCIFUL AND RUTHLESS!   


Screenshot:

Here is the SS of my last 10 hands of dice at 1.24 multiplier.  This is basically how it went over the course of 500+ rolls. 

http://inceptz.com/img/ss-moneypotisascam.PNG
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
Hi, I've been playing around with this for a couple days.   One, my faucet just says "loading"  what am I doing wrong?    Undecided

Also, can you tell me what file in the source code the endpoint is being set and the betting logic actually takes place?   Is that socket.io.js?

Thanks for providing this,  it's a great starting point for building any type of other app because it has the oauth stuff and the proven fair encryption/transaction all set up and that's probably the most time consuming part.

Thanks again for any help you can provide on the faucet and my main concern is finding the end point so i can create a custom bet.   That is what I'm basically trying to do, as I think the only bet type currently is simple_dice if I'm not mistaken.



For your faucet problem, you probably didn't enter the domain's proper secret for Google Recaptcha

You don't know me, why would you assume I'm a moron?  Do you think I would come on here and post in a forum asking for help before I checked for typos?

Not trying to be rude but you kind of insult my intelligence when you don't even know me.   You shouldn't assume everyone posting in a forum is a moron because they have a question.   

How did I assume that you're a moron? I was trying to give you a legit solution, since it's happened to a number of people.
You're obviously probably extremely mentally challenged, in conclusion from your reply.



Well let's see here, super smart tough guy,  You said to me  "You probably didn't enter the proper secret key ..."    You did not say "The issue might be that you typo'd or have the incorrect key in the incorrect place"  You said  "You probably didn't enter the proper key etc..."     So you are automatically assuming I am so stupid that I cannot follow very very simple step by step directions that were given to me by google.   And also that I am so stupid I am unable to figure out how to copy paste a string correctly.   

I said I wasn't trying to be rude, but that you were insulting my intelligence with your statement.  Normally I would just ignore you, but since I knew you were trying to help, I figured I would give you some advice on how not to insult and/or offend people.

Of course, being the super smart tough guy you are,  you respond with insults because you have no further depth to your character.   Do the world a favor and go play in traffic.   Or go to Yahoo Answers,  they seem to love 'capt'n obvious' type answers to questions.   You'll get voted up all day if you just say the most obvious, simple, easiest answer that anyone would have tried before posting on a website about it.   And you can preface all your answers with "I don't really know anything about this,  but my best guess would be.. "   Guaranteed to get you the "best answer" title on YA.   

However,  as for this thread and my question,  I have been programming computers for over 20 years,   I know more computer languages than you've probably read books in your life.  I have been doing full time web development for over 10 years and am the top of my field with regards to talent, experience, knowledge of current technology and best practices, bullet proof security policies, and being able to do the jobs that no one else can figure out.   

So you can be assured that anything you can think of, I've tried,  I was posting this question to the developer of the app, as that person is a programmer who knows exactly how the program works and is not just wasting time posting answers that anyone with half a brain would already have tried.

But you seem REALLY smart and SUPER mature, so I'm sure you'll go far my friend, just do it somewhere far away from me.

Thanks

legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
Hi, I've been playing around with this for a couple days.   One, my faucet just says "loading"  what am I doing wrong?    Undecided

Also, can you tell me what file in the source code the endpoint is being set and the betting logic actually takes place?   Is that socket.io.js?

Thanks for providing this,  it's a great starting point for building any type of other app because it has the oauth stuff and the proven fair encryption/transaction all set up and that's probably the most time consuming part.

Thanks again for any help you can provide on the faucet and my main concern is finding the end point so i can create a custom bet.   That is what I'm basically trying to do, as I think the only bet type currently is simple_dice if I'm not mistaken.



For your faucet problem, you probably didn't enter the domain's proper secret for Google Recaptcha

You don't know me, why would you assume I'm a moron?  Do you think I would come on here and post in a forum asking for help before I checked for typos?

Not trying to be rude but you kind of insult my intelligence when you don't even know me.   You shouldn't assume everyone posting in a forum is a moron because they have a question.   

How did I assume that you're a moron? I was trying to give you a legit solution, since it's happened to a number of people.
You're obviously probably extremely mentally challenged, in conclusion from your reply.

newbie
Activity: 51
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Hi, I've been playing around with this for a couple days.   One, my faucet just says "loading"  what am I doing wrong?    Undecided

Also, can you tell me what file in the source code the endpoint is being set and the betting logic actually takes place?   Is that socket.io.js?

Thanks for providing this,  it's a great starting point for building any type of other app because it has the oauth stuff and the proven fair encryption/transaction all set up and that's probably the most time consuming part.

Thanks again for any help you can provide on the faucet and my main concern is finding the end point so i can create a custom bet.   That is what I'm basically trying to do, as I think the only bet type currently is simple_dice if I'm not mistaken.



For your faucet problem, you probably didn't enter the domain's proper secret for Google Recaptcha

You don't know me, why would you assume I'm a moron?  Do you think I would come on here and post in a forum asking for help before I checked for typos?

Not trying to be rude but you kind of insult my intelligence when you don't even know me.   You shouldn't assume everyone posting in a forum is a moron because they have a question.   
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
Hi, I've been playing around with this for a couple days.   One, my faucet just says "loading"  what am I doing wrong?    Undecided

Also, can you tell me what file in the source code the endpoint is being set and the betting logic actually takes place?   Is that socket.io.js?

Thanks for providing this,  it's a great starting point for building any type of other app because it has the oauth stuff and the proven fair encryption/transaction all set up and that's probably the most time consuming part.

Thanks again for any help you can provide on the faucet and my main concern is finding the end point so i can create a custom bet.   That is what I'm basically trying to do, as I think the only bet type currently is simple_dice if I'm not mistaken.



For your faucet problem, you probably didn't enter the domain's proper secret for Google Recaptcha
newbie
Activity: 51
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Hi, I've been playing around with this for a couple days.   One, my faucet just says "loading"  what am I doing wrong?    Undecided

Also, can you tell me what file in the source code the endpoint is being set and the betting logic actually takes place?   Is that socket.io.js?

Thanks for providing this,  it's a great starting point for building any type of other app because it has the oauth stuff and the proven fair encryption/transaction all set up and that's probably the most time consuming part.

Thanks again for any help you can provide on the faucet and my main concern is finding the end point so i can create a custom bet.   That is what I'm basically trying to do, as I think the only bet type currently is simple_dice if I'm not mistaken.

dan
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what do I miss here? how can an app owner not use the MP bank roll?

RHavar has said that he wants to build an API for bets that cannot be provably fair like if you wanted to build a sports-betting casino on top of Moneypot.

At which point only the provably fair API would bet against the investors (the bankroll) and the unprovably fair API would not.
legendary
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Wow you have certainly put quite a bit of effort into this project, awesome that you're just releasing it for free.
The though of running my own dice website never crossed my mind tbh, but I will have a go at it with this though.
elm
legendary
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Could you maybe elaborate in detail how the profits between the site owner and Moneypot is split?

Let's say user X deposits 1 BTC and loses it, user Y deposits 1 BTC, wins 4 BTC and then withdraws his 5 BTC total to his wallet.
How is it split in this easy example?

They have info on this in the FAQ
https://www.moneypot.com/faq

How much do you charge?
MoneyPot is 100% free, both for users and app developers. On all bets against our bankroll we do take a 50% share of all profit you make.

what do I miss here? how can an app owner not use the MP bank roll?
legendary
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Could you maybe elaborate in detail how the profits between the site owner and Moneypot is split?

Let's say user X deposits 1 BTC and loses it, user Y deposits 1 BTC, wins 4 BTC and then withdraws his 5 BTC total to his wallet.
How is it split in this easy example?

They have info on this in the FAQ
https://www.moneypot.com/faq

How much do you charge?
MoneyPot is 100% free, both for users and app developers. On all bets against our bankroll we do take a 50% share of all profit you make.
newbie
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Could you maybe elaborate in detail how the profits between the site owner and Moneypot is split?

Let's say user X deposits 1 BTC and loses it, user Y deposits 1 BTC, wins 4 BTC and then withdraws his 5 BTC total to his wallet.
How is it split in this easy example?
dan
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Activity: 50
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Very nice! Good update IMO, I think some people were confused about having to refresh to see their updated balance after a deposit.
Keep up the good work guys!

Thanks! Agreed, it's a much smoother experience now that your deposits are instantly acknowledged in the UI.

Experimental Update: Added an "All Bets" tab

Also started playing with a more visual interpretation of the roll and outcome:

https://i.imgur.com/1Le8iZB.png

I still have some more work to do like populating the All Bets tab when Untitled-Dice loads (done) and replicating the visual outcome in the My Bets tab.

I'll release the polished version in v0.0.9 soon.

I released v0.0.8 last night which adds the house edge to the configuration options at the top of app.js since it was such a common feature request. For example: https://github.com/untitled-dice/untitled-dice.github.io/issues/3
legendary
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Very nice! Good update IMO, I think some people were confused about having to refresh to see their updated balance after a deposit.
Keep up the good work guys!
dan
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v0.0.7 Release: Hooked up Moneypot's new socket/chat server

Moneypot just released a new socket-server which includes a better chat-server and pushes notifications when the user's unconfirmed and confirmed balances change.

This update doesn't change very many lines of code since the new chat-server has an almost identical API to the old one. If you want to check it out or if you want to implement this update on your own Untitled-Dice variant, you can see the changes here: https://github.com/untitled-dice/untitled-dice.github.io/commit/2e5a03fa0c683ab6f35fe7246ab538aa18f3cabd

What this changes about Untitled-Dice:

  • Chat messages are now saved in Moneypot's database and not forgotten when the chat-server resets.
  • Muted users are now saved in Moneypot's database and not forgotten when the chat-server resets.
  • The UI now instantly updates to reflect the user's unconfirmed balance and when the user's deposit is confirmed and ready to spend.

    For example, as soon as the user makes a bitcoin deposit to your app, Untitled-Dice displays it:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/quq37nq1583x0lf/-vxm59n-.png

    And once a block confirms the deposit, Untitled-Dice rolls it into the user's balance:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/quq37nq1583x0lf/1xv64a03.png

    In other words, users get instant peace of mind when they deposit into your app.
  • Mods now actually have /mute and /unmute power. With the previous chat-server, mods were powerless. Cheesy
  • HH:MM timestamps are now displayed next to chat messages: https://i.imgur.com/fAZ8FrQ.png
legendary
Activity: 1008
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I put a script up at neodice.ga, it would be great if you could take a look and give me feedback!  (There is a rudimentary XP feature, if you have any ideas feel free to PM me)
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1186
1500+ files are in the ".git" directory that Git creates whenever you clone a project. This folder contains all of the revisions made to a project over time and is only necessary for development purposes, so avoid pushing it to your production server.

Thanks for that explanation Dan, I was wondering why there were so many files included when I cloned it on github.
dan
newbie
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SOLVED, it appears the issue was with my server and not this script. Since there is over 1,000 files it took longer to delete than my FTP manager lead me to believe.  Why does this app have over 1,000 files? Seems like a bit much for a site that just uses moneypot API. API is supposed to make things lightweight...

Untitled Dice consists of three files (app.js, index.html, style.css) and about a dozen dependency files found in the vendor and node_modules folders. The rest of those files are nonessential cruft managed by Git and its package manager.

1500+ files are in the ".git" directory that Git creates whenever you clone a project. This folder contains all of the revisions made to a project over time and is only necessary for development purposes, so avoid pushing it to your production server.

1000+ files are in the "node_modules" directory. Untitled Dice uses a package manager called NPM to maintain that folder of dependencies. Even though Untitled Dice only uses 9 files within that folder, the NPM tool populates it with all the development files that each dependency comes with. You can see the actual files that Untitled Dice depends on right here: https://github.com/untitled-dice/untitled-dice.github.io/blob/master/index.html

One quick solution would be to zip the untitled-dice directory, FTP it to your server, and then unzip it there.

I'll look into isolating Untitled Dice's dependencies to make life easier for this workflow. Smiley
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