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Quote from: TheQuin on November 11, 2019, 07:13:26 PM

If your account was inactive for a while we will have sent you a "We miss you..." offering you 1000 sats after you come back and complete 10 free rolls.

From now on I am mad at freebitcoin and will not be coming back again!! Why don't we get free 1000 satoshi as well Cheesy

. It is unfair that people who support you and bring you affiliates and (of course make money ourselves too but made you money too) enter your contests etc get nothing but people who left gets free rolls and free money! It is unfair! Thankfully all my money is in 4% so I can't go too further, eventually I comeback to collect my profits and go out time to time with that money Cheesy

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Aside from that I am fully expecting (not even a joke now) freebitcoin to do something nice for the people who have done "x thing 7 days in a row" type of deal because if you are rewarding people who leave and not people who stay that kinda means you want us to leave a bit before we come back. Do you... do you want to take a break? Cheesy

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Quote from: davinchi on November 11, 2019, 01:34:27 PM

There are bots that are very very cheap that solves captcha for you these days, I am sure the prevention doesn't come from captcha but from something else, hell I literally haven't solved captcha on this website for months now, I suppose when you solve enough of it the system makes you a person that is "human" and then you can use bots.

I don't know the ways they can go around and even if I did I wouldn't share it here for the reason that bad people may use it but in the end captcha itself is not enough, sure it is still better than not having it, not having it would result with a lot more trouble but see it as like a castle and captcha as it is walls, just because there is walls doesn't mean it will never be broken but surely it is better than not having any walls.

Like Darkstar_ has mentioned before, I guess Google checks your IP and if you IP is "clean" then you most likely will get an easy form of Captcha or maybe it will let you bypass the captcha since its the same IP used on the same website before.

However the captcha solvers are either somewhere in 3rd world countries or they use some form of VPN and they get the more sophisticated captcha's. If you are ever bored go and find those "Captcha solver jobs" that pay like $0.50/hour and you will see that the captcha's you are given there to solve will be much more complex, basically I did it out of boredom once and it took almost 30 seconds to solve those captcha's compared to the regular capcha's we see everyday which takes like 5 seconds to solve.

So the captcha's for the bots are sophisticated but there is still abuse on casinos and faucets. This is why many sites rather just have some promos because that way more of the "faucet funds" is redirected to the loyal members of the website and not to someone who joins the site, never makes a deposit and just tries to profit off the faucet.

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Quote from: TheQuin on November 11, 2019, 07:13:26 PM

Check your emails. If your account was inactive for a while we will have sent you a "We miss you..." offering you 1000 sats after you come back and complete 10 free rolls.

Aww, that's so nice. That reminds me of those casino sites that offer email bonuses during special events.

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Quote from: Battareus on November 11, 2019, 09:49:28 AM

Today I have found additional 1000 satoshi at my balance as I understand it is some kind of bonus? How to determine where it came from? Searches for Dice history (because the last games I did with high risk), lottery tickets and so on do not help. It would be nice to have a section where you can see all the operations of receipt and flow.

Check your emails. If your account was inactive for a while we will have sent you a "We miss you..." offering you 1000 sats after you come back and complete 10 free rolls.

Quote from: STT on November 11, 2019, 11:24:05 AM

Is there a politics event bet for the UK election, hopefully it will be big enough event to get interest and bets on it going, the potential for wild card outcomes I think is maybe higher then ever before. Volatility is a bull market Cool

Not yet but good idea.

Quote from: davinchi on November 11, 2019, 01:34:27 PM

There are bots that are very very cheap that solves captcha for you these days, I am sure the prevention doesn't come from captcha but from something else, hell I literally haven't solved captcha on this website for months now, I suppose when you solve enough of it the system makes you a person that is "human" and then you can use bots.

I don't know the ways they can go around and even if I did I wouldn't share it here for the reason that bad people may use it but in the end captcha itself is not enough, sure it is still better than not having it, not having it would result with a lot more trouble but see it as like a castle and captcha as it is walls, just because there is walls doesn't mean it will never be broken but surely it is better than not having any walls.

You're right, captcha is a very small part of the defences. Without it abuse would be so easy everyone would try it but it doesn't stop the determined thief. Kprawn was on the right lines. Manually reviewing withdrawal requests is the most effective way of combatting abuse.

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There are bots that are very very cheap that solves captcha for you these days, I am sure the prevention doesn't come from captcha but from something else, hell I literally haven't solved captcha on this website for months now, I suppose when you solve enough of it the system makes you a person that is "human" and then you can use bots.

I don't know the ways they can go around and even if I did I wouldn't share it here for the reason that bad people may use it but in the end captcha itself is not enough, sure it is still better than not having it, not having it would result with a lot more trouble but see it as like a castle and captcha as it is walls, just because there is walls doesn't mean it will never be broken but surely it is better than not having any walls.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on November 11, 2019, 03:41:37 AM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on November 11, 2019, 01:14:45 AM

Quote from: adaseb on November 11, 2019, 01:04:55 AM

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

Once I had my own faucets and gave up running them just because of the endless fight with continuous modernization of security. About once every two weeks, someone was cleaning the faucet's address. Not only the captcha was bypassed. Hackers found ways to bypass waiting time, they was finding some backdoors in script. Something new every time. I just lost my patience.
Ps. On other hand, I'm not a programmer, so I used other people's scripts. At one point I was almost sure that people were writing scripts for faucets with backdoors, only to steal from them later. But that is other story..

Running a faucet, exchange, online casino... etc is serious business.

People see all these casinos/exchanges like freebitco.in, primedice, binance making lots of money but there is a reason for that. Not everybody can do it. If it was that easy, then everybody would do it and nobody would make any money. Supply and demand as always.

In your situation though... running a free script? These people put them there just so they can hack your business later. You either code it yourself or hire someone for the job. Either way it is never easy or cheap.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on November 11, 2019, 03:41:37 AM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on November 11, 2019, 01:14:45 AM

Quote from: adaseb on November 11, 2019, 01:04:55 AM

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

Once I had my own faucets and gave up running them just because of the endless fight with continuous modernization of security. About once every two weeks, someone was cleaning the faucet's address. Not only the captcha was bypassed. Hackers found ways to bypass waiting time, they was finding some backdoors in script. Something new every time. I just lost my patience.
Ps. On other hand, I'm not a programmer, so I used other people's scripts. At one point I was almost sure that people were writing scripts for faucets with backdoors, only to steal from them later. But that is other story..

I was a forum moderator for a popular Bitcoin forum where people got paid for activity and it was a endless task to stop these bots. In the end,

we had to stop the automatic payment option and we had to implement a internal database that needed manual verification process to grant

approval of all the withdrawals to manage this risk. It became too time consuming to do this manually, so we stopped the "paid to post" option.

I take my hat off to sites that has to go through all this effort to automate payment/faucet options and to battle all these bots on a daily basis.

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I was going to say if computers cannot solve the picture recognition thing then machine learning and all that stuff is not as advanced as I thought it had got to. Not that I think scammers are using cutting edge technology but it usually relates some.
One day they'll reach a point where it'll break my old .rar file password Tongue

The full ascii range and possible 12 characters I guess might need that new quantum computer.
The only big faucet I've seen recently would be in brand new alt coins and thats because they want users just like BTC did all those years ago. The possibility to pass from one extreme to the other was enough to buy a Lambo at one point when done over years, collecting a coin at its cheapest and selling at its highest. ETH mining was ridiculous if somehow it was done perfectly, part of history now.

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The 2019 United Kingdom general election will be held under the provisions of the Early Parliamentary General Election Act 2019 on Thursday 12 December 2019, two and a half years after the previous general election in June 2017. It will be the first UK general election to be held in December since 1923.

Is there a politics event bet for the UK election, hopefully it will be big enough event to get interest and bets on it going, the potential for wild card outcomes I think is maybe higher then ever before. Volatility is a bull market Cool

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Quote from: keyscore44 on November 11, 2019, 03:41:37 AM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on November 11, 2019, 01:14:45 AM

Quote from: adaseb on November 11, 2019, 01:04:55 AM

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

Once I had my own faucets and gave up running them just because of the endless fight with continuous modernization of security. About once every two weeks, someone was cleaning the faucet's address. Not only the captcha was bypassed. Hackers found ways to bypass waiting time, they was finding some backdoors in script. Something new every time. I just lost my patience.
Ps. On other hand, I'm not a programmer, so I used other people's scripts. At one point I was almost sure that people were writing scripts for faucets with backdoors, only to steal from them later. But that is other story..

Maybe it's not. I think it is very likely that the very people who were writing scripts for you were cleaning out your faucets later. You shouldn't hire random people for that kind of job. They should be either your close friends or people who are working for a very well known and reputable company. And the latter option is much more preferable, imo. Also, being not a coder, after the script is done, I would give it to a third party to check it for backdoors. But that's what I'd do if I weren't aware of freebitco.in's existence. I think the easiest way to get a good faucet script is to ask TheQuin, who were the people that wrote script for them, and order it from the same place.

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Today I have found additional 1000 satoshi at my balance as I understand it is some kind of bonus? How to determine where it came from? Searches for Dice history (because the last games I did with high risk), lottery tickets and so on do not help. It would be nice to have a section where you can see all the operations of receipt and flow.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on November 11, 2019, 01:14:45 AM

Quote from: adaseb on November 11, 2019, 01:04:55 AM

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

Once I had my own faucets and gave up running them just because of the endless fight with continuous modernization of security. About once every two weeks, someone was cleaning the faucet's address. Not only the captcha was bypassed. Hackers found ways to bypass waiting time, they was finding some backdoors in script. Something new every time. I just lost my patience.
Ps. On other hand, I'm not a programmer, so I used other people's scripts. At one point I was almost sure that people were writing scripts for faucets with backdoors, only to steal from them later. But that is other story..

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Quote from: UserU on November 11, 2019, 01:29:03 AM

Are you guys using reCAPTCHA v3? If so, how does it fare comparing to v2?

Yes. It's completely different as it doesn't give a challenge. Google just give a score based on their risk assessment. It isn't accurate enough to be much use.

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Quote from: TheQuin on November 11, 2019, 01:09:50 AM

Quote from: adaseb on November 11, 2019, 01:04:55 AM

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

I wish that was true but unfortunately, Google have shot their own reCaptcha to pieces by pioneering picture recognition technology. There are still a lot 3rd world captcha solving farms using humans but the more sophisticated bots can solve them automatically.
Captcha is only an obstacle to small scale amateur abusers.

Are you guys using reCAPTCHA v3? If so, how does it fare comparing to v2?

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Quote from: adaseb on November 11, 2019, 01:04:55 AM

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

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Quote from: adaseb on November 11, 2019, 01:04:55 AM

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

I wish that was true but unfortunately, Google have shot their own reCaptcha to pieces by pioneering picture recognition technology. There are still a lot 3rd world captcha solving farms using humans but the more sophisticated bots can solve them automatically.
Captcha is only an obstacle to small scale amateur abusers.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on November 10, 2019, 04:18:30 PM

Quote from: ahmadakbari on November 10, 2019, 12:25:06 PM

For getting faucet, you should pass the captcha. I don't think bots are able to pass captcha. So, abusing the system is not as easy as you think.

This is what person not very familiar with faucets will say. All faucets have captcha, but they are struggling to fight with bots. These abusers are smarter than many of you may think. I don't know how exactly they are doing this dirty job, but captcha isn't always a problem. Faucet owners (including Freebitco.in) must add much more security features and it still can't protect faucet 100%

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

How does the casino faucet abuse happen? It's because it's actually humans that solve the captcha for the bots.

Due to low wages in certain countries there are people who are solving captcha's for $0.50-$1.00/hr and the solved captcha is sent to the bots which abuse the faucet in the casino.

Hence this is why so many casino operators just removed the faucet all together or decreased it to a very small amount like 10 sats which wouldn't be worth the hassle to abuse.

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Quote from: docthusinh on November 10, 2019, 10:24:07 PM

Beside the abusing of free dogecoin, they key issue is that it doesn't have those wagering bonuses and there is variable betsize (binded into DOGE/BTC price) as well as limited MAX win there, 800,000 DOGE by the last time visited the site. I once tried to write a dicing bot for it, but risk/reward ratio is not as expected (for the same strategy, a specified balance can't survive as long as if it is converted to BTC and played in the main site) as well as minimum bet size keep changing throughout the day (0.026 -> 0.03). If they are to make it interesting for gamblers and fixed the minimum betsize & max win, they can easily get out with profit regardless of abusers.

The issues with Doge are the amount of time it takes to fight abuse. It's a labour-intensive task and the profits didn't justify the costs. The other limiting factor is the Doge core software. It hasn't been maintained and updated as the Bitcoin core software has. That means that our node struggled to deal with the volume of transactions we were doing making it frequently lag the network causing support issues. If we had done anything to try and increase the volume on the site that would have just got worse.

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Quote from: UserU on November 10, 2019, 09:43:53 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on November 10, 2019, 04:18:30 PM

This is what person not very familiar with faucets will say. All faucets have captcha, but they are struggling to fight with bots. These abusers are smarter than many of you may think. I don't know how exactly they are doing this dirty job, but captcha isn't always a problem. Faucet owners (including Freebitco.in) must add much more security features and it still can't protect faucet 100%

Sadly they had to shut down freedogecoin because of this.

Beside the abusing of free dogecoin, they key issue is that it doesn't have those wagering bonuses and there is variable betsize (binded into DOGE/BTC price) as well as limited MAX win there, 800,000 DOGE by the last time visited the site. I once tried to write a dicing bot for it, but risk/reward ratio is not as expected (for the same strategy, a specified balance can't survive as long as if it is converted to BTC and played in the main site) as well as minimum bet size keep changing throughout the day (0.026 -> 0.03). If they are to make it interesting for gamblers and fixed the minimum betsize & max win, they can easily get out with profit regardless of abusers.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on November 10, 2019, 04:18:30 PM

This is what person not very familiar with faucets will say. All faucets have captcha, but they are struggling to fight with bots. These abusers are smarter than many of you may think. I don't know how exactly they are doing this dirty job, but captcha isn't always a problem. Faucet owners (including Freebitco.in) must add much more security features and it still can't protect faucet 100%

Sadly they had to shut down freedogecoin because of this.

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