Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 1106. (Read 566886 times)

Hey quin, I deposited some coins after the golden ticket promotion has ended, naturally didn't get any golden tickets. Will there be again a promotion like that? If I move my coins out and in again will I be getting credited golden lambo tickets?

The house edge is the difference between the true odds and the odds that the casino pays you when you win. Casinos does not have to cheat to make money, in the long run, the casino will win on negative expectation games. 

The sole purpose of a house edge is to ensure that gambling site have a long-term advantage over their customers, this is necessary for the continued operation of any casino. If they do not do this, they will make no profit and they will have to close their doors.

So, even if your so-called bot is successful, it would eventually run out of money, because the house always win. 

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This is the freebitco.in thread. Please try and stay on-topic.

Of course, in a simplified world an else statement or a try-catch block fixes any error
But you hit the nail, as soon as the casino knows that something abnormal is going on they simply can deal with the situation accordingly.

The conversation you quoted has nothing to do with withdrawing. The question was about the low wagering reduction that reduces the reward on the lowest tier on the free roll payout table. If you have the low wagering reduction there is an i for information next to it telling you how to get back to full base reward.

As well as your balance the ratio of how much you wager against free winnings is also taken into account so most people will need less than $50.

Or the more logical answer:  usleep(x) which is what every online site will do,  casino or not.  Others will opt to use cloudflare which essentially does the same thing (FBC uses cloudflare).  Then if the queue fills up to much, you'll start receiving 503 errors (service unavailable,  aka server busy) which happens A LOT with FBC due to the cloudflare front end which is easily overloaded.  There is a multitude of ways to handle a flood of incoming data,  these are but a few of the more common methods.  These are visible with my bot in the form of strange pauses in the middle of a session.  Sometimes you'll see it pause for a few seconds.  These are caused by the 503 errors when the FBC server is overloaded.  It accounts for this and simply keeps retrying the bet until it succeeds.  Once it succeeds,  thats when you see the output.  It wont output anything until the bet succeeds.  Seeing these types of errors isnt useful for anything and just clutter up the screen if the bot were to display them all.

Don't you think the casino owners don't have a catch there? If anything abnormal or the server can't process the bet due to heavy load, they just simply put it in a CATCH or ELSE statement and return a BLANK result (server doesn't accept bet, try again) or LOSE result (you lose, give me your coin) or worst return a HTTP 503/504 result without any response.

The way requests are processed has literally nothing to do with manipulation safety. If this would be the case any online casino would be automatically unabusable. Thats simply not the case.
Imagine a glitch in the server side code which doesnt deal correctly with parallel executions or under heavy load when a bot sends like 20 requests per second.

Now you are starting to catch on!  Can someone tell me how long a human lives?  Is it "Infinity"?  Yes?  No?  Maybe?  The reason this fact is important is because the ONLY situation where the bot will lose 100% is if you will live for infinity to see that come true.  Until such time as that happens,  you will only be able to witness the bot winning AND losing.  Not just losing.  So,  if you know it'll take about X amount of years (say 500yrs) for it to reach that big loss,  why do you even care.  I know I sure dont.  And I prove this each and every day,  24/7,  live for everyone to see.  Yet not a single person who thinks this is impossible ever takes that proof into account.  Where?  Because it proves thems 100% wrong thats why.  Like I said before bots do not WIN 100% of the time,  but they dont LOSE 100% of the time either.  A bot is not a magic wand.  It's a TOOL.  If you use the tool correctly,  you WILL be successful, regardless of what all the drones who think everyone lives to infinity says.


Hi drone!  Nice to meet you.  BTW,  you are 100% WRONG drone!  A house edge's purpose has never changed,  it was NEVER to "make money".  Back in the day (before online casinos) it was to protect itself against players with a lot of TIME for games that had short durations and thats all it is. Thats all a house edge ever did,  but house edges were extremely low.  0.5%, 0.25%,  0.75%,  etc.  Some games didnt even HAVE a house edge simply because the games themselves took so long to complete.  Blackjack for example takes a long time to complete,  a game of blackjack isnt over until you've gone through the entire deck,  even today its still one of the lowest house edge games you can play at a brick and mortar casino,  online is a lot different for blackjack,  you should NEVER play online blackjack because the game never actually ends.  Today is 2019 though.  Today house edges protect against people with bots and large bank rolls.  This is why house edges today are MUCH larger than they were back in the day at a real casino.  If you think a house edge is "to make money",  it just goes to show that you dont know anything about how gambling actually works nor it's history.  Time is a VERY important factor.  Back in 1970,  you couldnt sit at a table 24/7 unless you were somehow inhuman and didnt need rest, sleep, or food.  Houses knew this,  and thus they knew that X house edge would be sufficient.  The same is NOT true when dealing with bots online.  So you need a MUCH higher house edge to protect against them.  The first person who tells you that a house edge is for ANYTHING ELSE,  is a complete LIAR.  There is a MASSIVE difference between a house edge of 1% and a house edge of 1.5% let alone 5%.  But unless the house uses an edge of 51%,  beating bots completely simply isnt possible.  All it does is raise the bankroll requirement to be successful.  But no casino is ever going to be able to convince anyone to play at such a high edge.  Ever.  Although I'd like to see one try.

Put simply,  a house edge is a TIME mechanism and has nothing to do with making anything.  You can make money with a 0% house edge if you have more time than the player.  That is mathematically provable.  Until you understand this VERY simple fact,  you'll never be able to comprehend why my bot is so successful on my live stream.  Also,  you could have known ALL of this if you had simply googled "house edge".  It would have told you,  and I quote:  "The House Edge is a term used to describe the mathematical advantage that the gambling game, and therefore the commercial gambling venue, has over you as you play over time. ".  But alas you're just a drone.  Drones dont have the capacity to think for themselves and they only believe what the salesman tells them.

Another way to prove that a house edge is not for "making money" is to consider the PLETHORA of 0% house edge casinos that exist.  There are even some online (BetVoyager, Edgeless,  etc) that you can use.  A house edge ABSOLUTELY IS NOT for "making money".  Never was,  never will be.  It's a TIME mechanism.  However,  when selecting an online casino for a bot,  house edge is not really a concern unless it's obscenely high (over 10%).  The time that a bot provides you outweights what most house edge's are set at anyway.  Casinos usually protect against bots using other methods.  The only exception to that rule that I have found so far is FBC although I'm always on the lookout for other options.  Likely because they dont realize what the real point of a house edge is and maybe they are attempting to use it as "a way to make money" which isnt what a house edge is supposed to be used for.  One can use it to "make money",  but that isnt it's actual real purpose.  Just like a bot can be used to calculate what to roll next,  that isnt it's real purpose.  If you use a bot just for its calculations,  you're likely to fail.  A bots purpose is a tool of time and persistence.

How is the betting side of it going? I think I never played there yet, maybe I tested out early on when it first started but I am not even sure about that, I have been using freebitcoin for mainly my affiliates because I am getting paid a small amount (like covering my cigarette expenses for a month for example) and sometimes I gamble on dice (hi/lo?) and of course I get lottery tickets every week thanks to free faucet claims of my affiliates and all that but when it comes to betting I never really given it a chance.

I don't know why I haven't tried yet but the website grew so big that I can't catch up with every single new thing now like we already have too many stuff that we do on this one single website, I am not sure if I want to add betting on top of that, I am about to spend 12 hours a day on this website if I spend any more time on it .

If bitcoin goes higher, yes one day it will be 1 sat.

You can only get the 20 sat bonus if you deposit ~$50 worth of coins to your account. You get interest payments too. It is a win/win.

i am getting only 7 satoshi from faucet, is it permanent drop and will still be dropping to 1 sat? i dont think im going ever archieve that 20 sat bonus

This statement is not correct, the site process the bet internally and return result (read only) to user end (you use GET command not a SET command to interact with their server).
Basically all bots available today have their own "Simulation" mode in which kind of provably fair system is written for the users to test on...and the mandatory thing is the site need to be provably fair!

Your statement is like 100 years ago when people said that we can't fly...but then the airplaine is out...lol.

It's basically belong to martingale category but fit to a dual exponential curves (cummulative earned balance vs highest commulative lost balance of a rare streak). If you managed to test/simulate a very large samples (well if you ever tested at least few hundred millions bets) with a suitable calculation you will find out that it take quite long to lose entire balance (original + earned) or cannot win back more than it cost (due to capped 20btc max win), my mark is 200 millions bets (around 3 months of test which roundly 1.5 year if playing for real) and there is high chance to win since a few percent of test sessions (multiple sets of 200 millions bets) reach that event (lost), but majority of them don't reach (aka cummulative lost balance of a bad streak < 20BTC). The test here is that you write your own code of provably fair number generator and test/simulate against it.

Of course it can, but only if there is a serious bug at Freebitco.ins side and the bot abuses this bug. What would happen is that users of those bot would be detected because their winning chance is way higher than the average player and get banned.
So this guy makes promises he fails to proof and simply scams people.

I think he gets paid to protect the users of Freebitco.in from scammers that claim that they have software that would guarantee them winnings from the site that would never happen with this bot. A provably fair site like Freebitco.in can never have a specific algorithm that can be exploited by bots, to guarantee some winning solution. 

TheQuin just want to protect gullible people that might fall for this scam and the scammer do not want to accept defeat. Having a house edge, is just how casinos make their money, it is not some kind of scam. 

It isn't. It is just a modification of Martingale and it has all the same drawbacks which is why given a large enough sample size it will end up losing.

But how is it different than martingale then with someone having a very large balance. If you are betting 0.01 BTC on martingale using 50/50 and your total balance is 1 BTC, you will go bust very fast. However if you are betting 0.00000001 BTC per bet with a balance of 1000 BTC then it would take a very long time to go bust. Basically it can take years and the bot would seem like its effective when it fact it just didn't have a long enough timeline.

I don't know how his bot works but I know that with a house edge is very difficult to make any money with a bot. The bot might be in profit for a few months but then eventually it will reach a streak where it loses the entire balance. Similiar to the way people bust their entire BTC wallets when doing martingale and getting 15 reds in a row.

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