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Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 1244. (Read 559846 times)

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As no one knows the "Ticket Number" which was alooted to him, the game can be easily riggged.
I'm not sure but I think these "Ticket Number" will be published along with the future bitcoin block number
I will post back here when I found the references,
but probably TheQuin keeps the info handy and can give you links and more details on it

edit: found it, one page back
We publish on Twitter a file that contains the number of the block that the hash will provide the client seed. That file also includes the server seed and ticket list. That's everything you need to verify the result.
What I am saying is that the ticket list can be easily manupulated by alloting the winning ticket to such an account that is either held by freebitco.in itself or is inactive since long time(there are thousands of such accounts at regular intervals).

So even if they assort the userids in ascending order and give tickets accordingly, still they have scope left for increasing the number of tickets of their favoured userid to win the lottery.
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As no one knows the "Ticket Number" which was alooted to him, the game can be easily riggged.
I'm not sure but I think these "Ticket Number" will be published along with the future bitcoin block number
I will post back here when I found the references,
but probably TheQuin keeps the info handy and can give you links and more details on it

edit: found it, one page back
We publish on Twitter a file that contains the number of the block that the hash will provide the client seed. That file also includes the server seed and ticket list. That's everything you need to verify the result.
hero member
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can someone please explain how is the freebitco.in lottery fool proof?


Can you explain how we can predict the hash of a Bitcoin block that hasn't been mined yet?

You can't predict the outcome of the hash, but as soon as it comes out, you can allot the winning tickets to your own accounts within a matter of second ones the block cokes out.

As no one knows the "Ticket Number" which was alooted to him, the game can be easily riggged.
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
Thanks TheQuin for the fast answer. I never worked before with 2FA but will activate the option soon.

You're welcome. I'd advise you to keep some sort of backup of the secret key. I like to have all mine printed out and locked away.

Just to clarify, would a signed deposit address still work in this case if the 2fa key was lost the sim to a phone number (so you don't have to wait the 7 or so days to get control of the number again).



I wouldn't trust printing out keys and storing them somewhere even if that place is locked. Although, if you stored the encrypted keys then it'd be a bit better -you can brute force it still without them being encrypted.


can we get a live chart for the contest and the amounts that people have wagered in total since the start of July (for when that comes) - not sure if this was already said.
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Thanks TheQuin for the fast answer. I never worked before with 2FA but will activate the option soon.

You're welcome. I'd advise you to keep some sort of backup of the secret key. I like to have all mine printed out and locked away.
sr. member
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Wow, this is the first contest since a long time, nice to see that!

Small and maybe stupid question: if I enable 2FA with my mobile phone and my number changes, what to do than ?

The phone number is only used for recovery. If you lost the 2FA key you can get an SMS text message code to log in with. Go to your profile page and there is a "2FA RECOVERY DETAILS" section and you can change the number there.

Thanks TheQuin for the fast answer. I never worked before with 2FA but will activate the option soon.
hero member
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Wow, this is the first contest since a long time, nice to see that!

Small and maybe stupid question: if I enable 2FA with my mobile phone and my number changes, what to do than ?

The phone number is only used for recovery. If you lost the 2FA key you can get an SMS text message code to log in with. Go to your profile page and there is a "2FA RECOVERY DETAILS" section and you can change the number there.
sr. member
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OK, time for an exciting announcement!

July Wagering Contest - $30,000 in prizes

How does it work?

  • The contest starts on 1st of July at 00:00 UTC.
  • Prizes for the top 10 accounts by wagered amount in the month.
  • 50% of the prize amount also paid to your referrer.
  • Prize can be taken in Bitcoin or Reward Points, the choice is yours.

How much can I win?

  • 1st Prize - $10,000
  • 2nd Prize - $5,000
  • 3rd Prize - $2,500
  • 4th Prize - $1,250
  • 5th Prize - $625
  • 6th Prize - $300
  • 7th Prize - $150
  • 8th Prize - $75
  • 9th Prize - $40
  • 10th Prize - $20

How much do I get if my referral wins?

  • 1st Prize - $5,000
  • 2nd Prize - $2,500
  • 3rd Prize - $1,250
  • 4th Prize - $625
  • 5th Prize - $300
  • 6th Prize - $150
  • 7th Prize - $75
  • 8th Prize - $40
  • 9th Prize - $20
  • 10th Prize - $10

We wish you every success whether you're a whale or looking to snag one as a referral.


Don't forget to follow us on Twitter to see every bonus promotion and announcement >>> https://twitter.com/freebitco


Wow, this is the first contest since a long time, nice to see that!

Small and maybe stupid question: if I enable 2FA with my mobile phone and my number changes, what to do than ?
hero member
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OK, time for an exciting announcement!

July Wagering Contest - $30,000 in prizes

How does it work?

  • The contest starts on 1st of July at 00:00 UTC.
  • Prizes for the top 10 accounts by wagered amount in the month.
  • 50% of the prize amount also paid to your referrer.
  • Prize can be taken in Bitcoin or Reward Points, the choice is yours.

How much can I win?

  • 1st Prize - $10,000
  • 2nd Prize - $5,000
  • 3rd Prize - $2,500
  • 4th Prize - $1,250
  • 5th Prize - $625
  • 6th Prize - $300
  • 7th Prize - $150
  • 8th Prize - $75
  • 9th Prize - $40
  • 10th Prize - $20

How much do I get if my referral wins?

  • 1st Prize - $5,000
  • 2nd Prize - $2,500
  • 3rd Prize - $1,250
  • 4th Prize - $625
  • 5th Prize - $300
  • 6th Prize - $150
  • 7th Prize - $75
  • 8th Prize - $40
  • 9th Prize - $20
  • 10th Prize - $10

We wish you every success whether you're a whale or looking to snag one as a referral.


Don't forget to follow us on Twitter to see every bonus promotion and announcement >>> https://twitter.com/freebitco
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
I cant enter to both page, free bitcoin and doge  Huh, the only one?

The site, FreeBitco.in, works perfectly to me today.  Although I'm not using Doge, I just tried to access the site a minute ago and it is also accessible. If you have an opportunity to use another browser, try that, it may help.


What about the doge site? Any plans for that, are the two going to merge?

The plan is to merge... eventually after we work out how to do it. So the rebrand and adding other coins comes first then Doge later.

What do you mean about merging? Are you saying wetsuit is going to merge it with freebitco.in or creating a new site with new coin of course instead of staying with doge? And btw you just said about contest, what kind of contest is it like? Because I never heard about freebitco.in are doing contest, this must be the first time right?

Seems interesting for the freebitco.in to launch  a rare contest. I will follow on this one.

I'm also excited to see what will be the contest... Now we have to wait few more days.

According to TheQuin's last post in this thread we have to wait not more than several hours for the announcement. Can't wait to see what it is, and maybe to take part in it.

Check out this thread for details, guys, it may be interesting. Good luck to all the participants!
hero member
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What do you mean about merging? Are you saying wetsuit is going to merge it with freebitco.in or creating a new site with new coin of course instead of staying with doge? And btw you just said about contest, what kind of contest is it like? Because I never heard about freebitco.in are doing contest, this must be the first time right?

Freebitco.in will be relaunched as crypteer.com later this year. We're adding more coins and an exchange function. After that at some point we will merge Doge in.

I'll make an announcement about the competition later today. (After I've had some breakfast.)



IMPORTANT

People who have been re-using passwords on multiple websites have been getting hacked since it seems like the databases of some other faucets have been compromised or the owner of those faucets decided to use the passwords that they had to compromise freebitco.in accounts. Like I have warned countless times before - Please do not re-use passwords on multiple websites and use a password manager!

If you use the same password on multiple websites, you will get hacked, it is only a matter of when. I have added a protection in the signup and change password functions to force users to create a secure password which should somewhat help in users not re-using their passwords. Login authorization emails which were previously being sent only for users who had a balance > $5 (because a lot of users were marking these emails as spam negatively impacting our email deliverability) has been enabled for all users now.

If you used the same password elsewhere change it now.
legendary
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What about the doge site? Any plans for that, are the two going to merge?

The plan is to merge... eventually after we work out how to do it. So the rebrand and adding other coins comes first then Doge later.

What do you mean about merging? Are you saying wetsuit is going to merge it with freebitco.in or creating a new site with new coin of course instead of staying with doge? And btw you just said about contest, what kind of contest is it like? Because I never heard about freebitco.in are doing contest, this must be the first time right?

Seems interesting for the freebitco.in to launch  a rare contest. I will follow on this one.

I'm also excited to see what will be the contest... Now we have to wait few more days.
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Computta Mine Your Own BTC
What about the doge site? Any plans for that, are the two going to merge?

The plan is to merge... eventually after we work out how to do it. So the rebrand and adding other coins comes first then Doge later.

What do you mean about merging? Are you saying wetsuit is going to merge it with freebitco.in or creating a new site with new coin of course instead of staying with doge? And btw you just said about contest, what kind of contest is it like? Because I never heard about freebitco.in are doing contest, this must be the first time right?

Seems interesting for the freebitco.in to launch  a rare contest. I will follow on this one.
legendary
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What about the doge site? Any plans for that, are the two going to merge?

The plan is to merge... eventually after we work out how to do it. So the rebrand and adding other coins comes first then Doge later.

What do you mean about merging? Are you saying wetsuit is going to merge it with freebitco.in or creating a new site with new coin of course instead of staying with doge? And btw you just said about contest, what kind of contest is it like? Because I never heard about freebitco.in are doing contest, this must be the first time right?
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
the lottery's a little unfair. Since the lottery ticket does not have a unique identification number. you are using your account ID.  All calculations show that in the future, the first accounts will never win. When each lottery ticket will have its own ID then it will be the most honest lottery!!!
example! on Monday I bought a ticket with the number 120128, on Wednesday I bought a ticket with a number 50869753, on Friday I bought a ticket with a number 800675849.))))))))

In round 156 a user of ID 316363 won 4th place in the lottery.
My UID is about 1400000 and I registered in 2015 (if I remember rightly).

I think there are probably a lot of people who either give up on the site or do like me and only come back now and again to go on it.

It's not just the timestamp the Tweet comes out before the block is mined, you can see that. He's really trying too hard to find a reason here because he was wrong about there not being a client seed, he was wrong about the server seed not being visible, and he embarrassed himself not knowing that wager is proportional to winnings with equal odds. So he wants us to forget all about that and argue some irrelevance about whether or not a Twitter timestamp might be a few seconds out.
I think he may have gone, hopefully to build up his knowledge of Bitcoin.
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the lottery's a little unfair. Since the lottery ticket does not have a unique identification number. you are using your account ID.  All calculations show that in the future, the first accounts will never win. When each lottery ticket will have its own ID then it will be the most honest lottery!!!

No. That's a complete misunderstanding of random numbers. Every number is equally probable to be drawn the winner irrespective of it being low or high. Random ticket IDs would not change anything.
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the lottery's a little unfair. Since the lottery ticket does not have a unique identification number. you are using your account ID.  All calculations show that in the future, the first accounts will never win. When each lottery ticket will have its own ID then it will be the most honest lottery!!!
example! on Monday I bought a ticket with the number 120128, on Wednesday I bought a ticket with a number 50869753, on Friday I bought a ticket with a number 800675849.))))))))
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I dont actually trust twitter timestamps anyway.  Never have,  never will because they are approximated, batched and have been manipulated in the past.
You don't need to trust twitter as a service or the timestamps that are added as they aren't what makes it provably fair. We don't wnat you to go back 120 lotteries and keep analysing when the results were published.

It's not just the timestamp the Tweet comes out before the block is mined, you can see that. He's really trying too hard to find a reason here because he was wrong about there not being a client seed, he was wrong about the server seed not being visible, and he embarrassed himself not knowing that wager is proportional to winnings with equal odds. So he wants us to forget all about that and argue some irrelevance about whether or not a Twitter timestamp might be a few seconds out.

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
Good to know.  It's to bad that its broken and cant be fixed.
Err OK maybe your Enlgish didn't pick up on that so well.
"Fixed" is changing something that isn't broken but is made to favour a system you don't want it to.

Say you bet $1million on a horse race and I was a casino owner and the rate was 1-40 and the second horse had a rate of 1-5 and there was only $10000 on that horse in total. I may "fix" the state of the bet by paying the jockey to fall off it at a certain jump.

BTW, BTC block numbers are already generated,  there are 21million block numbers.
NO. They are not already assigned. There are NOT 21million.
There ARE 21 million Bitcoins, not 21 million Bitcoin Blocks.

Just pick one,  they are in sequential order.  So yes,  I do expect to see a block number published somewhere (which is not well documented).  It should be placed on the site in a prominent area (along with server seed) with a link to twitter,  not hidden in some twitter file that no one is ever going to open or even knows exists.
There is a link LOOK at the site and you will see it in the lottery page.

I dont actually trust twitter timestamps anyway.  Never have,  never will because they are approximated, batched and have been manipulated in the past.
You don't need to trust twitter as a service or the timestamps that are added as they aren't what makes it provably fair. We don't wnat you to go back 120 lotteries and keep analysing when the results were published.

Twitter < BTC as far as timestamping goes.
I don't understand.

A better solution would be to actually make a BTC transaction with the link to the file instead,  then link the transaction on the site.  No need to rely upon that twitter garbage.
But then you wouldn't trust the blockchain or its timestamps.
And you'd say it's better to use a twitter site then publishing the data on the blockchain.
Also, you can't put a file on the blockchain as there's only 80 bytes you can write to per transaction. And that'd have gone down well a few months ago @TheQuin, you should really get wetsuit to add to the tremendous increase in the number of blockchain transactions, that would've been really useful.

One of the major advantages of BTC are the fact that it can be used for a RNG and a Timestamping tool.  This is a BTC geared site,  why is it using twitter for things that BTC is far superior at?  Makes no sense to me.
So now you know some sort of bewnefits of BTC? Even though you don't actually know how many Bitcoin blocks there are?
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Good to know.  It's to bad that its broken and cant be fixed.  BTW, BTC block numbers are already generated,  there are 21million block numbers.  Just pick one,  they are in sequential order.  So yes,  I do expect to see a block number published somewhere (which is not well documented).  It should be placed on the site in a prominent area (along with server seed),  not hidden in some twitter file that no one is ever going to open or even knows exists.

We use the 12th block mined after the lottery round closes. Although it is obviously possible to predict the 12th number in a sequential numbering system of +1 it is not possible to predict what block number will be the last one at a specific time.

We use Twitter to publish the file as it is a third party, Tweets are timestamped and you cannot edit a Tweet.

Anyone who reads the Provably Fair tab (that you obviously didn't) would know where to find it.

Have you finished making a fool of yourself yet? It's not broken, your comprehension is.
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