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November 07, 2021, 07:57:29 PM
#21
I've always wanted to know if they really pay $271.37 on average for 10000 rolls. And if so, why don't they just pay $0.027 for each roll? They'd have the highest paying faucet, while it would cost them the same amount in total.

Yes, we do. Check the stats page and work out what 5% of our daily turnover is. The reason we do it this way should be obvious after 8 years. It's far more interesting as a game than a regular faucet that pays the same every time and that has brought in a huge number of customers. It's also a way of introducing many people to the game of dice which is where the site's income comes from.


Interesting. It would be interesting to hear statement from wetsuit or TheQuin.
I find it interesting that for years they haven't responded here.

I find it interesting that the last time you said that I told you that I have responded many times before but it comes pointless responding over and over again.


To this day all accusations of scamming freebitco.in have turned out to be false, from cheaters.
There's no hard evidence because they created their system so that you don't have any evidence:
Most of them are fine, but 2 times happened that, after the roll, server seed hash was REPLACED with a new one, while nonce and client seed where still the same. This completely break their fairness, since replacing the server seed hash means that they are replacing the server seed and therefore they are changing our rolled number. Roll Eyes

We didn't create the provably fair system, we used the same system that was already in place on every other Bitcoin dice site at the time. It was created to allow you to verify your own rolls. It gives you the evidence. What it doesn't do is give me the ability to prove that we didn't cheat. That's what makes responding to these threads so pointless. Most of them are just using stats to prove that variance exists and the few that say we changed the servers seed just become arguments of he said we did cheaT, I say we didn't cheat, repeat until fade.

legendary
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November 07, 2021, 05:00:35 AM
#20
That's simply because freebitco.in has a great reputation on the forum and you do not.
They have great marketing on the forum, which isn't the same as having a great reputation.
I don't trust them one bit, and this is why:
I've often wondered if they're legit, based on the average cost per faucet claim:
1 number pays $200
2 numbers pay $20
4 numbers pay $2
8 numbers pay $0.20
100 numbers pay $0.02
9886 numbers pay $0.002

I've always wanted to know if they really pay $271.37 on average for 10000 rolls. And if so, why don't they just pay $0.027 for each roll? They'd have the highest paying faucet, while it would cost them the same amount in total.
Because they choose not to pay the average amount for each roll, but made it a jackpot system, cheating would be possible and largely go unnoticed. Especially if they only cheat once every few thousand rolls.

Based on the odds, I would expect one $200 winner for every 2 $20 winners.
I did a (manual) count on pages 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50 on Big wins at FreeBitco.in:
I just won $20 at FreeBitco.in! 116 times
I just won $200 at FreeBitco.in! 2 times
I probably miscounted a bit, but let's round it down: winning $200 is 50 times less likely than winning $20, and that makes the difference 25 12.5 times larger than it should be.

And this:
I was playing in Freebitco.in during ~3 years. These are my achivements on the sceenshot below. Free rolls played = 10467. The biggest numbers I rolled are:
9993 - 1 time
9992 - 2 times
9990 - 1 time
9989 - 2 times

and never bigger than 9993.

And especially his:
Interesting. It would be interesting to hear statement from wetsuit or TheQuin.
I find it interesting that for years they haven't responded here.

To this day all accusations of scamming freebitco.in have turned out to be false, from cheaters.
There's no hard evidence because they created their system so that you don't have any evidence:
Most of them are fine, but 2 times happened that, after the roll, server seed hash was REPLACED with a new one, while nonce and client seed where still the same. This completely break their fairness, since replacing the server seed hash means that they are replacing the server seed and therefore they are changing our rolled number. Roll Eyes
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November 07, 2021, 03:23:07 AM
#19
1. Are you using 2FA?

They are not.

2. does your computer have Viruses and trojan horse installed?
3. Was your account compromised? Do you use sandbox software?

It's unlikely to be malware. There are no transactions to or from their profile default Bitcoin address so without 2fa any withdrawals must have been authorised from their email account. This looks far more like a case of forgetfulness to me. They thought they left a balance in another account and when they went back to it they found they had already withdrawn it. There's also some forgetfulness on the amount in question here. When it was deposited in July 2019 it was approximately $100 and not $1,000.
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November 07, 2021, 02:24:42 AM
#18
Alright, let's stop "beating about the bush".

  PLEASE Neraxis DO THIS

1. Login to your mummy freebitco.in account
2. On the drop-down menu click STATS
3. On that page click PERSONAL STATS
4. Take a screenshot of that page
5. On bitcointalk forum, create a new post
6. Post a screenshot of that page for us to see on this thread or upload the screenshot on https://imgbb.com/ and share the link here in this forum.


If you are not tech savvy, I have given you a good example for you to use.
https://ibb.co/5st8R9n


 $1000 is not peanut! Freebitco.in gave me my first bitcoin ever! Even when moonbit had problems, freebitco still kept their high standards!



Please I'm waiting for your post.

 I'm also interested in this story.

Please, I'm begging you on behalf of other forum users. Don't disappoint us.
 Thank you.




b]N.b.[/b]

Furthermore, Don't blame freebitco.in when there is negligence on your part.
1. Are you using 2FA?
2. does your computer have Viruses and trojan horse installed?
3. Was your account compromised? Do you use sandbox software?

 Also tell us what you did on your path that exempt you from being blamed

If I should add up all this pieces of your story for you to reflect upon, you may abuse me like the rest of the people trying to help you in this forum.


[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
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November 06, 2021, 09:16:28 PM
#17
I replied in one of our threads where someone notified me of this thread.

Quin, can you please attend to this issue raised by this user and give your side of story as well as confirming if his claim of "contacting 10 times" is true.

I don't have time to look to see how many contact us messages they sent. Our FAQ says this:

Quote
Q. Where can I check my activity on this website?

A. By clicking on STATS in the above menu and then on PERSONAL STATS.

~

Q. How can I contact you?

A. By filling in the form below. Please read the questions above before sending us an email. We receive hundreds of emails everyday and do not have the resources to reply to all of them, so we have a policy of not responding to emails asking questions that have already been answered on this page.

I literally get tens of people every day claiming that something mysteriously vanished from their account because they didn't actually look for themselves. Nothing ever just vanishes and there's always a record on the relevant pages.

In this case, the account in question withdrew the funds a long time ago. There are no withdrawals in the last 30 days which is all we keep records for but the totals on the stats page show:

FREE ROLL WINNINGS 0.00013295
MULTIPLY BTC WINNINGS -0.00000154
TOTAL DEPOSITS: 0.01030569
TOTAL PAYOUTS: 0.01138077

The roll history shows the account has been inactive apart from 2 recent free rolls where you can see there was no $1,000 to "vanish" as it was only 13 Sats.


DATE                   GAME   RESULT   NUM   STAKE   MUL   WIN   JPOT   M   NONCE   BB   BA   DBB   DBA   VER   
2021-10-24 07:01:31   f           WIN           3247   0           0   1         1592           14   15   0   0   VER   
2021-10-20 16:26:55   f           WIN           15      0           0   1         1591           13   14   0   0   VER   
legendary
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November 06, 2021, 11:18:03 AM
#16
Ok, ok. Several things were unclear for me, please help clarify.

1. You've been around this forum for three years, since 2018, not a tech savvy, and yet didn't know how to use the forum and "barely made it here"? After all these years? And yet again, although you didn't know how to use the forum, a non tech savvy that's barely made it here, you fluently know how to create a thread? Are you sure you didn't mean you just bought this account from someone or you just made this post to bad-mouthing freebitco?



2. Assuming you're truly not a tech savvy, the worst tech savvy ever that needed to read a guide just to turn on his pc, it's still would only need zero tech ability to understand that you'll get a better chance they'll respond to you faster on their thread, which we can be very sure you know its existence as your last activity on this thread was one year ago, on October 2020, posting on freebitco's thread. You'll get a better chance there, because they're there, checking the thread every now and then, compared to this whole board which they'll probably only check once a month or never, and when they --let's assume-- want to have fun and randomly visit this board, an accusation thread addressed to them can be easily drowned by other thread. But you didn't seems to bother posting there first, or at least inform them that you've made an accusation against them so they can come here to defend themselves.

3. Last year, on your last post, you made it clear you hated this faucet site, and yet you encouraged your mom to put her money on that site you swore people were "just burn cash". Ladies and gentlemen, this year's best son ever award fall to... --drum roll-- Neraxis! He won because he pointed his own mother to invest on a site that's --by his own claim and experience-- shady.

Who tf has enough money to put it on a site that doesnt reply to tech support emails for months and lies about advertised services?

Wow. Lucky. You must just burn cash.



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Edit: notifying TheQuin about this thread and inviting him to give his side of story here.
legendary
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November 05, 2021, 05:39:07 AM
#15
Just because I've been here and know of the site doesn't mean that I really know anything about it or to contact them here.

You people are poisonous. Jesus Christ.

Also, I stated that  I already sent a message and got a pretty crass reply, numb nuts.

Once again, thank you to anyone who actually tried to help. To all you jumping to conclusions and speculating negatively against my claims, fuck yourself.

You are the reason people don't trust this shit.

That's simply because freebitco.in has a great reputation on the forum and you do not. To this day all accusations of scamming freebitco.in have turned out to be false, from cheaters. If you want us to believe you you will have to attach some kind of proof and in the unlikely event that it was a mistake on their part, you would do better to address it to them, as you have been told.
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November 05, 2021, 05:27:22 AM
#14
Just because I've been here and know of the site doesn't mean that I really know anything about it or to contact them here.

You people are poisonous. Jesus Christ.

Also, I stated that  I already sent a message and got a pretty crass reply, numb nuts.

Once again, thank you to anyone who actually tried to help. To all you jumping to conclusions and speculating negatively against my claims, fuck yourself.

You are the reason people don't trust this shit.

People are just giving you and advise on what to do so if you done all of things what they say then send them a follow up message then ask for an update regarding on your issues since ranting here cannot give you a proper solution. Also don't  expect that people will believe you since in the first place you didn't provide any proof and the only one you post here is your claims nothing else more.
legendary
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November 04, 2021, 04:51:24 PM
#13
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you know if you PM'd TheQuin or Freebitco.in PR there is a chance that they are not getting it. the forum has a default setting where members won't be able to receive a pm from newbies unless they changed the setting which allows newbies to be able to send them private messages. that's why I am telling you to post your issue on their thread to let their representative know about your issue.

if you got offended by my previous post. my bad.
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November 04, 2021, 03:13:01 PM
#12
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instead of arguing with me, go and talk to their forum representative(like I said before), I've already linked their ANN thread and the name of the representative that will most likely respond to you. all you have to do is make contact with TheQuin to see whether your issue can be resolved or not.

also, you've been to this website before, so don't tell me it took you weeks to find this website and you don't have to be "techy" to find this website.
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instead of arguing with me, go and talk to their forum representative(like I said before), I've already linked their ANN thread and the name of the representative that will most likely respond to you. all you have to do is make contact with TheQuin to see whether your issue can be resolved or not.

also, you've been to this website before, so don't tell me it took you weeks to find this website and you don't have to be "techy" to find this website.

Just because I've been here and know of the site doesn't mean that I really know anything about it or to contact them here.

You people are poisonous. Jesus Christ.

Also, I stated that  I already sent a message and got a pretty crass reply, numb nuts.

Once again, thank you to anyone who actually tried to help. To all you jumping to conclusions and speculating negatively against my claims, fuck yourself.

You are the reason people don't trust this shit.
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November 04, 2021, 01:08:08 PM
#11
I don't have multiple accounts and I'm not banned or locked out of mine. My Mom's satoshis are just gone.
I don't think this is a multi accounting issue too. Otherwise, freebitco.in would have banned your account and you wouldn't be able to access it anymore.
Since the funds disappeared just like that, it's possible that your mom's account got hacked and the hacker stole the funds. Did you verify this possibility by checking the account's transactions history?

I've stated plainly that I'm not very techy. I don't know how to use a forum and I barely made it here.
You don't need to be a tech savvy person to figure out how to send a personal message on this forum. Just go to "MY MESSAGES - > New Message", fill in the username of the user you want to contact (TheQuin) and send him a link to this thread.
legendary
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November 04, 2021, 11:53:15 AM
#10
-snip
instead of arguing with me, go and talk to their forum representative(like I said before), I've already linked their ANN thread and the name of the representative that will most likely respond to you. all you have to do is make contact with TheQuin to see whether your issue can be resolved or not.

also, you've been to this website before, so don't tell me it took you weeks to find this website and you don't have to be "techy" to find this website.
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November 04, 2021, 02:15:19 AM
#9
It's like you people are brain dead.

I've stated plainly that I'm not very techy. I don't know how to use a forum and I barely made it here.

It took me weeks to find out how to even get in touch with this site. But I'm started to get a really good general sense of my the larger public does not like crypto and says that it's full of scams.

I faucet on can use PayPal to cash out my satoshi and that's that.

The only "proof" I have is that it was there and now it isn't. She didn't withdraw the funds.

I've spoken the moderator who was beyond skeptical of my claims. I think he checked my account though. Not my Mom's.

Either way. I was told this was the #1 bitcoin faucet online. That it was safe. I've seen people roll whole bitcoins here, implying that people trust it enough to deposit whole bitcoins.

In searching for a way to contact the site I managed to find tons of bad reviews and far more damning evidence against them than good reviews and I know better now.

Just by the difficulty of reaching them and the automatically harsh reception with their representative I see why Americans still do and probably always will like legitimate usd and fdic ensured centralized banks.

Cause they offer deposit bonuses and all sorts of things but this is a joke.

Should have known the first time my reward points disappeared by like half that other things could just disappear too.

I've got f'ed cointiply when I invested hundreds of dollars into cointiply when they claimed that I only put in $90 in satoshi after canceling the mining game.

I got f'ed by moonbitcoin when they closed.

And now my own Mom is getting f'ed out of money that she deposited into freebitco.in

Trash. I bet all of those sites have something in common too.

legendary
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November 04, 2021, 12:58:21 AM
#8
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you know you are just one post away from your issue being noticed by their representative. I am curious what's stopping you from posting your complaint on their thread or contacting their forum representative. members have also advised you to provide evidence to support your claim. having evidence along with your scam accusation greatly helps your issue.
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November 03, 2021, 09:50:53 AM
#7
So, you obviously use multiple accounts on there.
But what do you mean when you say "my Mom's account was totally emptied of over $1,000 worth of bitcoin"? you still have access to the account (So, you are not suspended/restricted). look at transaction history, maybe someone hacked that account and regularly withdrew Bitcoins from there.

btw. Here is freebitco.in Official PR Account freebitco.in PR, so ask for assistance from them.

My mother is a total separate household from mine. I'm not using multiple accounts. I just have friends and family I've referred.

My account was only hit for a few thousand sats. But my mother's account was cleaned out.

I don't have multiple accounts and I'm not banned or locked out of mine. My Mom's satoshis are just gone.

No one broke the rules period. I've been faucetting since the beginning of Moonbitcoin. Never had a problem till now.

Thank you to everyone who actually tried to help and wasn't a condescending snide pos in their comments.

There is no back up other than it was there, then it wasn't. SO, I'm sure seeing as how they're the owners and can literally look to see what happened...

I think a developer stole it personally. That's what all the negative reviews say.
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November 03, 2021, 07:09:21 AM
#6
btw. Here is freebitco.in Official PR Account freebitco.in PR, so ask for assistance from them.
That account is actually only in charge of marketing, and TheQuin is the forum representative for this kind of issues (as pointed out above).

But my Mom's account was totally emptied of over $1,000 worth of bitcoin and my total went down tens of thousands at the same time.
So you simple had tens of thousands of USD on a place you didn't trust? If what you say ends up being true, and I'm rather skeptical, that's not really the smartest move buddy.


I literally guided my Mom to this site and told her it was safe
You pointed your mom towards a casino and told her it was safe... what could have gone wrong there? I wonder...
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November 02, 2021, 09:23:48 PM
#5
Usually when someone claims a family member's account was banned it is really a case of the user having multiple accounts to get extra referral commissions and faucet claims.
legendary
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November 02, 2021, 08:49:18 PM
#4
btw. Here is freebitco.in Official PR Account freebitco.in PR, so ask for assistance from them.
or OP contact TheQuin on their Thread. I've visited their thread from time to time and TheQuin is usually the one I see who handles/responds to issues like this. so he will most likely respond to OP.

@OP, better provide evidence to back up your claim. so the members can know if the accusation is actually true or not.
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November 02, 2021, 05:44:59 PM
#3
So, you obviously use multiple accounts on there.
But what do you mean when you say "my Mom's account was totally emptied of over $1,000 worth of bitcoin"? you still have access to the account (So, you are not suspended/restricted). look at transaction history, maybe someone hacked that account and regularly withdrew Bitcoins from there.

btw. Here is freebitco.in Official PR Account freebitco.in PR, so ask for assistance from them.
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November 02, 2021, 05:36:05 PM
#2
To make the story more believable, I suggest you add more evidence and proof showing that indeed your accounts were drained and also chat logs indicating how negligent the support has been.

You can use this scam reporting format to guide you;

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
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