Topic: Freedom of speech soon to become a mirage. Will Bitcoin still be here by 2030? (Read 362 times)
November 10, 2022, 01:51:14 AM
Freedom of speech is doomed to be a mirage. I guess ever since the beginning, freedom of speech has been more like a slogan which would never be achieved in reality. This is what we need to be clear of. Just keep in mind what we should say at the right time in the right place.
November 09, 2022, 11:58:42 PM
bitcoin in my opinion will still exist, with the progress of the times like now, bitcoin will continue to grow and develop.
Internet users are increasingly crowded, as well as many digital transactions have been practicing.
and it's all bound to more or less lead
on progress.
the number of Indonesian crypto asset customers reached 7.5 million people late last year. The number has almost doubled compared to 2020, which was only four million people.
That's a significant feature and a positive thing for crypto/bitcoin.
Internet users are increasingly crowded, as well as many digital transactions have been practicing.
and it's all bound to more or less lead
on progress.
the number of Indonesian crypto asset customers reached 7.5 million people late last year. The number has almost doubled compared to 2020, which was only four million people.
That's a significant feature and a positive thing for crypto/bitcoin.
November 06, 2022, 08:18:53 AM
Since freedom of speech is often associated with political circumstances, I honestly don't see that financial freedom will still be in one context or at least will interfere with certain political interests (within the remaining 8 years threshold). Isn't it even better to support a stream if they wanna realize the aspirations of the public, eg. if bitcoin is the most desirable thing?
November 06, 2022, 06:31:14 AM
Unfortunately I have not yet seen any system that has true freedom of speech. It is not about controlling protests either, it is about speaking about "dirty government" in which case you will be silenced if your voice starts to be heard (they don't silence every idiot on the internet that talks about such matters).
For the most recent example google "ABC news reporter home raided". He wasn't "violent" or "protesting" he simply talked about the dirtiness in US government regarding how they started Ukraine war so he was "deleted" immediately.
I can tell you that it is at least not the fault of democracy since for example here in Germany you can even read in the state news every few days stuff about dirty deals from the government. You can not spread lies without proof but if it makes sense there will be no way that you are stopped. This is mostly a result of strict rules from the post nazi era. So it is always what people make out of it, but for shure it is not a direct result of the political system. For the most recent example google "ABC news reporter home raided". He wasn't "violent" or "protesting" he simply talked about the dirtiness in US government regarding how they started Ukraine war so he was "deleted" immediately.
November 06, 2022, 05:16:16 AM
Freedom of speech has always been an illusion specially in democracies.
If you say especially in democracy in what system freedome of speech is better? I think you are a little bit blinded by the media, since yes the protests are being controls when they turn violent but still you can say what every you want in the media or in a peaceful way.
For the most recent example google "ABC news reporter home raided". He wasn't "violent" or "protesting" he simply talked about the dirtiness in US government regarding how they started Ukraine war so he was "deleted" immediately.
November 06, 2022, 04:37:00 AM
Totalitarian governments does not last long.... once people got used to freedom ..and it gets taken away, they start to fight back and that manifest in the form of riots. Dictators gets assassinated ...and people replace them with leaders that fit their purpose.
"The French Revolution was a period of major social upheaval that began in 1787 and ended in 1799. It sought to completely change the relationship between the rulers and those they governed and to redefine the nature of political power." - https://www.britannica.com/event/French-Revolution
I think "leaders" forget very quickly and then history needs to repeat it self.
"The French Revolution was a period of major social upheaval that began in 1787 and ended in 1799. It sought to completely change the relationship between the rulers and those they governed and to redefine the nature of political power." - https://www.britannica.com/event/French-Revolution
I think "leaders" forget very quickly and then history needs to repeat it self.
November 06, 2022, 04:24:58 AM
Freedom of speech has always been an illusion specially in democracies.
If you say especially in democracy in what system freedome of speech is better? I think you are a little bit blinded by the media, since yes the protests are being controls when they turn violent but still you can say what every you want in the media or in a peaceful way.
November 06, 2022, 03:48:09 AM
Freedom of speech has always been an illusion specially in democracies. Basically you are free to do or say whatever the regime likes and if you do anything they don't like (eg. choose an alternative money they can not control) they will treat you the harshest way possible.
The more theirdemocracy modern dictatorship is threatened the more violent they are going to get. Look at what French authorities have been doing to the protesters (eg. Yellow Vests). This is even worse in times of crisis like an economic crisis that they are facing...
The more their
November 05, 2022, 02:21:42 PM
This is being planned. Yes, guys. They are planning our future without our consent. While "A french secretary of state just explicitly said on a french news channel that they are looking for ways to report fellow citizens for belief in conspiracy theories", the WEF is working to implement a Global Social credit scoring system along with their Digital Identity imposition and their Smart Cities Governance scheme (which btw, they say it is to protect citizens). They hope to have this all playing out by 2030. Looks pretty scary to me...
"You will own nothing and you will be happy"
And what are you going to do about it?
Will Bitcoin be a way to escape the Great Reset or will it perish?
This is ironic taking in consideration the fact that so far with all the technological advancements free speech has actually become a reality and can reach thousands or even millions of people at once. But thinking that just in a matter of few years we will be in such a scenario where we won't be able to exercise this very power itself seems pretty scary to me honestly. I think one can't really do anything about it individually you just have to make sure you select the correct global leaders who advocate free speech instead of ones who merely pretend to advocate the same. Talking about bitcoin even the freedom of that would become like a mirage if such a thing takes place. "You will own nothing and you will be happy"
And what are you going to do about it?
Will Bitcoin be a way to escape the Great Reset or will it perish?
November 05, 2022, 01:37:48 PM
The world is definitely becomingly increasingly authoritarian. Although (slightly off-topic) France, of all places, is a fairly resilient populace who know their rights and are fully prepared to take to social disorder to uphold those rights. Full respect to them. Lawmakers will find it difficult to push that through there.
Other places I could definitely see sliding towards totalitarianism, though.
Other places I could definitely see sliding towards totalitarianism, though.
November 05, 2022, 10:08:08 AM
Bitcoin will for shure be here in 2030, because this news are only affecting one country and can never affect all of the places on earth. Also even if there will be a period in the future where bitcoin is banned, there is no reason that it can not come back after that period ends.
November 05, 2022, 09:33:29 AM
Oh yeah as if there exists only one governing body and that’s French cabinet. I shook my head to this news and it’s the most unplanned scam of the government. Just go public, speak something out of thin air and claim that they will be doing this and that and just scare the public.
Do you guys even believe that this will have slightest impact on the global market? This is just news on the local channel and we don’t need to make it international standard.
Last week there something about Biden and before that there was SEC fighting over bitcoin securities and what not.
Slowly it all seems to be conspiracy itself from the government to shut the various operations on the other side. I don’t think it’s gonna make me scare.
Do you guys even believe that this will have slightest impact on the global market? This is just news on the local channel and we don’t need to make it international standard.
Last week there something about Biden and before that there was SEC fighting over bitcoin securities and what not.
Slowly it all seems to be conspiracy itself from the government to shut the various operations on the other side. I don’t think it’s gonna make me scare.
November 05, 2022, 08:33:34 AM
These are just predictions so we may not know if it does going to happen or not. Imagine if we live in a country like China and North Korea that doesn’t have the freedom of speech. We would be living a miserable life where our decisions and future are being fully controlled by the government and other central entities.
The only one that I am most concerned about though is the first one “You own nothing and you’ll be happy”. I don’t know what they really mean though, maybe monetary related stuff like Bitcoin? Or maybe our real life assets, properties, etc.?
Regardless of the outcome, Bitcoin is here to stay and there’s no way the government or any central authority can control it ever and it will never perish.
The only one that I am most concerned about though is the first one “You own nothing and you’ll be happy”. I don’t know what they really mean though, maybe monetary related stuff like Bitcoin? Or maybe our real life assets, properties, etc.?
Regardless of the outcome, Bitcoin is here to stay and there’s no way the government or any central authority can control it ever and it will never perish.
November 05, 2022, 08:22:49 AM
Total digitalization and, as a consequence, simplification of surveillance and identification of course leads to the fear of total control, including the restriction of freedom of speech.
But at the same time, we see that here and there local municipalities or county and state governments are beginning to legislatively restrict total surveillance of people with the help of surveillance cameras, for example, and although the world is moving towards a digital camp, but hope remains.
And I think that bitcoin is not in danger of anything, unless the greatly increased price makes it less affordable, but you can always buy not most of it.
But at the same time, we see that here and there local municipalities or county and state governments are beginning to legislatively restrict total surveillance of people with the help of surveillance cameras, for example, and although the world is moving towards a digital camp, but hope remains.
And I think that bitcoin is not in danger of anything, unless the greatly increased price makes it less affordable, but you can always buy not most of it.
November 05, 2022, 06:17:32 AM
Bitcoin can be one of the proven way to avoid censorship coming from those in authority but I must say that this is limited to wealth protection and may not be protecting people's right to free speech as the world is moving towards authoritarianism in many locations. Free speech is something that is surely slowly being eaten and in may times legally by imposing restrictions on many things and by redefining many things to suit what those in power can be planning. We are all hoping that Bitcoin can be playing a role in protecting what the people should be enjoying, in the first place.
November 05, 2022, 06:17:02 AM
I don't speak French, and the short info provided in a Reddit post and in one news article that I found aren't enough for me to assess what was meant and what kind of consequences it can have. I also read the article on Smart Cities and digital identity is literally mentioned zero times there, while involving civil society and protecting privacy are mentioned in the article and in the video.
Not to mention that this is just an experimental project, basically.
So I think it's very far-fetched to say that freedom of speech will be over, and that it looks scary. To me, we're not there yet and there isn't enough information to claim that any major changes will happen by 2030 when it comes to privacy or freedom of speech, really.
Oh, and yes, I'm sure Bitcoin will be out there in 2030.
Not to mention that this is just an experimental project, basically.
So I think it's very far-fetched to say that freedom of speech will be over, and that it looks scary. To me, we're not there yet and there isn't enough information to claim that any major changes will happen by 2030 when it comes to privacy or freedom of speech, really.
Oh, and yes, I'm sure Bitcoin will be out there in 2030.
November 05, 2022, 06:10:56 AM
Looking at the scenario unveiling itself step by step, I think it's past when one would say that they have no freedom of speech and control over resources. Many times the government wanted to control the citizens but it was met with stiff response from the masses. Freedom of speech would never and can never be a mirrage. Irrespective of the fact that there would definitely be some policies initiated by the government to control the people, it would only succeed for a short time but believe me you, the people would surely react fiercely against it. The world has gone far beyond the stage where individuals would be under control for a long time without a revolt. Come to talk of Bitcoin still in the space till 2030, I assure that it would stay far beyond that year as you have mentioned Bitcoin is just like you giving Power to the people so tell me how do you expect the people to throw away the power given to them recklessly, It's not possible. Bitcoin has been designed and built to stand the test of time. So OO I think you would tell it that Bitcoin has come to stay.
November 05, 2022, 05:35:15 AM
Will Bitcoin be a way to escape the Great Reset or will it perish?
Imho for every change that's against the people (like the current Big Brother trend) there's a threshold. When the glass is getting full, the people will react, and badly.
For now, especially in the democratic countries, some politicians are testing the waters and others keep an eye on them. Sort of equilibrium that doesn't need to be taken too serious (everybody can declare anything, that doesn't mean it will actually happen).
So no, I don't think that bitcoin will perish that soon. It will even get bigger.
Plus, bitcoin can work with and without KYC, depending on what the user wants and his level of knowledge.
Actually this trend trends to even fuel the privacy oriented altcoins ...
November 05, 2022, 05:30:08 AM
Will Bitcoin be a way to escape the Great Reset or will it perish?
Never forget that bitcoin is a currency that does not have a speculated time interval for it to exist despite it's limited supply, it's a currency that will always serve it purpose even after the whole blocks were mined, now should we get concerned about what some set of people assume for bitcoin? Bitcoin will remain beyond 2030 and over many generations to come as long as it has been already accepted for a means of making exchange for the payment of goods and services, it's also an asset the has appreciative value over time, if you truly knows the ideology of bitcoin you wouldn't be convinced about what others may say concerning it.
November 05, 2022, 05:25:07 AM
China and North Korea have been the first to implement that and these rich nations are just following what they've been doing over all of these years. They've taken the freedom of their citizens long time ago.
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