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Topic: [FREE]Texas Hold'em All-In ★ Free Contest with 1st Prize 0.07 and 2nd Prize 0.03 - page 2. (Read 3320 times)

legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
the top 4 after panjul's disqualification


1st   jikin                6,453.48
2nd darkmatters      6,375.04
3rd  dooglus            1,485.30
4th  1aguar                232.72


already out of contest

retlus
panjul
rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1

In case anyone missed it, during the contest you aren't allowed to bet more than 50 bits per seat.

The game will let you do it, but it's against the rules.

It would be nice if the game enforced the max-bet per seat limit to prevent people from accidentally betting too high.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
the top 4 after panjul's disqualification


1st   jikin                6,453.48
2nd darkmatters      6,375.04
3rd  dooglus            1,485.30
4th  1aguar                232.72


already out of contest

retlus
panjul
rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
srry im late was very busy, am i still can join?

yes sure you were one of the registered users who also deposited the guarantee

you should have the new login credentials if not please let me know and I send it again

come join in Smiley
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
srry im late was very busy, am i still can join?
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed

the last stats

Top 4 contest leaders are

1st        panjul07              6530.60
2nd       darkmatters       2000.12
3rd       dooglus                1145.30
4th       1aguar                    232.72


already out of contest

rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed

Top 3 contest leaders are

1st    darkmatters       2000.12
2nd   dooglus                1145.30
3rd   1aguar                    232.72


already out of contest

rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1


the rest of registered participants did not yet started to wager
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
I nearly won 16k bits - but didn't...

full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
the contest is still ongoing ..?? I will join

its closed,
and sorry for jacpotracer cant join you guys.
thanks for understanding. good luck all participants
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
the contest is still ongoing ..?? I will join
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
According to the moneypot user page stats:

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          name   bets  wagered     profit
    -----------   ----  -------  ---------
     katerniko1    547   79,200   1,732.50
        dooglus     92    7,410     601.70
        Hexcoin     45    1,195     469.30
    DarkMatters    271    2,936     375.44
          jikin     22      319      10.28
       panjul07     62    7,472    -502.40
      Cybernick    212   65,646  -2,416.10
          yahoo    493   89,433  -6,191.50

... but that includes profits and losses from before the hand-raking bug was fixed I guess.

Subtracting the data from before the reset:

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           name   bets  wagered     profit
    -----------   ----  -------  ---------
        dooglus     94     7420     611.30
    DarkMatters    231     2729     379.56
         1aguar     49      596     164.32
    Everybitbit      0        0       0.00
        Hexcoin      0        0       0.00
          huggy      0        0       0.00
          jikin      0        0       0.00
       panjul07      0        0       0.00
         retlus      0        0       0.00
  Rmcdermott927      0        0       0.00
          rozee      0        0       0.00
     webcreator      0        0       0.00
           zz11      0        0       0.00
     katerniko1    777   107969   -4999.10
      Cybernick    173    55480   -5000.00
          yahoo    493    89433   -5000.00
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
It's possible to hit the 'restart' button right after hitting 'deal'. It ends up with the screen getting corrupted - here I have 3 'winner' markers:

legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
the outcome is and must be random in our opinion because it is provably fair. please correct me if I am wrong.
for example if you bet on seat #4 and #5 and the seats tie that means your both bets are a tie and we didn't find a way to solve this kind of outcome. actually the other 8 seats lost but the 2 bets are a tie.

Well, you could have it so that when there's an N way tie, each of the winning seats gets 9.9/N times the amount they bet.

It looks like moneypot doesn't offer card shuffles as one of its modes, so you have no choice but to fake it using the 'custom bet' endpoint as things stand.

Well, you could have it so that when there's an N way tie, each of the winning seats gets 9.9/N times the amount they bet

not sure if I understood it. do you mean to split the profit and payout both seats? that would mean that this kind of tie would give the player a payout. fine for me (if I understood it right) but how about there will be another seat you didn't bet on but did tie with your 2 seats in this hand? how should we payout this hand?

when we joined moneypot we asked ryan if we can offer multiplayer player table but then he reversed it Sad ok he is the boss so we adjusted our games.

but we are still aiming to offer multiplayer tables and if not with moneypot then we need to go outside and give it a try.

thank you again for trying to help. very much appreciated

Again, I understand that the games are not multi-player.

I am talking about how to pay out when multiple seats have the best hand.

I don't think it is possible to make a game where that can happen on moneypot, so it doesn't really happen.

But if you could, then I think paying each winner 9.9/N times their stake would be the fair way to do it.

If two hands tie for the best hand, one of them is owned by the player and the other by the house, you would pay (9.9/2)x to the player. You don't pay the house anything, of course.

If two hands tie for the best hand and they're both owned by the player, you pay both of them (9.9/2)x. If they both staked the same (which they would, given how the game is currently set up) then the end result would be the same as picking just one of them and paying it 9.9x.

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I've been playing the contest for an hour or so. It's more fun than I expected it would be.

I was thinking that knowing that the winner was picked at random, and then the cards 'made up' to get the required result would spoil the feel of the game, but the illusion is pretty good. It feels like watching a poker hand play out.

According to the moneypot user page stats:

Quote
           name   bets  wagered     profit
    -----------   ----  -------  ---------
     katerniko1    547   79,200   1,732.50
        dooglus     92    7,410     601.70
        Hexcoin     45    1,195     469.30
    DarkMatters    271    2,936     375.44
          jikin     22      319      10.28
       panjul07     62    7,472    -502.40
      Cybernick    212   65,646  -2,416.10
          yahoo    493   89,433  -6,191.50

... but that includes profits and losses from before the hand-raking bug was fixed I guess.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
the outcome is and must be random in our opinion because it is provably fair. please correct me if I am wrong.
for example if you bet on seat #4 and #5 and the seats tie that means your both bets are a tie and we didn't find a way to solve this kind of outcome. actually the other 8 seats lost but the 2 bets are a tie.

Well, you could have it so that when there's an N way tie, each of the winning seats gets 9.9/N times the amount they bet.

It looks like moneypot doesn't offer card shuffles as one of its modes, so you have no choice but to fake it using the 'custom bet' endpoint as things stand.

Well, you could have it so that when there's an N way tie, each of the winning seats gets 9.9/N times the amount they bet

not sure if I understood it. do you mean to split the profit and payout both seats? that would mean that this kind of tie would give the player a payout. fine for me (if I understood it right) but how about there will be another seat you didn't bet on but did tie with your 2 seats in this hand? how should we payout this hand?

when we joined moneypot we asked ryan if we can offer multiplayer player table but then he reversed it Sad ok he is the boss so we adjusted our games.

but we are still aiming to offer multiplayer tables and if not with moneypot then we need to go outside and give it a try.

thank you again for trying to help. very much appreciated

legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
the outcome is and must be random in our opinion because it is provably fair. please correct me if I am wrong.
for example if you bet on seat #4 and #5 and the seats tie that means your both bets are a tie and we didn't find a way to solve this kind of outcome. actually the other 8 seats lost but the 2 bets are a tie.

Well, you could have it so that when there's an N way tie, each of the winning seats gets 9.9/N times the amount they bet.

It looks like moneypot doesn't offer card shuffles as one of its modes, so you have no choice but to fake it using the 'custom bet' endpoint as things stand.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
@all contest participants

as a few users would like us to restart the contest we will send out soon the new login credentials

please withdraw the coins you have above 5k and the other user who have less please tellus in chat or PM and we will send it so you can start with 5k

good luck
i withdrawed all profit and my balance is 5k.
thanks for resuming contest soon Cheesy
regards.
-Katerniko1
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
@all contest participants

as a few users would like us to restart the contest we will send out soon the new login credentials

please withdraw the coins you have above 5k and the other user who have less please tellus in chat or PM and we will send it so you can start with 5k

good luck
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
i think that contest needs to be resumed (with restart of balance to 5k bits)
as bug is fixed it should be resumed asap Cheesy
atleast thats what everyone else is doing, lets say in some texas online poker tournoment when something is bugged they pause it and resume the game (which i personaly saw playing on pokerstars tourney)
regards.
-Katerniko1

Yes, it's a 48 hour game, and only 6 hours were lost due to the bug. You should reopen it now and let us have the remaining 42 hours to compete.

it is not a multiplayer table (PvP) as players are used to. at the 10 seat table the user is playing alone at the table and betting on one or more seats and always all-in. there is no event of a split. we adjusted the game for now to the money API and for each bet there is always a winner and no tie.

I understand that it's not a true multiplayer game, but you're dealing hole cards to 10 players, then dealing 5 board cards. Assuming the deck isn't rigged then it's possible for multiple people to have the best hand. What if the 5 board cards are T,J,Q,K,A, rainbow? Everyone ties.

Are you saying the board never appears like that because the shuffle isn't random? Or what are you saying? Why won't a tie ever happen?

we have no problem to reopen it but we also would like that each user will start with 5k and not with his profit or loss he had. we are looking for a fair solution. we would prefer to give playmoney for such a kind of contest but we can't.

we are not experts regarding provably fair or moneypot API handling we have to rely on coders. moneypot allows atomic bets/games only. at our poker table the user is wagering on a seat or more than one that means there is no pot as it is on a regular table. the outcome is and must be random in our opinion because it is provably fair. please correct me if I am wrong.
for example if you bet on seat #4 and #5 and the seats tie that means your both bets are a tie and we didn't find a way to solve this kind of outcome. actually the other 8 seats lost but the 2 bets are a tie.
so we agreed to offer this all-in game without a tie. how it is coded? we don't know ( we are not coders) but he game outcome is correct and provably fair. no one is cheated.

thanks again for your question and trying to help
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
you also have to send me a PM,how to join?
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you didn't register for the contest. so there is no reason to send you a PM

sorry....maybe next time


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but I want to play , how to register ? and where totolino he must give permission for my play .
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
i think that contest needs to be resumed (with restart of balance to 5k bits)
as bug is fixed it should be resumed asap Cheesy
atleast thats what everyone else is doing, lets say in some texas online poker tournoment when something is bugged they pause it and resume the game (which i personaly saw playing on pokerstars tourney)
regards.
-Katerniko1

Yes, it's a 48 hour game, and only 6 hours were lost due to the bug. You should reopen it now and let us have the remaining 42 hours to compete.

it is not a multiplayer table (PvP) as players are used to. at the 10 seat table the user is playing alone at the table and betting on one or more seats and always all-in. there is no event of a split. we adjusted the game for now to the money API and for each bet there is always a winner and no tie.

I understand that it's not a true multiplayer game, but you're dealing hole cards to 10 players, then dealing 5 board cards. Assuming the deck isn't rigged then it's possible for multiple people to have the best hand. What if the 5 board cards are T,J,Q,K,A, rainbow? Everyone ties.

Are you saying the board never appears like that because the shuffle isn't random? Or what are you saying? Why won't a tie ever happen?

Edit: I just checked a random hand and it looks like the game kind of works backwards. You use moneypot to pick a winning seat number at random from 1 to 10, and then arrange the deck to make the selected player win. That explains why there's never a tie - because we're not playing poker, we're playing something like dice or roulette, with the hands made up after the fact to make it look like poker.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
@all contest participants

the bug is fixed. it was a straight ranking bug ( coder explanation )

we want to set a new start date and time and would like to set the start of the contest for tomorrow
(tuesday). all users are asked to post their preferred time for tomorrow and we will try to find a time that could fit for all.

we will send a PM to all participants with the same question to be sure that they will have the chance to tell us their opinion.

sorry again for the inconvenience (sh*t happens)

edit:
each user who ended after the contest was stopped in profit should please withdraw the profit and leave 5k on the account for the new start. the users who had a loss please let us know the loss and we will send it to you so you will have 5k for starting the new scheduled contest. all participants will start with 5k
you also have to send me a PM,how to join?

you didn't register for the contest. so there is no reason to send you a PM

sorry....maybe next time

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