Topic: French Election - page 3. (Read 7904 times)

If the UK are lacking morally, that's mainly due to the fact that the tory crime syndicate are currently calling the shots, or at least think they are, but the EU are going to walk all over May if she tries to play hardball.  All the tories know how to do is lie, cheat and steal.  My hope is that the general election the UK are having in June will blow up in the tories' faces and that enough of them are arrested that they can't form a majority.  That way, even if the British public are stupid enough to vote for criminals (and sadly, I'm pretty sure they are, just look at popcorn1), at the very least they'll have to form a coalition with one of the other parties who can try to keep them in check.  I think Brexit would go far more smoothly if Labour pulled a miracle out of the bag.  Corbyn is actually more euro-skeptic than the media like to portray, but at least if he were at the helm, the UK would be handling these negotiations with a great deal more dignity and class than crime boss Dona Theresa Mayleone could ever muster.  Never trust a tory.

Agreed and I have said so even before first round. Its not so much debate around the program or integrity of the candidates.

It is clear from start, that whoever will enter second round next to Le Pen will automatically muster support of all mainstream media and power elites just to preserve status quo however bad it already is. Only exception being the red Khmer Melénchon but voters ousted him - he was so radical left, that detractors of Le Pen saw him as the bigger threat.

It would be cool if MAINPMF could expand on this issue.

Now according to sociologists the Macron and Le pen shares an abyss. 20% of the votes is an insurmountable barrier to Le pen. Today will be the final debate. I think she will lose them and become the President of Markon. Although even if she wins the President will still Makron.

Well she really fucked up with all that. She stole MILLIONS both from Europe and France government. It has hardly happened at such scale, it was litteraly organized crime here.
She was the big boss and watched and organized everything. She really deserves the jail.

Well the election was not yet decided but looking at the odds Marine Le Pen will lost the Presidential Race. If she will not be able to win the presidential seat then it is clear as a day that France will sill be under the umbrella of the European Union. The hopes of all people in France who wanted independence from the union will be laid to waste.

I'd say that reaching such argument is already a proof in itself of who's right and who's wrong ^^
Art 50 of Lisbonne treaty I guess...
Aaaaaaaaaaaaah now we see the British here.

You see what you mean here right? That's just saying "we don't honor our commitment and you can't do anything against it because we import your goods"

So British indeed. So American too.

Right you can use your balance trade as a pressure point, but that doesn't change the fact that, once again, British people won't stand up to their words.

Nothing new though, they never did.

It is indeed true, that previous rulers of UK did sign something like this? Countries are not corporations, making future generations collectively responsible for terrible judgment of their ancestors sounds like a nightmare.

If it came to divorce between man and woman, what kind of court would say the woman has to pay amount of XY to a man in compensation, if she wants to leave unhappy relationship? It is tantamount to slavery and promise of anything but friendship in the future.

You are so full of shit.

Find me a copy of that online and post the reference, you wont be able to find it as you are factually incorrect.

This one graph shows exactly why the UK can walk away and not pay you a thing and still continue free trade.

I dont think your German masters are about to risk over £25 billion in annual trades with us :

It seems to me that to remove her parliamentary immunity is a fuse just in case she wins the election. Concerning it criminal case will be brought and it will apply the procedure of impeachment. France will not leave the European Union.

Is she wins it won't happen because she doesn't want to leave Euro.
She said all and its opposite in the campaign, but her last statements are clear, she want to leave EU as a free zone for personns but not to leave the currency.

Panic? Saying lots of Muslims are in prison sin't exactly spreading panic! And this is not a political subject so the political orientation isn't important: people hate muslims, they want news saying muslims are all criminals. So they publish this because it makes sells, that's all.
Because righ wing is synonymous to an economical ideal I do not support at all and I think has been proven wrong ^^
Indedd.
Then you've never seen one I guess.
Her "programm" is of 144 propositions.
About 40 of which are about national "protection" which you can translate by kicking out everyone and everything which is not French and add even more security measures than what we already have.
About 30 are propositions to delete taxes on companies, lower them, simplify taxation etc...

That's what you call a right wing programm: security + liberalism for companies...

The only difference is that Lepen adds nationalism to an extent that has never been seen in our country. But that's all. Please find anything "leftist" in her programm ^^
Sadly yes, lots of people try to label elites as "left wing" which is completely stupid! Left wing is an economical and sociological perspective. People even say that Macron is a "leftist" which is... I don't even have a word for that because Macron si completely right winged. It's just that he doesn't add nationalism to it.
You're very welcome.

Well, the thing is Washington Post is liberal left media, why would it spread panic and share information that is not independently researched?

You use the term "right wing" as synonymous for insult, but I understand, that you are one of the few actual french speaking people here. Le Pen is called "right wing" and her program is leftist if I ever saw one.
 "Left wing" in Europe is synonymous for elitist today.

Thank you for clarification.

Pretty much the same in fact

A crazy nationalist corrupted bitch against a corrupted dog of the banks.

More or less the same as the US elections ^^

It reminds me about recent USA election 

I don't understand why you're so angry.
UK is so better than France? Great, then go on alone no problem for us.
France and French never liked UK any way, our two countries have nearly always been at war and we're different in EVERY WAY, cultural, economical...

I don't understand why you justify yourself, if you think you're so strong then just leave, no one is trying to keep you in ^^

You're welcome. And you seem to think right and left aren't real political notions which makes already a difficult point on which we don't agree ^^
Estimated at least. Might be more but saying 30% is beyond stupidity, if there is 30% muslims in France where the fuck are they? xD
Oh yeah easy, it's a pure hoax.
Here a little reading:
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/are-70-of-frances-prison-inmates-muslims

To sum it up: the number was from a right winged "sociologist" but even himself NEVER SAID 70%. His estimations are of 40% to the max and every other figures say about 25%

So I'd explain it simply by saying that if you have ONE and ONLY ONE study in the world that gives a figure and all the others that give another.... I'd say the first one is false ^^

But don't misunderstand me, 25% is still 3 to 4 times more than the 7% of the actual population. And so?

I'll put it simply:
Step 1: you sign a contract with lots of terms including one saying that if you want to leave you have to pay 50 billions
Step 2: you leave
Step 3: you pay 50 billions

Is that too difficult to understand?
I feel like UK is acting like a spoiled child crying how unfair it is that the contract THEY SIGNED is being taken into account...

Yeah that's a bit the idea.
Sadly Macron and Lepen are both terrible choices...
Macron wants to stay in the EU but doesn't want to change it and EU is pure shit right now.
Lepen wants to leave it without creating a new one which is just as stupid as Macron's idea.

And we can't really talk about national policy as they have none xD

Your opinion here. You talk about muslim invaders we know we got only 7% and most of them are from our former colonies.
Lol, wanna see the number of victories and defeats in UK/France wars?
More than 5 000 km of borders, wanna us to guard it all? Why? It would cost millions without any reasons. Sorry we prefer to have healthcare free for everyone.
Oh we don't worry. Contrary to you it seems we are able to make the difference between facts and emotions. Terrorism deaths in France: about 100 a year. I mean come on, cows kill more people than Islamic terrorism in our country xD
So you want us to spend dozens of millions and get rid of all migrants for a few deaths? Sorry we try to be logical.
I don't forget that about half of our population is unable to distinguish reality from their own emotions. They're terrified without any reasons. French thinks muslims make about 30% of their population which is just... Beyond stupid.
But you can't do much against stupidity sadly :/