French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) - page 1013.

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Quote from: uswa56 on April 05, 2023, 01:18:31 AM

PSG has suffered 2 consecutive defeats but they are still leading the standings with a 6 point advantage over RC Lens which proves that PSG are still very dominating and even though there are several teams such as Marseille, Lens and Monaco starting to rise this season but that does not mean they will be able to break PSG's dominance .

Things are changing quickly for PSG but it is not strange if we look back and see how they struggled to have differences with other competitors after World Cup 2022. By some reasons, they successfully expanded the gaps to safe ones before Round of 16 in Champions League but after that they slipped quickly. It's hard to believe why they lost control in Ligue 1 when they only had it to fight.

Quote from: Getmon on April 05, 2023, 12:26:00 AM

Messi getting a ton of offers from various clubs are undeniably more fascinating in the news. That is harder to predict than PSG to win the Ligue. He thinks about a Barcelona return, but the serious financial situation might prevent him from returning, especially since PSG has made him big offers and Al Hilal, a Saudi Arabian club that pays him 400 euros per year, is too good to pass up.

Al Hilal gave Messi an offer that is 400M Euros per year, 400 million. If that is true, it is doubling the salary Cristiano Ronaldo receives from Al Nassr. Honestly if I am Messi, I won't reject it after getting all titles in my career. Playing in Al Hilal 3 or 4 years and load it 1B to 1.2B Euros to my pocket shortly before a retirement, it's hard to reject.

Quote from: GiftedMAN on April 04, 2023, 02:58:31 PM

First off, I think the PSG team right now needs to focus more on team work than playing individual football which I think is the major problem of the team. Them being on top of the League right now with 6 points gives more room for more competition in the League and with Marseille and Lens fighting so hard to meet and over take them they have nothing then to fight back and get back to good form. They can't really relax right now they will end up losing out in all side and That will be so bad for the huge some of money they spent getting the stars in the team.

Usually in Ligue 1, with over quality players, PSG can easily solve matches there by individual stunning performances of their star players. They often get troubles in Champions League where weakness in their system is exploited by experienced and strong opponents. However, it seems their players no longer have enough motivation to play recent weeks in Ligue 1 or they just wanted to show such poor performance to kick Galtier out as soon as possible.

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Quote from: Distraction on April 04, 2023, 03:10:44 PM

I still see the only team that might be able to catch up with PSG and enter this title competition seriously as Marseille.

Because they are a bigger team than Lens and have a better squad also. This should make difference for them as long as they don't lose their concentration. Because their recent form hasn't been that much impressive. They lost 7 points in their last 5 matches in the league. They could have won against Montpellier and Strasbourg both if they played a little better. This would be enough to carry them right behind PSG. But considering that PSG are an unbalanced team I still give Marseille a chance to catch up for now.

Don't underestimate Lens because this team have a potention to break the domination of strong teams such as Marseille or even Monaco and last season Lens were finish at 7th but now they were joined for race title i think this is good achievement because Lens progress is very rapid and for Marseille last season too they were finish at 2rd and this makes them as strong contender for PSG and this season too it's not so different but they haven't change a lot although Marseille have already changed coach but they still remains unconsistent

Marseille recently lost so many points and i don't know why they cannot performing well against weak teams and the latest is Marseille were unable to win from Strasbourg and Montpellier but there is still time for them to catch up on PSG and all they have to do is try to be consistent in all remaining matches

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Having this type of air in the league where teams do not know if PSG is doing well enough or not, made the rest of them not so great neither. I mean that's what happens when a good team leads the league, because you are not entirely sure if you should chase or not, when you try to chase and they end up with a better result, you feel like you are never going to catch up to them and makes you feel bad, and when you lose and they lose as well, you feel like you missed a big chance and that makes you feel even worse.

Only thing that could make you feel better is to win when they lose and that rarely could happen since they lose so rarely, and that's why it's a hard job.

The Ligue is less interesting than La Liga, the English Premier League, and the Serie. However, after the recent setbacks of PSG, the following clubs, Marseille, Lens, and even Monaco are still in the running for the title.

Messi getting a ton of offers from various clubs are undeniably more fascinating in the news. That is harder to predict than PSG to win the Ligue. He thinks about a Barcelona return, but the serious financial situation might prevent him from returning, especially since PSG has made him big offers and Al Hilal, a Saudi Arabian club that pays him 400 euros per year, is too good to pass up.

PSG has suffered 2 consecutive defeats but they are still leading the standings with a 6 point advantage over RC Lens which proves that PSG are still very dominating and even though there are several teams such as Marseille, Lens and Monaco starting to rise this season but that does not mean they will be able to break PSG's dominance .

and regarding the confusing news about Messi, I think that staying or leaving Messi at the PSG team did not have much effect on the performance of the PSG team, in the 2 seasons he was with PSG we could see that there was not much contribution he was able to make.

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Quote from: hahay on April 04, 2023, 12:56:53 PM

I'm curious, where will Messi go at the end of this season because according to the information I got earlier, that Messi got a new contract at PSG. So, maybe the information is still unclear because with PSG's performance like this, then of course PSG must make an overhaul in their squad and management.

Messi has been refusing a new contract that was already offered by PSG. PSG must have try to adjust its financial to make sure it will able to comply with FFP or it will get a sanction. Messi refuses to accept pay cut in the new contract and this is the reason why he will be leaving from the PSG in summer. The thing that makes me feels so weird is messi already confirmed that if he will accept to cut his salary if barcelona will able to sign him back again.

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However, I believe that the number of star players in a team's squad, I believe this will not make the team's performance worse. Because in my view the factors that make their performance poor are the management factors that are not good enough so that the results obtained are also not optimal.

PSG will be losing some stars at the same time. This will be also greatly impact the performance of the club. PSG has known as a team with weak defense but it has good attacking lines. Since messi and neymar will be gone from PSG. I think that PSG will be the same as another ordinary club in league 1. I see that losing messi gonna give a huge impact on the performance of PSG. You can also try to see how many goals have already been made by messi and whether he has ever helped PSG to win the match too.

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Quote from: FanEagle on April 04, 2023, 04:21:51 PM

Having this type of air in the league where teams do not know if PSG is doing well enough or not, made the rest of them not so great neither. I mean that's what happens when a good team leads the league, because you are not entirely sure if you should chase or not, when you try to chase and they end up with a better result, you feel like you are never going to catch up to them and makes you feel bad, and when you lose and they lose as well, you feel like you missed a big chance and that makes you feel even worse.

Only thing that could make you feel better is to win when they lose and that rarely could happen since they lose so rarely, and that's why it's a hard job.

The Ligue is less interesting than La Liga, the English Premier League, and the Serie. However, after the recent setbacks of PSG, the following clubs, Marseille, Lens, and even Monaco are still in the running for the title.

Messi getting a ton of offers from various clubs are undeniably more fascinating in the news. That is harder to predict than PSG to win the Ligue. He thinks about a Barcelona return, but the serious financial situation might prevent him from returning, especially since PSG has made him big offers and Al Hilal, a Saudi Arabian club that pays him 400 euros per year, is too good to pass up.

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Having this type of air in the league where teams do not know if PSG is doing well enough or not, made the rest of them not so great neither. I mean that's what happens when a good team leads the league, because you are not entirely sure if you should chase or not, when you try to chase and they end up with a better result, you feel like you are never going to catch up to them and makes you feel bad, and when you lose and they lose as well, you feel like you missed a big chance and that makes you feel even worse.

Only thing that could make you feel better is to win when they lose and that rarely could happen since they lose so rarely, and that's why it's a hard job.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on April 04, 2023, 02:58:31 PM

First off, I think the PSG team right now needs to focus more on team work than playing individual football which I think is the major problem of the team. Them being on top of the League right now with 6 points gives more room for more competition in the League and with Marseille and Lens fighting so hard to meet and over take them they have nothing then to fight back and get back to good form. They can't really relax right now they will end up losing out in all side and That will be so bad for the huge some of money they spent getting the stars in the team.

There are times when a match doesn't go according to plan even though they are playing as a team. Individual quality seems also good to expect more collective play between players, but against Lyon I think it was really difficult. I saw Messi several times pass to Mbappe but a bad finishing meant that PSG didn't get a goal.

PSG play as a team now, but there has always been an assumption that conflicts between players are the reason they are not in good form. I don't agree on all assumptions even though I've seen some players being too egotistical with other players.

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I still see the only team that might be able to catch up with PSG and enter this title competition seriously as Marseille.

Because they are a bigger team than Lens and have a better squad also. This should make difference for them as long as they don't lose their concentration. Because their recent form hasn't been that much impressive. They lost 7 points in their last 5 matches in the league. They could have won against Montpellier and Strasbourg both if they played a little better. This would be enough to carry them right behind PSG. But considering that PSG are an unbalanced team I still give Marseille a chance to catch up for now.

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What happening with psg is totally logic, it's seems that the team is totally destroyed because theirs main focus was in the champoins league, the league 1 isn't really a big deal for them and they proof is even with the recent bad results they still 6 points ahead from the second lens

Six points remain from Lenns and Marseille in second and third place in the standings, two consecutive defeats in Ligeu 1 have made PSG's condition even more depressed. Next match will travel to Nice headquarters and this is an opportunity for Galtier to improve the level and weaknesses of the squad he has. If in the next match you get another disappointing result, then the chances of defending the title will be even more difficult and the challengers will be closer to the points they currently have.

PSG's condition under pressure will definitely affect the match for the next few matches, so Lenns and Marseille will definitely try to take advantage of PSG's condition to continue to be in competition. PSG still has a big chance when they are able to evaluate for future matches.

I know you may think PSG finishes this season in first place in the table but from what we can see on the table of this season there are only six points needed by Marseille or Lenns to take this place from them which is not good for a team when they spend millions of dollars to hire best players they can get during this season, just Imagine if PSG loses the first lace of the table what will happen on this team, I'm sure many superstars will leave the team just like Messi.

First off, I think the PSG team right now needs to focus more on team work than playing individual football which I think is the major problem of the team. Them being on top of the League right now with 6 points gives more room for more competition in the League and with Marseille and Lens fighting so hard to meet and over take them they have nothing then to fight back and get back to good form. They can't really relax right now they will end up losing out in all side and That will be so bad for the huge some of money they spent getting the stars in the team.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on April 04, 2023, 12:29:06 PM

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What happening with psg is totally logic, it's seems that the team is totally destroyed because theirs main focus was in the champoins league, the league 1 isn't really a big deal for them and they proof is even with the recent bad results they still 6 points ahead from the second lens

Six points remain from Lenns and Marseille in second and third place in the standings, two consecutive defeats in Ligeu 1 have made PSG's condition even more depressed. Next match will travel to Nice headquarters and this is an opportunity for Galtier to improve the level and weaknesses of the squad he has. If in the next match you get another disappointing result, then the chances of defending the title will be even more difficult and the challengers will be closer to the points they currently have.

PSG's condition under pressure will definitely affect the match for the next few matches, so Lenns and Marseille will definitely try to take advantage of PSG's condition to continue to be in competition. PSG still has a big chance when they are able to evaluate for future matches.

I know you may think PSG finishes this season in first place in the table but from what we can see on the table of this season there are only six points needed by Marseille or Lenns to take this place from them which is not good for a team when they spend millions of dollars to hire best players they can get during this season, just Imagine if PSG loses the first lace of the table what will happen on this team, I'm sure many superstars will leave the team just like Messi.

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Quote from: hahay on April 04, 2023, 12:56:53 PM

I'm curious, where will Messi go at the end of this season because according to the information I got earlier, that Messi got a new contract at PSG. So, maybe the information is still unclear because with PSG's performance like this, then of course PSG must make an overhaul in their squad and management.

However, I believe that the number of star players in a team's squad, I believe this will not make the team's performance worse. Because in my view the factors that make their performance poor are the management factors that are not good enough so that the results obtained are also not optimal.

Perhaps this information is no longer relevant (old)? The only thing I read in the news about Messi's contract with PSG is that the club is offering a pay cut (about 30%) and Messi is refusing. In general, these negotiations are incomprehensible to me at all, since it is obvious that Messi is not suitable for the club already, even in the sense of the brand - even if the PSG fans boo him, why would he play there?
Delirium. But even more nonsense that it seems like Barcelona, against the backdrop of Messi's possible departure from PSG, is trying to find "sponsors" to bring him back. What kind of circus is this? Grin

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 04, 2023, 12:15:47 PM

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Actually PSG failed to win the match despite playing extremely well. The reason for this may be that the team has too many star players or there was something wrong in the management of the coach of the team. Which gets the players in big trouble.

I also don't understand why PSG can lose at home to a mid-table team like Lyon, even though PSG have the best players and even in the first half Lyon had one chance to score a goal through a penalty which was saved by the PSG keeper. But in the second half Lyon again made the lead by scoring one goal and that result was able to bring Lyon to victory even though this result would not affect PSG's position in the Ligue 1 standings.

But I think I know why they lost this game, actually, PSG lost the game against Lyon and they could lose this game even if they were playing against another team because the whole team is not in a good situation at all. They are going to lose Messi at the end of this season and Neymar lost the whole this season because he is still injured in the other hand there is some news about PSG changing the coach soon which can surely have a negative effect on this team.

I'm curious, where will Messi go at the end of this season because according to the information I got earlier, that Messi got a new contract at PSG. So, maybe the information is still unclear because with PSG's performance like this, then of course PSG must make an overhaul in their squad and management.

However, I believe that the number of star players in a team's squad, I believe this will not make the team's performance worse. Because in my view the factors that make their performance poor are the management factors that are not good enough so that the results obtained are also not optimal.

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Actually PSG failed to win the match despite playing extremely well. The reason for this may be that the team has too many star players or there was something wrong in the management of the coach of the team. Which gets the players in big trouble.

I also don't understand why PSG can lose at home to a mid-table team like Lyon, even though PSG have the best players and even in the first half Lyon had one chance to score a goal through a penalty which was saved by the PSG keeper. But in the second half Lyon again made the lead by scoring one goal and that result was able to bring Lyon to victory even though this result would not affect PSG's position in the Ligue 1 standings.

But I think I know why they lost this game, actually, PSG lost the game against Lyon and they could lose this game even if they were playing against another team because the whole team is not in a good situation at all. They are going to lose Messi at the end of this season and Neymar lost the whole this season because he is still injured in the other hand there is some news about PSG changing the coach soon which can surely have a negative effect on this team.

I expected PSG to perform even worse after they got kicked out of the Champions League. When you are a superstar and the only title you are playing for is Ligue 1, I think it is almost normal when you can't push yourself to the limit. That is the disadvantage for PSG and has been a problem for a long time now. They live the whole year for the Champions League, then they get kicked out and they know that there is nothing special about winning Ligue when you have a team that is destined to win the CL. That's why I don't like it when such players go to mediocre leagues because they get paid well. Neymar was a talent wasted and Mbappe is, too. Messi was old enough and has had his career already, but MBappe going. to PSG and staying there for so long is sad to see.

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Quote from: Prince Malik on April 03, 2023, 02:28:53 PM

What happening with psg is totally logic, it's seems that the team is totally destroyed because theirs main focus was in the champoins league, the league 1 isn't really a big deal for them and they proof is even with the recent bad results they still 6 points ahead from the second lens

Six points remain from Lenns and Marseille in second and third place in the standings, two consecutive defeats in Ligeu 1 have made PSG's condition even more depressed. Next match will travel to Nice headquarters and this is an opportunity for Galtier to improve the level and weaknesses of the squad he has. If in the next match you get another disappointing result, then the chances of defending the title will be even more difficult and the challengers will be closer to the points they currently have.

PSG's condition under pressure will definitely affect the match for the next few matches, so Lenns and Marseille will definitely try to take advantage of PSG's condition to continue to be in competition. PSG still has a big chance when they are able to evaluate for future matches.

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Quote from: fadhilz123 on April 04, 2023, 09:59:29 AM

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Actually PSG failed to win the match despite playing extremely well. The reason for this may be that the team has too many star players or there was something wrong in the management of the coach of the team. Which gets the players in big trouble.

I also don't understand why PSG can lose at home to a mid-table team like Lyon, even though PSG have the best players and even in the first half Lyon had one chance to score a goal through a penalty which was saved by the PSG keeper. But in the second half Lyon again made the lead by scoring one goal and that result was able to bring Lyon to victory even though this result would not affect PSG's position in the Ligue 1 standings.

But I think I know why they lost this game, actually, PSG lost the game against Lyon and they could lose this game even if they were playing against another team because the whole team is not in a good situation at all. They are going to lose Messi at the end of this season and Neymar lost the whole this season because he is still injured in the other hand there is some news about PSG changing the coach soon which can surely have a negative effect on this team.

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Quote from: bitgov on April 03, 2023, 06:53:52 PM

Actually PSG failed to win the match despite playing extremely well. The reason for this may be that the team has too many star players or there was something wrong in the management of the coach of the team. Which gets the players in big trouble.

I also don't understand why PSG can lose at home to a mid-table team like Lyon, even though PSG have the best players and even in the first half Lyon had one chance to score a goal through a penalty which was saved by the PSG keeper. But in the second half Lyon again made the lead by scoring one goal and that result was able to bring Lyon to victory even though this result would not affect PSG's position in the Ligue 1 standings.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on April 03, 2023, 06:51:38 PM

i don't think the problem is with Messi and Mbappe not playing well together, i've seen some good chemistry between them in a lot of matches, Messi got that killer pass and Mbappe got the speed, that's an amazing combination, midfield of PSG is weak in my opinion, they really need an upgrade there.

The problem is not that Messi or Mbappe are not playing well, every PSG player has responsibility for the consecutive defeats that PSG have had in the last two matches. PSG players didn't build good chemistry, they played very badly which made them lose 6 points at their base.

As a result of the last defeat that befell PSG at their headquarters, speculation about Messi departure has intensified. PSG fans always booed Messi for not being able to bring PSG through to the quarterfinals of the UCL. Defeats from Rennes and Lyon made Lens manage to close the distance with PSG, now Lens, who is in second place, is only six points away from PSG who are still in first place.

PSG must immediately get out of the slump to secure its position. It looks like Galtier time with PSG won't last long, due to the failure in the UCL and the bad results he continues to achieve in Ligue 1, making the coach chair held by Galtier shake even more.

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The case of Messi is very strange, because I don't know he is a person who has not yet defined where he wants to go or what team he wants, but I am sure that he is not comfortable at PSG, I don't think he will go again either to Barcelona where they took him out through the back door, that is an act of total masochism, what he said seems fine to me, but I hope he doesn't go to the MLS because there he will burn,

After all, Messi's contract with PSG will also end and we won't know which club he will move to because Messi himself has not provided a leak where he will start his contract next season.
It's exactly what you said that Messi seems uncomfortable with PSG and so far there has been no significant development seen from Messi while playing with PSG.
In fact, it would be a shame if a great player like Messi did not join a big, strong team and from the contract previously agreed with PSG, many football observers said that Messi could play epic and make a difference for PSG, but unfortunately all these hopes were not true.
Not only you, but almost all Messi fans and some of his teammates when he was at Barcelona hoped that Messi could make a contract and start playing again with Barcelona until he retires later.

With the current situation of Messi in PSG even if he was still under contract with PSG there was literally no chance for him to keep working there in France, the reason why Messi left Barcelona for PSG was mostly because of his salary and now the main reason for him to say he can't join Barcelona is again his salary, I guess PSG already disappointed of Messi and they are looking for another player to replace him soon.

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Quote from: bitgov on April 03, 2023, 06:53:52 PM

Actually PSG failed to win the match despite playing extremely well. The reason for this may be that the team has too many star players or there was something wrong in the management of the coach of the team. Which gets the players in big trouble.

I think that you are wrong about that. It sounds non sense for a club to have so many great players to lose. You shall try to take a look at another aspect. Messi got so many haters in PSG. some people have been suggesting he move from PSG as soon as possible.
PSG is not a friendly team for him anymore. PSG fans are hating him right now. Messi will have the same fate as neymar. There are so many problems in the club. Even galtier itself didn't even know what happened with the club.

Messi will get mental breakdown if he keeps staying even longer in PSG. Messi has no choice other than leaving from PSG as soon as possible. The problem is barcelona has no money to buy back him. The possible thing for messi to be jobless waiting for an offer to come for him from barcelona.

There are some clubs already announced their interest in messi but messi didn't give a good response. it will be so good if messi move to the arabian league like ronaldo.

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Nice won another draw against Angers, even though a few weeks earlier Nice had also achieved the same result against Lorient, Nantes and Auxerre. This is definitely a bad result, they lost 12 points and only got 4 points during the week. Moreover, Nice could actually compete with Lille, but they were displaced by Rennes and Reims who got better results. I think coach Didier Digard must immediately evaluate the results of this series of draws and make it possible for them to win again in the next match.

The nice team shared points in 4 consecutive matches. Looking at their matches, I think they played only to share points. They also failed to win against Angers, who are at the bottom of the points table. Even Nice's performance in this match was worse than Angers' performance. Nice is very lucky that they managed to get 1 point in this match. Otherwise, the way they performed, they were likely to lose this match.
Nice's next match is against PSG. PSG is a strong team but they are not in good form. The PSG team is now in quite a crisis after losing the last two matches. PSG desperately needs 3 points against Nice. On the other hand, Nice will try to share the points in one more match.

Even though the statistics against Angers, Nice managed to control the ball possession with 64%, but even though they were able to dominate the game sometimes winning results were also very difficult to achieve if they couldn't create many opportunities. What's more, Angers are even superior to shoots on target. It is very clear that Nice's defense has a gap that is wide enough so that the Angers players are free to direct their shots at Nice's goal. For the next match against PSG, I think Nice will try to get full points in this match considering that PSG are still under pressure from poor performance and if Nice can take advantage of this opportunity then they can beat PSG.

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