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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on October 27, 2022, 04:26:22 PM

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On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

I also think both Messi and PSG will benefit from Messi being in Ligue 1. Because PSG's performance this season is more stable and strong than last season. If Messi leaves the team, PSG's performance will become unstable again. So PSG will probably try their best to keep Messi in the team. Rumor has it that Messi is not interested in renewing his contract. However, I have yet to see any credible news regarding which team Messi will join if he leaves PSG. But personally I think Messi will decide to stay at PSG.

It will have to wait a little longer but as for profit issues for both parties I agree with what you are saying.
Until now there has been no further news apart from several media reports that Messi rejected PSG's new offer.
We will have to wait whether Messi will let go of Ideal conditions at PSG now or if he will leave with something that is not certain because if he refuses to extend and return to Barcelona (for example) I am actually still very optimistic about their financial condition.

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Quote from: arimamib on October 27, 2022, 10:47:37 AM

I'm not comparing Ligue 1 to the Champions League. At the point you quoted, I hope PSG can show their best performance in the Champions League as shown in Ligue 1. PSG have long wanted the UCL trophy, they can achieve it if they always appear consistent against tough teams like Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid.

In Ligue 1 there are not many strong teams in every season that PSG have to face, so PSG looks a little easier to lead the Ligue 1 championship this season. For the Champions League it is a slightly different matter because Benfica who are also in the same group with PSG have the same number of points after five games in the group. And both have also qualified for the last 16 at this time, and for the last match in the Champions League group stage PSG and Benfica also have the potential to win because they both face weak teams this season, namely Juventus and Maccabi Haifa.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on October 27, 2022, 01:02:39 PM

Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

So far Lionel Messi is still reluctant to answer how his fate at Paris Saint Germain, stay or leave. It seems he wants to focus first on defending his country in the World Cup. I haven't heard where he would have joined had he not decided to extend his contract with Paris Saint Germain and it is very possible he would return to the team he came from and also make his name big, Barcelona. But it looks like Paris Saint Germain will try everything they can to keep Lionel Messi with them.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on October 27, 2022, 04:19:53 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on October 27, 2022, 01:02:39 PM

Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

I also think both Messi and PSG will benefit from Messi being in Ligue 1. Because PSG's performance this season is more stable and strong than last season. If Messi leaves the team, PSG's performance will become unstable again. So PSG will probably try their best to keep Messi in the team. Rumor has it that Messi is not interested in renewing his contract. However, I have yet to see any credible news regarding which team Messi will join if he leaves PSG. But personally I think Messi will decide to stay at PSG.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on October 27, 2022, 01:02:39 PM

Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

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Quote from: Falconer on October 27, 2022, 11:38:07 AM

When all the players support each other and put the goals of the team forward, then I think the result will be very good. I don't want to talk about how PSG were last season, but I think the players have improved a lot this season while Galtier was in charge.

Statistically, Messi and Neymar this season have improved. Mbappe who became the main striker also contributed to some of Messi and Neymar's goals and vice versa. If the cooperation of these three players continues to increase then maybe PSG will easily win the match. Without ego, PSG players would be good to rely on.

Looking at the results they have this year, it’s hard to say that they are not doing that already. They are winning games, and the big three passes to each other very well and scores very well. Not like they are keeping it from each other, they are actually assisting each other a lot, Messi understood the assignment so well that he doesn't look to shoot but to first looks at passing, and shoots if he sees it fit.

That’s why I feel like all these drama are made up, I always believed that it was made up, sure maybe Mbappe is a bit more childish than the other two because of his age and still being at least as good as them, but that doesn't mean they will be separated right away because of it.

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PSG had a strong squad. Almost all the talented and star players in the squad. However, PSG's performance last season was very poor. The main weakness of the team was that the bonding between their players was very weak and their match strategy was not good. But Galtier has been able to strengthen the bond between the team's players. The understanding between the team players is now much better than before. At the same time, Galtier is working very well to resolve the conflicts between the team players with Mbappe. Mbappe's behavior is changing. He no longer behaves arrogantly and selfishly. PSG's performances have been more consistent in the last few matches.

When all the players support each other and put the goals of the team forward, then I think the result will be very good. I don't want to talk about how PSG were last season, but I think the players have improved a lot this season while Galtier was in charge.

Statistically, Messi and Neymar this season have improved. Mbappe who became the main striker also contributed to some of Messi and Neymar's goals and vice versa. If the cooperation of these three players continues to increase then maybe PSG will easily win the match. Without ego, PSG players would be good to rely on.

But things like this seem to be very difficult for PSG to do because from the start they have been faced with several internal problems that refer to Mbappe and Neymar even though now it's just like exaggerated news.

It would be a different story if they now start to correct mistakes by playing a more solid team so that we who are just spectators will prefer to see the good things and believe that they are able to speak more especially in the Champions League.

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The main reason why Messi can leave PSG is age - his influence is already being felt and even though in Ligue 1 PSG can afford to play not at the maximum/have the optimal composition, in the Champions League it is already too dangerous. The second reason is the salary - Messi receives 41 million a year and this is a significant part of PSG's salary fund. Maybe if Argentina does well in the World Cup, Messi leaves PSG for MLS at the end of the season and thus "leaves at the top" from European football.

Messi had a first season in PSG very bad but in this season, the second season there, he has started to show his importance. We saw that in matches without Messi, PSG had issues to create opportunities and find goals. With Messi, their attacking system works more smoothly and more unpredictable for opponents. Messi scored more goals in this season but his bigger contribution is from key passes and assists to other players.

I feel that Messi does not want to return to Barcelona after all of bad drama he received years ago and after the recent drama against Pique as well as Busquet. Therefore, if PSG want to resign a new contract with Messi, I believe he will be ready to sign it. I also believe that it would very likely to happen as it will be good for both Messi and PSG. They can resign a new contract which last 2 more years.

Also important, Messi will retire from his national team after the World Cup so that he will fully focus on his club for last years of his career.

Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

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Quote from: kro55 on October 27, 2022, 11:09:02 AM

PSG had a strong squad. Almost all the talented and star players in the squad. However, PSG's performance last season was very poor. The main weakness of the team was that the bonding between their players was very weak and their match strategy was not good. But Galtier has been able to strengthen the bond between the team's players. The understanding between the team players is now much better than before. At the same time, Galtier is working very well to resolve the conflicts between the team players with Mbappe. Mbappe's behavior is changing. He no longer behaves arrogantly and selfishly. PSG's performances have been more consistent in the last few matches.

When all the players support each other and put the goals of the team forward, then I think the result will be very good. I don't want to talk about how PSG were last season, but I think the players have improved a lot this season while Galtier was in charge.

Statistically, Messi and Neymar this season have improved. Mbappe who became the main striker also contributed to some of Messi and Neymar's goals and vice versa. If the cooperation of these three players continues to increase then maybe PSG will easily win the match. Without ego, PSG players would be good to rely on.

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Quote from: Falconer on October 27, 2022, 10:17:55 AM

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PSG's target is to win the UCL and they will continue to make every effort to achieve that with the amount of money they have.
for now the PSG squad is very qualified to achieve this target, they have the MNM trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe who are of very good quality even they are the best strikers in the world today and also have several other star players in all positions.
but if this target is not achieved this season or next it is not impossible that there will be a major overhaul at the PSG club, they have a lot of money and they can do anything to improve their squad.

There has been a good improvement from PSG this season especially in terms of teamwork. In the Champions League they have proven that good player collaboration produces good results too. I see Galtier being able to make the difference for his team even though it's not perfect, but this season Neymar, Messi and Mbappe seem to get along in the match.
If PSG perform consistently as they are now, it will be difficult to beat them. PSG's goal is to win titles, that's something that has been stated time and time again every season. However, their journey to the final is not always easy.

PSG had a strong squad. Almost all the talented and star players in the squad. However, PSG's performance last season was very poor. The main weakness of the team was that the bonding between their players was very weak and their match strategy was not good. But Galtier has been able to strengthen the bond between the team's players. The understanding between the team players is now much better than before. At the same time, Galtier is working very well to resolve the conflicts between the team players with Mbappe. Mbappe's behavior is changing. He no longer behaves arrogantly and selfishly. PSG's performances have been more consistent in the last few matches.

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Quote from: casperBGD on October 25, 2022, 02:38:44 PM

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PSG is very easy to beat their opponents, especially in Ligue 1 if Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are well connected. The same situation must be applied to Galtier in the Champions League, team cohesiveness and supported by the best performances can take PSG to go further in the Champions League.

man, you cannot compare Ligue 1 and Champions league, in any way

it is easy to dominate in Ligue 1, first because it is season long, so each mistake can be outdone later on, and quality is far lower than CL, and in Champions league one game can decide everything, they will pass group stage, but they lack quality and mental strength to reach final stages against tough competitors, like Real, City or Bayern

I'm not comparing Ligue 1 to the Champions League. At the point you quoted, I hope PSG can show their best performance in the Champions League as shown in Ligue 1. PSG have long wanted the UCL trophy, they can achieve it if they always appear consistent against tough teams like Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 26, 2022, 10:32:14 AM

While there is some conversation about Messi's future at PSG I'd also like to add some information about it.

It is claimed that PSG have already offered a one-year extension to Messi. They want to act quick and do their best to keep Messi in the team. Because since he adapted to PSG's system he has been one of the biggest contributors of the team with not only goals but also assists. PSG don't want to see the trio disbanding by the end of this season. They are already worried about Mbappe's future at the team. If Mbappe and Messi both leaves I assume Neymar also wouldn't like to stay anymore. This would change the destiny of the team completely for certain. Grin

Not any agreement clause with Lionel Messi contract first time arrived at PSG with one year extended after his contract ended, seems still have potential for Lionel Messi leave PSG after his contract ended at June 2023, depending later with new agreement reach both site maybe before January window transfer opening, actually give one years contract extended for Lionel Messi is not worth offering because Messi has quite performance with PSG. Realistic need to give 2 years contract extended for Lionel Messi if want keep stay with PSG.

Mbappe still have contract until 2025 and I don't think any crazy team want to sign in him because need to pay most expensive transfer values and have to pay higher salary received than with PSG. I think keep secure with Mbappe without leaving PSG but I doubt with Lionel Messi want extended contract with PSG or return to Barcelona.

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PSG's target is to win the UCL and they will continue to make every effort to achieve that with the amount of money they have.
for now the PSG squad is very qualified to achieve this target, they have the MNM trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe who are of very good quality even they are the best strikers in the world today and also have several other star players in all positions.
but if this target is not achieved this season or next it is not impossible that there will be a major overhaul at the PSG club, they have a lot of money and they can do anything to improve their squad.

There has been a good improvement from PSG this season especially in terms of teamwork. In the Champions League they have proven that good player collaboration produces good results too. I see Galtier being able to make the difference for his team even though it's not perfect, but this season Neymar, Messi and Mbappe seem to get along in the match.

If PSG perform consistently as they are now, it will be difficult to beat them. PSG's goal is to win titles, that's something that has been stated time and time again every season. However, their journey to the final is not always easy.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 27, 2022, 10:00:20 AM

When it comes to the Champions League title chance of PSG I think that there is a big doubt there.

Because they struggled against Benfica quite a lot in the group and couldn't beat them in both matchups. This makes me question their future performance against much bigger teams. I know that they got an enormous win like 7-2 over Maccabi Haifa recently but this doesn't mean much to me. Because it was already a weak opponent so there is nothing to be surprised of. They just need to improve their effort more against big teams. They are already comfortable in the Ligue 1 so they should be more focused as of last 16 round in the Champions League.

PSG are very lucky to have one of the spectacular GOAT in their team. The parisians can go far this season, because they're cooperating together and a good chemistry among the players. I can't stop praising Messi, he is a phenomenon and every player wishes to play along side with him. Barça fans chanting that they needs leo Messi back to the team after failing to qualifying for the round of 16 in the champions league. Leo Messi performance in UEFEA is stunning and outstanding. Their last game, they won 7-2 against Meccabi Haifa, all credits goes to Leo Messi which his presence made a positive impact on the game.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 27, 2022, 10:00:20 AM

When it comes to the Champions League title chance of PSG I think that there is a big doubt there.

Because they struggled against Benfica quite a lot in the group and couldn't beat them in both matchups. This makes me question their future performance against much bigger teams. I know that they got an enormous win like 7-2 over Maccabi Haifa recently but this doesn't mean much to me. Because it was already a weak opponent so there is nothing to be surprised of. They just need to improve their effort more against big teams. They are already comfortable in the Ligue 1 so they should be more focused as of last 16 round in the Champions League.

I personally don't have high hopes for this because even though they are quite good in terms of individual abilities, they still have many gaps in teamwork which makes this a little difficult for them.
PSG don't lack great players but they lack trust between each other which makes it difficult for them to talk much at Champions League level.

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When it comes to the Champions League title chance of PSG I think that there is a big doubt there.

Because they struggled against Benfica quite a lot in the group and couldn't beat them in both matchups. This makes me question their future performance against much bigger teams. I know that they got an enormous win like 7-2 over Maccabi Haifa recently but this doesn't mean much to me. Because it was already a weak opponent so there is nothing to be surprised of. They just need to improve their effort more against big teams. They are already comfortable in the Ligue 1 so they should be more focused as of last 16 round in the Champions League.

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PSG's target is to win the UCL and they will continue to make every effort to achieve that with the amount of money they have.
for now the PSG squad is very qualified to achieve this target, they have the MNM trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe who are of very good quality even they are the best strikers in the world today and also have several other star players in all positions.
but if this target is not achieved this season or next it is not impossible that there will be a major overhaul at the PSG club, they have a lot of money and they can do anything to improve their squad.

Winning the UCL is not only seen from the number of star players in a team like PSG, but the solidity and cooperation of the players themselves must also be present, and having to be able to carry out the directions of their coach will also be a big influence for this. You can see for yourself in the example of the team that won the UCL last season, they were all so solid and compact in every game they played in the UCL.

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Quote from: zuzie on October 27, 2022, 02:31:36 AM

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The competition is no longer an honor for the team from Paris. They only want one thing and that is to win the Champions League. It could be interesting for 2nd place. Incidentally, PSG has started to play football a lot better since there is a new coach. He has things in order and Psg seems to be better now than ever before.

Mauricio Pochettino's failure in the Champions League last season give an important lesson for the Paris Saint-Germain team to improve the main squad, including in the coach chair.
Finish in the round of 16 is Paris Saint-Germain's worst achievement since the last two seasons
This failure provide an opportunity for Christophe Galtier as a new coach, we will soon see Galtier's quality in controlling PSG, especially in the Champions League

Yes, their move to change coaches is expected to bring higher achievements. Actually we don't need to talk about their domestic league because on paper and anyone who sees them will have the belief that they are champions in Ligue 1. What they need to prove is in the Champions League because they have never felt lifting that prestigious trophy. But honestly I still have my doubts over them in this Champions League.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 26, 2022, 03:06:45 PM

As we know that Paris Saint Germain is very ambitious to be able to have star players in their squad. And now they will definitely do everything possible to keep the star players who are now in the squad as part of them. They will not care how much money they will spend to keep the players from leaving. But of course it will be the decision of their players to stay or choose to leave and find a new club.
Lionel Messi has been tipped to return to the club he came from, and chances are he will. We'll wait and see.

After getting a big won a day ago, the owner thinking hard to hold the squad, especially the trio MNM (Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe) on PSG maybe for the next 2-3 years. Maybe this is the strategy for business also while the club created the achievement, and this is to make the target change to how to get a double winner for this session. And Messi, Many speculations to him being back, but I thing it's not for this year, may be possible for the next session or if he were able to get in what the owner's target want.

On several occasions, Messi has stated. he has no intention of extending his service with PSG once his contract expires in 2022/2023. so Barcelona does not need to spend a budget as a dowry to bring him from PSG.
after all, Messi doesn't really care about the salary offered by the PSG president even though it is fantastic. he, already has everything, what he needs is two trophies at once as a service with PSG.

As for Mbappe, as we know, almost every week there are rumors linking Mbappe's move from PSG and always make headlines in the sports media. however, it looks like he will stay with PSG especially if his salary is increased.
one Neymar, since last summer's transfer window. he, always linked in the list of names in the transfer market, his whereabouts at PSG for next season is still gray.

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Quote from: safari88 on October 26, 2022, 03:28:47 PM

The competition is no longer an honor for the team from Paris. They only want one thing and that is to win the Champions League. It could be interesting for 2nd place. Incidentally, PSG has started to play football a lot better since there is a new coach. He has things in order and Psg seems to be better now than ever before.

Mauricio Pochettino's failure in the Champions League last season give an important lesson for the Paris Saint-Germain team to improve the main squad, including in the coach chair.
Finish in the round of 16 is Paris Saint-Germain's worst achievement since the last two seasons
This failure provide an opportunity for Christophe Galtier as a new coach, we will soon see Galtier's quality in controlling PSG, especially in the Champions League

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