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Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

The trio on paper is the best in the world currently. They can do really big things if they want too. Problem with Neymar is that he either dosent want to play or gets injured and that is the main problem for him. While Messi still needs time i guess to play at his elite level

I agree with your statement partly because right now still these three are one of the best in their business but as currently things are not going in favor of Neymar it's problem for him and PSG management they are desperate for offloading him but have no better choice and system to do this in very quick time he has never been ideal player here in this team with his behavior and things which are he doing here now as PSG management is sticking with few policies it's going to be hard for him to do his best and stay here otherwise it's going to be more problems for him with his lavish salary no other club can afford him and his game is also going down day by day which is another concern for management.

Personally, I believe Messi will not be able to perform very well unless the midfield of the team is proficient at passing. It is true that both Messi and Neymar are not in their prime anymore. But they can still play at the top level of any competition. If PSG just wants to win the league one title, they won't necessarily need these two players to perform very well.

But if they want to win the Champions League title, not only these two players but also the whole team will need to come forward and play as a team. Otherwise, the Champions League title is not for them. And if they do not win the Champions League, then there is no point in anything. Because they are going to claim the league title anyway without much of a competition.

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Today Neymar has clarify regarding his rumours linked to Man City and Chelsea that in PSG he was happy and want to stayed and help PSG to win more trophies but he will respect every decisions made by PSG whether they will decided to sell him or not and on the other hand PSG almost deal for transfer Nordi Mukiele from RB Leipzig that the fee for this player is 12 millions Euro plus 4 million Euro bonus and reported currently PSG and Mukiele agent will discuss about contract detail

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Obviously, Neymar is not leaving PSG now, the luxury that PSG offers is hard to come by with other clubs. One of the reasons Neymar moved from Barcelona because PSG offered double the salary he received at Barcelona. PSG ambition to win the title on the Europa stage is no joke, PSG are willing to spend large sums of money to achieve their dreams, including extending the contract of Neymar who does not always appear consistent as the most expensive player PSG has ever had.

The contract was extended automatically. As I understand it, the only option that could prevent the automatic extension is the desire of the player, but Neymar wants to stay at PSG. After dissatisfaction with him at the club, he made several loud statements that everything would be fine next season ... but I don’t even know if he can keep his promises even if he wants to - the next season will be broken by holding the World Cup and what this will lead to is unknown .

It will continue to be a dream that will be hard to come true if PSG players remain like this.They have been disunited for sometimes now and want that unity back.They really need a coach that will not be afraid of their personnel or the calibre of person they are.They have the ambition of winning the UEFA champions league,but that will totally be a very hard nut to crack because of the issues they continue having at the club.A coach that will change strategy,formation and style of player is what they want.

I have been pleasantly surprised by the performance Neymar has shown at PSG. I think I can safely say that his performance at PSG has been below par by his standards. But that is not going to bother too many people because PSG is obviously going to win the league title quite easily. For PSG, the Champions League trophy is their main goal, but they have not been able to achieve it. PSG is spending almost everything to win the Champions League title. And we can say that the midfield of PSG is not the most impressive. As a whole, PSG's squad is unbeatable in my opinion.

Anyway, Neymar has also not been performing well in the Champions League with PSG as well. And a few injuries also did not help the cause at all.

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It seems that psg team started their friendly games with much weaker opponents but still they had difficulties against kawasaki frontale a well know japanese team they had a good performance offensively but their defense seem to have issues still, maybe because their new manager is still figuring the best strategy. On the otherhand lyon finaly managed to win a friendly game against feyenoord after two humiliating defeats against anderlecht 3 0 and willem II 5 0, honestly its not looking good for them their fans must be angry.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on July 24, 2022, 01:53:25 PM

There is no doubt that Neymar is a talented player. But he was sidelined for more than half of the season due to injuries. PSG does not pay him such high wages to stay off the field. However, if Neymar does not face any major injuries next season, he will definitely prove his ability. Neymar even has the qualification of being the highest scorer in Ligue 1.

In recent times, we have very long talk about few things like PSG new coach and Neymar with this all now I am feeling this is going to be very crucial season for these all because PSG after spending good amount and having too many stars still fail to have any good result in UEFA which is big question mark for them so now if they still fail and have not good success then surely we are going to have some big changes in all departments even most chances management sell this club as now they are already fed-up with this all and having not good interest.

Because, they have never been good at managing this all and with on and off the field issues are always giving them good headache recently we check they try to sell Neymar but with his salary no club wants to accept him which is also a big problem for them now we have to wait for final turn in this season how things happened for them.

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The trio on paper is the best in the world currently. They can do really big things if they want too. Problem with Neymar is that he either dosent want to play or gets injured and that is the main problem for him. While Messi still needs time i guess to play at his elite level

I agree with your statement partly because right now still these three are one of the best in their business but as currently things are not going in favor of Neymar it's problem for him and PSG management they are desperate for offloading him but have no better choice and system to do this in very quick time he has never been ideal player here in this team with his behavior and things which are he doing here now as PSG management is sticking with few policies it's going to be hard for him to do his best and stay here otherwise it's going to be more problems for him with his lavish salary no other club can afford him and his game is also going down day by day which is another concern for management.

I think it is not about Neymar, the issue is with PSG. I get that he might have been injured for a while now and that made it harder for PSG to justify the amount of money they are paying to him. But he is still an amazing superstar when he plays, and that is why I think they should let him rest and when he recovers he is going to keep playing more games and he would be something special for sure.
I believe that we shouldn't really be considering him as a player who doesn't deserve to play in PSG, he totally does and when he does you will end up seeing him and how he plays and that is why I guess that we will understand why it was a good thing that they kept him.

There is no doubt that Neymar is a talented player. But he was sidelined for more than half of the season due to injuries. PSG does not pay him such high wages to stay off the field. However, if Neymar does not face any major injuries next season, he will definitely prove his ability. Neymar even has the qualification of being the highest scorer in Ligue 1.

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The trio on paper is the best in the world currently. They can do really big things if they want too. Problem with Neymar is that he either dosent want to play or gets injured and that is the main problem for him. While Messi still needs time i guess to play at his elite level

I agree with your statement partly because right now still these three are one of the best in their business but as currently things are not going in favor of Neymar it's problem for him and PSG management they are desperate for offloading him but have no better choice and system to do this in very quick time he has never been ideal player here in this team with his behavior and things which are he doing here now as PSG management is sticking with few policies it's going to be hard for him to do his best and stay here otherwise it's going to be more problems for him with his lavish salary no other club can afford him and his game is also going down day by day which is another concern for management.

I think it is not about Neymar, the issue is with PSG. I get that he might have been injured for a while now and that made it harder for PSG to justify the amount of money they are paying to him. But he is still an amazing superstar when he plays, and that is why I think they should let him rest and when he recovers he is going to keep playing more games and he would be something special for sure.

I believe that we shouldn't really be considering him as a player who doesn't deserve to play in PSG, he totally does and when he does you will end up seeing him and how he plays and that is why I guess that we will understand why it was a good thing that they kept him.

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In PSG when a certain player is in the final third of the field they really don't want to look up and pass the ball.

But in Barcelona, it almost felt like Messi knew what his teammates were about to do. And he positioned himself accordingly. The frustration of Lionel Messi is quite visible at times in PSG. Honestly, I don't think his poor form is apt to change unless he is playing the passing game that he is used to. He is not in his element unless he does so.

Spot on observation! They train you at Barca to always look up, so you have a team at least the top half of it constantly looking and being aware of space and opportunity, that's why the off ball movement is so great.

PSG players tend to even want to look down or pass instinctively, and it doesn't come off the way they expect. Messi seems to be the only one doing thinking 10 seconds ahead and everyone is just living in the moment.

That means they are more likely to shoot than pass, if Messi seems to be in a better position then the player doesn't shoot. Maybe they thought that shooting straight at goal would be a good result, in fact if we consider how Messi plays at Barcelona even when the ball is in front of goal, more often than not the ball is passed to players who are in better positions. That way, at least the rate of entering the ball becomes more promising but yes, after all it depends on the situation and conditions at the same time.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 23, 2022, 03:50:40 PM

Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

The days of Messi and Neymar ate almost over.
PSG has to play to build Mbappe up very much than any other player.
What's more important is the Champions League. Isn't that cool to see neymar and Messi staying

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 23, 2022, 03:50:40 PM

Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

The trio on paper is the best in the world currently. They can do really big things if they want too. Problem with Neymar is that he either dosent want to play or gets injured and that is the main problem for him. While Messi still needs time i guess to play at his elite level

messi can cooperate with neymar but mbappe the news is that until now he still can't be friends with neymar and this is still a very tough homework for the management and coach of PSG. the issue of the rift between mbappe and neymar was heard when mbappe told management not to renew neymar's contract, he didn't really like neymar's bad character.

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Quote from: Minecache on July 23, 2022, 01:59:22 PM

In PSG when a certain player is in the final third of the field they really don't want to look up and pass the ball.

But in Barcelona, it almost felt like Messi knew what his teammates were about to do. And he positioned himself accordingly. The frustration of Lionel Messi is quite visible at times in PSG. Honestly, I don't think his poor form is apt to change unless he is playing the passing game that he is used to. He is not in his element unless he does so.

Spot on observation! They train you at Barca to always look up, so you have a team at least the top half of it constantly looking and being aware of space and opportunity, that's why the off ball movement is so great.

PSG players tend to even want to look down or pass instinctively, and it doesn't come off the way they expect. Messi seems to be the only one doing thinking 10 seconds ahead and everyone is just living in the moment.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 23, 2022, 04:11:47 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 23, 2022, 03:50:40 PM

Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

The trio on paper is the best in the world currently. They can do really big things if they want too. Problem with Neymar is that he either dosent want to play or gets injured and that is the main problem for him. While Messi still needs time i guess to play at his elite level

I agree with your statement partly because right now still these three are one of the best in their business but as currently things are not going in favor of Neymar it's problem for him and PSG management they are desperate for offloading him but have no better choice and system to do this in very quick time he has never been ideal player here in this team with his behavior and things which are he doing here now as PSG management is sticking with few policies it's going to be hard for him to do his best and stay here otherwise it's going to be more problems for him with his lavish salary no other club can afford him and his game is also going down day by day which is another concern for management.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 23, 2022, 03:50:40 PM

Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

The trio on paper is the best in the world currently. They can do really big things if they want too. Problem with Neymar is that he either dosent want to play or gets injured and that is the main problem for him. While Messi still needs time i guess to play at his elite level

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Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

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All football players will experience a decline in performance as he ages, Messi has already passed the peak of glory during his career as a football player. Now he is looking at the remnants of his time as a player before deciding to hang up his boots. He is a bit lucky when compared to his rivals, PSG can give Messi the opportunity to continue to lift the title at the end of the season. While Ronaldo is struggling to get out of Manchester United, but unfortunately there is no club that is interested in using his services.

Messi was a great striker in Barcelona and scored a lot of goals, but after moving to PSG, he began to score much less, a lot of time between this transfer did not pass, he did not become much older. Therefore, I think that it is not the player, but the team. And if Messi could now move to another club, perhaps he would return his efficiency, and in PSG to realize himself in such a big rivalry not ease.

Messi wasn't a striker, he scored a lot of goals but a striker he was not. He is mainly a winger, or plays behind the striker, at the "10" position famously. You could check his positions in football manager or fifanad you will see that he is mainly a RW but could play at AMC position as well (attacking midfield center) and that is where he shines.

In PSG he played in the right wing as well, but he couldn't get into the middle like he normally would. That is not based on him or anything, that's based on how he is not used to playing with the other players there and the other players there weren't used to him, the more they play together the better they will be.

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The performance of the trio at PSG is going to be the thing that we are going to be very curious about. Messi and Neymar especially will need to show much better performances to be able to help the team reach their goal in the Champions League especially. They are already a huge favourite for the title in the Ligue 1. Neymar is staying as it seems so he should do his best for the team. I hope that he doesn't have any serious injury this time. Messi improved his performance a lot after some time. But he still needs to do better than this. Maybe it isn't easy for him to go back to his times at Barcelona but PSG need his best now.

I saw players who joined Paris Saint Germain failed to give their best, failed I didn't mean failed to contribute, but their game was below their standard. I'm not sure about this, but I think as long as they don't have good chemistry between the players then they certainly won't find a change. One more role of the coach at PSG is still in question.

As we all know having big players are never been guarantee for winning titles or having better results you have to settle things in good way with very strong strategy for bringing good results is also very important for any club right now we have no positive things at PSG with few players are not following discipline, and they are also treated in good way by management which is big concern and having not good results.

Even recently we have news that management is not happy with Neymar, but sadly they can't do anything with having contract until 2025 and wager is also very high which is not acceptable for any other club even Manchester City decline offer from PSG for exchange of Neymar for Bernard Silva which is very important player for them.

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All football players will experience a decline in performance as he ages, Messi has already passed the peak of glory during his career as a football player. Now he is looking at the remnants of his time as a player before deciding to hang up his boots. He is a bit lucky when compared to his rivals, PSG can give Messi the opportunity to continue to lift the title at the end of the season. While Ronaldo is struggling to get out of Manchester United, but unfortunately there is no club that is interested in using his services.

Messi was a great striker in Barcelona and scored a lot of goals, but after moving to PSG, he began to score much less, a lot of time between this transfer did not pass, he did not become much older. Therefore, I think that it is not the player, but the team. And if Messi could now move to another club, perhaps he would return his efficiency, and in PSG to realize himself in such a big rivalry not ease.

After watching some gameplay of Lionel Messi at PSG, I am quite certain that he is unable to adapt to the playstyle. I also believe that he is really missing the link-up play that he was so used to when he was in Barcelona. In PSG when a certain player is in the final third of the field they really don't want to look up and pass the ball.

But in Barcelona, it almost felt like Messi knew what his teammates were about to do. And he positioned himself accordingly. The frustration of Lionel Messi is quite visible at times in PSG. Honestly, I don't think his poor form is apt to change unless he is playing the passing game that he is used to. He is not in his element unless he does so.

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Quote from: arimamib on July 23, 2022, 04:28:08 AM

All football players will experience a decline in performance as he ages, Messi has already passed the peak of glory during his career as a football player. Now he is looking at the remnants of his time as a player before deciding to hang up his boots. He is a bit lucky when compared to his rivals, PSG can give Messi the opportunity to continue to lift the title at the end of the season. While Ronaldo is struggling to get out of Manchester United, but unfortunately there is no club that is interested in using his services.

Messi was a great striker in Barcelona and scored a lot of goals, but after moving to PSG, he began to score much less, a lot of time between this transfer did not pass, he did not become much older. Therefore, I think that it is not the player, but the team. And if Messi could now move to another club, perhaps he would return his efficiency, and in PSG to realize himself in such a big rivalry not ease.

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It's time for Leo Messi to open his preseason account against Kawasaki. A new season brings a new beginning. In the game of football, Messi is one of the legends. When the season begins, you never know what he will become. When Messi looks like this, I love it. It looks like he is prepared for the season. This season, he should be able to accomplish more than ever before.

I believe you know that the Messi of before is no longer the Messi of now again? Yes, he may be very much ready for the new season but we should not expect him to do his usual magic on the field of play because age is no longer on his side. Messi is a legend no doubt but judging from his performance last season with his new club PSG, I think it's time for him to take a bow because his presence is no longer seen as a big problem to defenders. I doubt if he can accomplish more than he has done before according to you because a lot of young players are rising every day and their strength can not be compared to that of Messi who is aged and still trying to perform better.

All football players will experience a decline in performance as he ages, Messi has already passed the peak of glory during his career as a football player. Now he is looking at the remnants of his time as a player before deciding to hang up his boots. He is a bit lucky when compared to his rivals, PSG can give Messi the opportunity to continue to lift the title at the end of the season. While Ronaldo is struggling to get out of Manchester United, but unfortunately there is no club that is interested in using his services.

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Quote from: blue Snow on July 22, 2022, 07:27:17 PM

Actually, Neymar is good but ManCity doesn't need him at the moment because has bought Haaland. As you said, it will be a conflict of interest for the team. Maybe Neymar isn't compatible with the Gartier scheme so they want to sell it. but Neymar is still comfortable, he won't go because no other club wants to pay him a high salary, maybe if Neymar has to go, Hollywood is good because his acting is good also.

Hollywood? Yes he should be there playing roles with famous artists, LOL Cheesy

. BTW, I don't agree with you about Manchester City not needing Neymar there. Haaland is a striker while Neymar plays on the left wing. As we know that the left wing of Manchester City is Foden and Grealish, and IMO, they are not good enough for Manchester City.

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