Friend gives wallet seed to stranger and bitcoins disappear from his wallet - page 3.

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Quote from: mr.mister on October 22, 2017, 02:23:45 PM

Quote from: V!cious on October 22, 2017, 02:20:01 PM

How did that person get in touch with your chap? a person who has 2.6 BTC in his wallet should have been more careful the stranger probably ran away with the BTC by now the chances of getting his Bitcoin is close to zero.

My friend apparently got in touch with the stranger at a bar that is known to have a lot of bitcoiners around.

Yes, get in touch with the Police right away, the sooner the better. If he actually met the person in a bar, there very well might be surveillance video of the person in question, or at least of him walking in/out of the place that your friend can review with the police and help identify him. But, some establishments overwrite their tapes or hard drives as they fill up, so the sooner you act the better the chance that this type of evidence will still exist. Also, there may be other people who frequent the bar, or one of the bartenders or waitresses that might know who this stranger is, but again this would be more of a job for the Police. The amount involved makes it a significant enough crime you may actually get someone out there to investigate the place and snoop around, as if he ripped you off he very well may have ripped others off as well.

Agamemnus

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Oh man that is terrible you should never give away your 12 word seed! You should memorize it and store it in a safe place but never do that as that is access to all your coins!

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That really sucks, your friend was obviously pretty new to bitcoin if they handed this information over, as much as we can all say how silly that was this highlights a problem that many newbies could face.

If somebody just buys bitcoin without any knowledge of how it works and then an issue arises they are more likely to put trust into somebody with more knowledge than themselves to help fix the issue and this is where a problem like this can arise.

I know most wallets warn you whem setting up to never share your keys with anyone as they contain your bitcoins etc.so there is a lot of responsibility on the user to protect their coins.

I think it is fair to say that your friend will never get their coins back sadly.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on October 22, 2017, 03:26:14 PM

The story sounds quite difficult to believe for me, and I learned a long time ago that you shouldn’t believe everything you read in a forum. However, that there are some possibilities that that could have happened, whether to your friend or someone else.

What I don’t get is: did your friend go to the bar with the seeds written on a piece of paper? Always keep your money away from strangers. The fewer people know that you have money, the better, even acquittances.

Quote from: asmythirl on October 22, 2017, 03:21:22 PM

Would your friend also give a stranger his fiat wallet with $10000 in it and then wonder if he will get it back?

Yes, I was thinking something like that. Not the fiat wallet but the password and the coordinates card or other security feature.

@Don Pedro

apparently, you did not read the whole post. I clearly stated that my friend asked for help with his wallet (at a bar where bitcoiners frequent), and the stranger gave him instructions on how to get the seed out of the wallet, but you would have had to read to figure that out.

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Quote from: soy on October 22, 2017, 03:28:55 PM

The lesson is expensive but at least it is clear. However, it is repeated very regularly, and above all it makes sense... But you should NEVER give away your private key or even your seed. As far as his chances of recovering his bitcoins are concerned, they are zero. This is one of the interests of the blockchain...

It's similar like I gave my bank details to a stranger and money gone after few minutes. I know your friend is tricked and thousand people are tricked every day. Hope your friend able to Identify the guy who was talking to him and able to prove he was the guy talking to me and stole all my money.

Your friend should go for all the possible ways to Identify him as he personally met him and this is quite rare, maybe we are able to find much more lost funds with the help of that guy.
Please keep us updated with the details I want to see the end of that scammer.

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The lesson is expensive but at least it is clear. However, it is repeated very regularly, and above all it makes sense... But you should NEVER give away your private key or even your seed. As far as his chances of recovering his bitcoins are concerned, they are zero. This is one of the interests of the blockchain...

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The story sounds quite difficult to believe for me, and I learned a long time ago that you shouldn’t believe everything you read in a forum. However, that there are some possibilities that that could have happened, whether to your friend or someone else.

What I don’t get is: did your friend go to the bar with the seeds written on a piece of paper? Always keep your money away from strangers. The fewer people know that you have money, the better, even acquittances.

Quote from: asmythirl on October 22, 2017, 03:21:22 PM

Would your friend also give a stranger his fiat wallet with $10000 in it and then wonder if he will get it back?

Yes, I was thinking something like that. Not the fiat wallet but the password and the coordinates card or other security feature.

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Quote from: asmythirl on October 22, 2017, 03:21:22 PM

Would your friend also give a stranger his fiat wallet with $10000 in it and then wonder if he will get it back?

My friend is obviously an idiot, but I am waiting for the pain to subside a bit before I tell him.

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Would your friend also give a stranger his fiat wallet with $10000 in it and then wonder if he will get it back?

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If Bitcoin is legalized in your country you should go to the nearest police station to report about this but if it's not I think your friend should forget his 2.6 BTC cause there are no change to get it back. You and your friend should remember that wallet Sheet and Privatekey are two thing you should keep safe cause if anyone know these two thing they can easily steal your Bitcoin in your wallet.

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That would be so hard tracking him down since he is a Stranger! No name, nothing. Devastation is all I can see from the part of the person who gave his seed imaging Ive lost my bitcoin which I worked hard for

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Quote from: mr.mister on October 22, 2017, 02:34:01 PM

Quote from: Mallingo98 on October 22, 2017, 02:29:35 PM

Quote from: mr.mister on October 22, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Quote from: Mallingo98 on October 22, 2017, 02:14:25 PM

I'd say the chances of him getting anything back is about 0%. It is definitely an expensive learning mistake though...

Should he file a Police report on this? He has not done so yet. Is there a chance the stranger could get nabbed when he goes to cash in at an exchange?

It depends on which country. However, it is most likely that the Police will not able to do anything about it. I think I would personally give it a try though.

Considering how much money it is, I would also try and find out who this "stranger" is. It should be possible if they met in person as you described. Perhaps someone at the local bar knows the guy.

The value was over $15,000 my friend is out. He is majorly bummed right now. He is getting ready to call authorities as well as try to i.d. the stranger.

He just told me the bitcoins disappeared from his wallet within minutes of him giving out his wallet seed. He is in the states.

I totally understand his frustration... I wish him the best of luck with the police report and finding the guy who did this.

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Quote from: mr.mister on October 22, 2017, 02:09:29 PM

A friend who asked for instructions on how to use certain features of his wallet, was apparently tricked into divulging his seed to a stranger, and now his 2.6 btc are missing from the wallet, and so is the stranger. Does he have any recourse?

Well, how dump is your friend. Anyone who has bitcoin should know that seeds are the key of bitcoins( just like the key of the house). Would you ever give your keys to your house to a stranger. Then how can you give bitcoin seed to a stranger. He must be enjoying the free money Sad

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I cannot even begin to describe how accurately the title of this thread describes what happens when you give your wallet seed away to strangers! Cheesy

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Quote from: Mallingo98 on October 22, 2017, 02:29:35 PM

Quote from: mr.mister on October 22, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Quote from: Mallingo98 on October 22, 2017, 02:14:25 PM

I'd say the chances of him getting anything back is about 0%. It is definitely an expensive learning mistake though...

Should he file a Police report on this? He has not done so yet. Is there a chance the stranger could get nabbed when he goes to cash in at an exchange?

It depends on which country. However, it is most likely that the Police will not able to do anything about it. I think I would personally give it a try though.

Considering how much money it is, I would also try and find out who this "stranger" is. It should be possible if they met in person as you described. Perhaps someone at the local bar knows the guy.

The value was over $15,000 my friend is out. He is majorly bummed right now. He is getting ready to call authorities as well as try to i.d. the stranger.

He just told me the bitcoins disappeared from his wallet within minutes of him giving out his wallet seed. He is in the states.

Mallingo98

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Quote from: mr.mister on October 22, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Quote from: Mallingo98 on October 22, 2017, 02:14:25 PM

I'd say the chances of him getting anything back is about 0%. It is definitely an expensive learning mistake though...

Should he file a Police report on this? He has not done so yet. Is there a chance the stranger could get nabbed when he goes to cash in at an exchange?

It depends on which country. However, it is most likely that the Police will not able to do anything about it. I think I would personally give it a try though.

Considering how much money it is, I would also try and find out who this "stranger" is. It should be possible if they met in person as you described. Perhaps someone at the local bar knows the guy.

mr.mister

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Quote from: V!cious on October 22, 2017, 02:20:01 PM

How did that person get in touch with your chap? a person who has 2.6 BTC in his wallet should have been more careful the stranger probably ran away with the BTC by now the chances of getting his Bitcoin is close to zero.

My friend apparently got in touch with the stranger at a bar that is known to have a lot of bitcoiners around.

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Quote from: mr.mister on October 22, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Quote from: Mallingo98 on October 22, 2017, 02:14:25 PM

I'd say the chances of him getting anything back is about 0%. It is definitely an expensive learning mistake though...

Should he file a Police report on this? He has not done so yet. Is there a chance the stranger could get nabbed when he goes to cash in at an exchange?

The bitcoin is gone, he can't get it back. Treat it as an expensive experience and move on. He shouldn't tell anyone about his seed. I don't think police can do anything about it even with the chat log(if there's any), it will just waste your friend's time and more money.

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How did that person get in touch with your chap? a person who has 2.6 BTC in his wallet should have been more careful the stranger probably ran away with the BTC by now the chances of getting his Bitcoin is close to zero.

mr.mister

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Quote from: Mallingo98 on October 22, 2017, 02:14:25 PM

I'd say the chances of him getting anything back is about 0%. It is definitely an expensive learning mistake though...

Should he file a Police report on this? He has not done so yet. Is there a chance the stranger could get nabbed when he goes to cash in at an exchange?

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