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Yep. It's useless to cutloss now since the market already bounce back from the massive dip. Setting up stoploss is the key to prevent this kind losses. It will recover slowly again over a months if this side ways continue without further more dip. Holders will win on this market.

Doesn't really agree with Holders winning this market. Expert traders who knows the 2018 bitcoin crash that use stop losses still won as they analyze the market well and where to buy back on the dip. Imagine two scenarios: having your position on 54K and you cut at 50K then bought back at 31K, and Holding your bags from 49K, who's the real winner? Holding is definitely fine especially if your day to day profit making isn't trading alone. BUT, Holding should still has its limits. Why? Yes, Bitcoin price and even any cryptos that were affected by the crash is still going up regardless of the dip, but the time you wasted holding such coin instead of buying it back more in the dip still is a bigger loss than cutting it loss every time you set a position.

A wise trader knows when to cutloss. But a wise investor or holder knows that crashes are common. Nonetheless, where are we when the March 2020 crash came? Have we considered holding any coins from that crash? I guess many of us not. We're just mere traders who needs to learn more to use stoplosses at any trend of the market.
The problem is the next, we know that the best trader around the world should outmatch the best holder of the world regardless of any asset and time frame, but the issue is how difficult it is the become reasonably good on any of those two disciplines.

And becoming a good holder is easy and can be done by almost anyone as long as they are willing to do so, but becoming a good trader is incredibly difficult and very few achieve any meaningful results which means that many times it is better to take the safest path and become a holder.
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many people feel that way. I also want to sell the coins that I have, it's just that, the price of bitcoin went down, and it affected that, so I still hold the coins that I have until now. however, many people get stuck at this price and expect the price to rebound and be above the $ 50k price tag. Personally, I'm waiting for another $ 60k price tag.
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You need to take risks to invest in the crypto market it is not possible to invest without risk. Even if the market crashes you have to keep investing the right time to buy when the price of currencies falls a trader is facing stiff competition because there are already hundreds of competitors in the market already starting the same business. Although the risk factor is low because he walks a path that has already been tested by competitors so the chances of failure are relatively low so you have to wait until the price goes up the reason for going down is that it will go up again.
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Yeahhh thats true.  Same thing happened 2017-18 season. But it bounce back in next year. So i believe that a tight hold for a year it will give a great profit.
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When bitcoin drops to $30000, this is a disaster for most traders who buy bitcoin and altcoins at a price high. We didn't expect bitcoin to fall this low, so causing altcoins prices to be dumped very deeply. For traders who have already lost over 25% in trading, then it is best not to cut losses because it will make lose some capital. So believe me, the bitcoin price will back up again and altcoins price will rise again.
If you are an actual trader then you got features to save yourself from such crashes like stop loss so you can leave the market with small loss instead of losing half of your capital. And if you missed to exit in that way then you have two choices, whether you can hold until the price increases or accept your loss and start focusing on making the profits with current market movements.
Most probably, traders will take the cut loss option rather than to get stuck and waste their time waiting for the recovery. Because in their minds that if they don't move, if they don't sacrifice those few losses, the more chances that they got paralyze, and most likely they will not call themselves as a trader.
But I was to assume that OP isn't a pro-trader, he just knows about trading but in a situation like this, he prepared to become a holder, not being a trader anymore. Well, there is no wrong with that.
I dont think that would be their option because they can always choose to hold than on cut loss unless if they had put up stop loss then that would surely be considered as lost totally
but if they do have the chance to break even then they would really be choosing up to hold and use up their back up funds to continue their position or dealing with volatility.
There are really instances or situations where you dont have any choice but to do it even though its not meant to be hold but due to situation then you wouldnt have any choice.
Is there something wrong with this? I dont think it can really be avoided aside if you had been liquidated.
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When the BTC price dropped for the first time to that rate, yeah, I personally become a holder. Not using the CL feature at that time so it was so late for us if willing to use CL. ANd the best decision is to hold the coin.
And Panic? of course it is normal. But never make that for panic sell because you will really lose everything if you sell. And your portfolio is actually still the same there if we don't sell our coins. Risky? Of course, it is very risky because we don't know whether the market will be better soon or not. But exactly, really hope that the market will be back at least in this year.
And maybe it needs some funds again to check the market and buy some coins for scalping or daily trading.
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When bitcoin drops to $30000, this is a disaster for most traders who buy bitcoin and altcoins at a price high. We didn't expect bitcoin to fall this low, so causing altcoins prices to be dumped very deeply. For traders who have already lost over 25% in trading, then it is best not to cut losses because it will make lose some capital. So believe me, the bitcoin price will back up again and altcoins price will rise again.
If you are an actual trader then you got features to save yourself from such crashes like stop loss so you can leave the market with small loss instead of losing half of your capital. And if you missed to exit in that way then you have two choices, whether you can hold until the price increases or accept your loss and start focusing on making the profits with current market movements.
Most probably, traders will take the cut loss option rather than to get stuck and waste their time waiting for the recovery. Because in their minds that if they don't move, if they don't sacrifice those few losses, the more chances that they got paralyze, and most likely they will not call themselves as a trader.
But I was to assume that OP isn't a pro-trader, he just knows about trading but in a situation like this, he prepared to become a holder, not being a trader anymore. Well, there is no wrong with that.
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When bitcoin drops to $30000, this is a disaster for most traders who buy bitcoin and altcoins at a price high. We didn't expect bitcoin to fall this low, so causing altcoins prices to be dumped very deeply. For traders who have already lost over 25% in trading, then it is best not to cut losses because it will make lose some capital. So believe me, the bitcoin price will back up again and altcoins price will rise again.
If you are an actual trader then you got features to save yourself from such crashes like stop loss so you can leave the market with small loss instead of losing half of your capital. And if you missed to exit in that way then you have two choices, whether you can hold until the price increases or accept your loss and start focusing on making the profits with current market movements.
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many people are trapped in that situation, they think when buying is the lowest price, but it turns out that the market says something else, and the price continues to decline, until the value of our assets may decrease by 25%. at this time many people love to take it off but for me we have to be firm to take action, discipline is required by a trader, if it has broken its work area, it is mandatory to cut losses
I think that is one example of a decision that can be said to be reckless and very unfortunate of course,
that is why we must be able to read market movements even though it is difficult but if we learn we will definitely be able to,
at least that experience makes us learn and in the future can make the right decisions
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In the previous bull run many people has taken entry. Some has booked their profit. Those who don't sell should hold their coin. Nothing in our hand in this market crash point. In this crash market you can accumulate more coin to minimize the loss and be in a profit as soon as possible. Holding power is great assets in crypto market.
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many people are trapped in that situation, they think when buying is the lowest price, but it turns out that the market says something else, and the price continues to decline, until the value of our assets may decrease by 25%. at this time many people love to take it off but for me we have to be firm to take action, discipline is required by a trader, if it has broken its work area, it is mandatory to cut losses
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Yeah, this post made me remember back in the days when I was still into trading the market every day, there were times when I have to hold a coin for atleast a month to see if I could even be able to at least sell them at my buying price, but most times, I still end up with a loss, but it's always good to hold bitcoin and other major coins if at all after buying, the price drops, there's a kind of guarantee that the price will definitely come up again if only one can be patient.
That is the biggest challenge when we do the buying during the bull season and then the market just dumps while we still have an active trade. To hate to say but no chance it filled which leads us to do holding rather than to do stop-loss. This is the risk in trading as we never know what will happen next and sometimes we just put trading as a gamble.
Anyway, I think OP had chosen the best option. In fact, we can continue trading using another coin while holding that particular coin while waiting for its price to recover.
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Yeah, this post made me remember back in the days when I was still into trading the market every day, there were times when I have to hold a coin for atleast a month to see if I could even be able to at least sell them at my buying price, but most times, I still end up with a loss, but it's always good to hold bitcoin and other major coins if at all after buying, the price drops, there's a kind of guarantee that the price will definitely come up again if only one can be patient.
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In my honest opinion, holding for long has become a better strategy than trading these days.

It has always been the best strategy, just that the type of investors coming into the space are impatient ones that want gains instantly because either they don't believe in the industry but just here to cash out or they have heard storys of the industry making millions with little or no effort therefore they want to recieve such benefits without going through the process like holding and believing in a project true value above price value at first.

We now have strategy that can be used to achieved been a long term holder, so there's no excuse of not achieving that. We have the staking mechanism that's now common due to the Defi hype that allowed most project switching to enable users been able to stake their coins to recieve rewards.
We do actually have some options to take but there are people who are really that close minded without realizing on what are the ways which they can really save up theirselves or do things
when they do get caught on the dump.Its just a matter of time for the market to recover out and if you do make yourself panic out and sell on loss then theres no way you can really
take those losses back rather than buying on the dip to compensate or patch up on what you had lost. 
You should take some steps that would really be helpful once you get caught on the dump and dont easily panic on that particular time.
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In my honest opinion, holding for long has become a better strategy than trading these days.

It has always been the best strategy, just that the type of investors coming into the space are impatient ones that want gains instantly because either they don't believe in the industry but just here to cash out or they have heard storys of the industry making millions with little or no effort therefore they want to recieve such benefits without going through the process like holding and believing in a project true value above price value at first.

We now have strategy that can be used to achieved been a long term holder, so there's no excuse of not achieving that. We have the staking mechanism that's now common due to the Defi hype that allowed most project switching to enable users been able to stake their coins to recieve rewards.
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When bitcoin drops to $30000, this is a disaster for most traders who buy bitcoin and altcoins at a price high. We didn't expect bitcoin to fall this low, so causing altcoins prices to be dumped very deeply. For traders who have already lost over 25% in trading, then it is best not to cut losses because it will make lose some capital. So believe me, the bitcoin price will back up again and altcoins price will rise again.
From my 4 years experience in crypto world I always seen bitcoin always do something what we don't expect even we are not ready to face this.

When it pump nobody think it could be so high. Again when dump nobody ready to see it could be so low in short period. Again people start to forget btc can do something unexpected for a while, then btc do that.

This will happen always in crypto market. But we have to trade carefully and don't be panic basically when people trade with btc/usd pair. Because today or tomorrow btc will make a new high. But in some alts (shit coins) is very risky.
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I believe the price of bitcoin will go up again and that's for sure.
but when we buy bitcoin or other altcoins the price is too high and there is a price drop of about 25% or more it is very painful and we are forced to hold it. But if we can read the market we can use the risk ratio strategy, so we can stop losses with Cut loss and buy it again at the lowest price, it will really help recover losses quickly.
but if we have the funds it will help.
Believe me, there will be times when Bitcoin or altcoin will go up again, it's just how we can manage it and don't panic too much about the situation.
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good mindset mate.. Because making exit while have loses isn't a good idea actually in my opinion also, wherein if you do that there's no way you can regain all of your profits that disappear during the crash and for sure you will regret that if you saw market suddenly bounce back.
Yup, I don’t really see the need for selling an asset when you’re in total loss it is not going to be making any sense at all, because the aim is to make profit , so if it’s not profit , it’s best to just leave it there, even if it’s going to take a long time. But, I have realized that the reason why people would do this is because they are investing cash that they are in need of for other purposes.

There are people who don’t have money for investment, and they would invest the money they are going to be needing in a short time, and if the price of Bitcoin or the cryptocurrency they have invested in happens to plummet before they withdraw it, they are still going to withdraw because they need that money for other things and that’s a loss for them.
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The market crash was predicted when the bad news hit, in part because Bitcoin has been hot for months.
Many people quickly exited the market before Bitcoin crashed. Some people got rich because they successfully caught the bottom. With a little observance, we can avoid unnecessary crashes from the market. Trading with a plan and placing a stop loss is the way to survive in the harsh crypto market.
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