[FS] $110 American Express Gift Card/Credit Card -- 10 BTC

nelisky

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Quote from: tsvekric on August 10, 2011, 10:42:57 AM

uhhh what

10BTC for $110 means you are selling your bitcoins for $11 each.
15BTC for $110 means you are selling your bitcoins for $7.33 each.

selling BTC for $11 each is better than market value. So "CHEAP" makes sense here.

Yep, I managed to make an even bigger ass of myself

It was really late, in my defense...

Sorry about that.

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Quote from: nelisky on August 09, 2011, 10:07:51 PM

Quote from: dalamchops on August 09, 2011, 09:58:00 PM

Quote from: nelisky on August 09, 2011, 09:49:45 PM

Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 09:45:13 PM

Need to sell this today, guys!

You are unknown, untrusted, selling something you can double spend (I know you shred the card via webcam, but you can write numbers in a piece of paper, no?) and to add insult to injury you say [CHEAP] but ask $11/btc, above market level (and that was just the bottom limit on your original post).

If you are serious about selling this today you may want to rethink your strategy, just saying...

you're an idiot, he's offering $11 USD FOR YOUR 1 BTC. That's better than market value.

Am I? I guess you're right, I must be. Good thing you warned me on time in such a polite way

So let me rephrase it, $9.1/btc was the bottom, $13.6 the buy now, and the last price I saw before I looked at this was ~$9.3. So, yeah, I failed the 1/11 calculation by a bit, which I guess invalidates all of my reasoning and makes me an idiot.

Again, thanks Wink

uhhh what

10BTC for $110 means you are selling your bitcoins for $11 each.
15BTC for $110 means you are selling your bitcoins for $7.33 each.

selling BTC for $11 each is better than market value. So "CHEAP" makes sense here.

nelisky

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Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 11:31:45 PM

You are not being a prick sir, I am. I need 9.6 BTC within 18 hours, otherwise something bad will happen to me. I'm trying to get 9.6 BTC as quick as I can, and if you could go first I would be ever-so-greatful. The most greatful person ever. I usually have no problem going first, and you are WAY more trustable then me. If you can not pay me within 18 hours, I am withdrawling myself from this entire sale to anyone, because the BTC will be of no value to me after that time period. If you want to know why, I can tell you via PM, but otherwise I'd not share it publically.

Well, no, sorry. You can still get the BTC from me in time, though. Buy $110 worth of amazon UK gift code (around £66), email the code to me along with your btc address, I'll redeem and immediately send you 9.6 coins.

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Quote from: senbonzakura on August 09, 2011, 11:50:49 PM

I offer 2 BTC Interest - FREE loan if you need one.

thanks

Are you offering to give me a loan? Wow man, that's awesome. I'll pay you back plus interest if you really wanna trust me and give me a loan. <3

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I offer 2 BTC Interest - FREE loan if you need one.

thanks

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You are not being a prick sir, I am. I need 9.6 BTC within 18 hours, otherwise something bad will happen to me. I'm trying to get 9.6 BTC as quick as I can, and if you could go first I would be ever-so-greatful. The most greatful person ever. I usually have no problem going first, and you are WAY more trustable then me. If you can not pay me within 18 hours, I am withdrawling myself from this entire sale to anyone, because the BTC will be of no value to me after that time period. If you want to know why, I can tell you via PM, but otherwise I'd not share it publically.

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As I said I must be asleep already... what you said makes no sense to me whatsoever.

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But, keep in mind, if you go first I can still scam you

Sure you can scam me if I go first... that's why I said you go first!

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The only way I would do it, is if I mailed it and gave you package Tracking, and once you see that it is mailed you would pay. Whereas, if you don't pay I could call them up and tell them to ship it back. Whether or not I go first doesn't determine whether or not I will scam you.

What are you talking about? I don't mean you giving me package tracking, I'm talking about me having the actual card in my hands or having registered my name with AMEX. Also, I'd redeem the gift code before sending you coins.

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You have to put your trust in me(and I would give you my PGP). if you are skeptical don't bother, im not pressuring you into anything.

Your PGP means nothing, as I'm sure you know, unless I already know and trust your pub key. But let me stress this point one last time:

- If you do decide to sell to me you will have to provide the goods before receiving the btc. Sorry, that's just the way it is, I'm known and trusted, you are not, scammers are always on the lookout for fools. I'm not saying you are a scammer, I'm saying I try not to be a fool.
- If you don't trust me that is fine too, lets find someone we both trust and try to talk that person into holding my btc while you sell me the card / gift code.

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I give you the card, and pay you back $20 via PayPal

Please don't. I don't trust paypal and want nothing to do with them. If you want to give me $20 that's great, discount that from the sale price and we have a deal.

But I'll reread this tomorrow, maybe I'm just being a prick.

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Quote from: nelisky on August 09, 2011, 11:08:00 PM

I am interested, but the price you ask is very close to the market price which has done some serious swings today, on top of which I'll certainly pay international fees for all transactions done with stores outside of the US, so I'm not sure it is a good deal for me.

Also it is very, very late here and I can't really think straight so I check this thread when I get up and if you haven't sold the card yet I'll make a decision re: rate, either buy it or make you an offer at the very least.

Alternatively I might ask you to buy something for me using that card, specifically an amazon uk gift card, instead of you sending the card to me. Would be be available to do that? You would most certainly have to pay first (be it send the card details or buy the gift) or we'd have to arrange for someone we both trust to serve as escrow for the btc. I will not send first under any condition.

Well, I could buy it for you f you wanted. But, keep in mind, if you go first I can still scam you... I shouldn't be saying that I can scam you, but I can. The only way I would do it, is if I mailed it and gave you package Tracking, and once you see that it is mailed you would pay. Whereas, if you don't pay I could call them up and tell them to ship it back. Whether or not I go first doesn't determine whether or not I will scam you. You have to put your trust in me(and I would give you my PGP). if you are skeptical don't bother, im not pressuring you into anything. I can offer you this (since you dont like the price), I give you the card, and pay you back $20 via PayPal after you buy it. Like I said, I am very desperate for Bitcoin, you would be doing me a solid if you purchased

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I am interested, but the price you ask is very close to the market price which has done some serious swings today, on top of which I'll certainly pay international fees for all transactions done with stores outside of the US, so I'm not sure it is a good deal for me.

Also it is very, very late here and I can't really think straight so I check this thread when I get up and if you haven't sold the card yet I'll make a decision re: rate, either buy it or make you an offer at the very least.

Alternatively I might ask you to buy something for me using that card, specifically an amazon uk gift card, instead of you sending the card to me. Would be be available to do that? You would most certainly have to pay first (be it send the card details or buy the gift) or we'd have to arrange for someone we both trust to serve as escrow for the btc. I will not send first under any condition.

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Quote from: trentzb on August 09, 2011, 11:00:12 PM

Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 10:03:33 PM

Also, it is impossible to double spend for two reasons:
1) To buy things in real life, I would have to physically own the card, whereas if I mail it to you it's impossible.
2) You have to add your own name to the card, I cannot buy things if I don't know your name and address. (simply tell me to ship it to a slightly different name)

There is a way to double spend prepay cards, but FWIW it appears this seller isn't interested in doing so.

I am sure you can understand the skepticism over a new member immediately trying to sell something. However I also can understand the frustration of new members wanting to get their hands on some BTC as quick as possible. There should be some easier methods popping up over the next month or so.

I understand your skepticism as I would be very skeptical as well. However, my only reason here is to get some dang BTC! Cheesy

I'm desperate for some, but no TOO desperate... haha. Thanks for understanding my frustration.

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Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 10:03:33 PM

Also, it is impossible to double spend for two reasons:
1) To buy things in real life, I would have to physically own the card, whereas if I mail it to you it's impossible.
2) You have to add your own name to the card, I cannot buy things if I don't know your name and address. (simply tell me to ship it to a slightly different name)

There is a way to double spend prepay cards, but FWIW it appears this seller isn't interested in doing so.

I am sure you can understand the skepticism over a new member immediately trying to sell something. However I also can understand the frustration of new members wanting to get their hands on some BTC as quick as possible. There should be some easier methods popping up over the next month or so.

Sh1337

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Quote from: nelisky on August 09, 2011, 10:54:13 PM

Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 10:44:16 PM

Yes, many websites require an address on file, whereas a fake one can (but is not required) be linked to the account with an easy fake name generation courtesy of fakenamegenerator.com

I have the feeling that the only reason for your posting on this thread is to debunk the existence of this card. Are you actually interested in buying?

It is very simple to verify if a certain forum user is a troll or not, just do a quick follow up of the member posts. I can assure you I rarely post anything unless I have something constructive to add, except when feeding the trolls which I do as a sick sort of relax exercise.

Regardless, what have I said here that debunks the existence of the card? I've lost you there. I am really interested though I have serious doubts I can legally use it without being a US citizen (I know I can fake being one, but I'd rather not). If you don't want me to follow up with my questions / concerns just say so, or if you really feel I've been trolling with stupid remarks, press 'Report to moderator' and make this a better forum for all.

Here is a quote I found:

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American Express debit cards can be used at stores and restaurants throughout the US that accept regular American Express cards.
VISA debit cards, offered by many financial institutions, are good wherever VISA debit cards are accepted. Some (but not all) can be used internationally.

Upon further investigation, I called up AMEX (I have been on hold for the past 12 minutes) and asked them if this certain card can be used outside of the US and it has been confirmed that yes it can. Sorry for coming to the stupid assumption that you were a troll, I now see that you're on this forum for much different reasons. I am here to do legitimate business. So, I must ask the question on my mind: are you, or are you still interested, or would you like to talk via PM or AIM/MSN?

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Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 10:44:16 PM

Yes, many websites require an address on file, whereas a fake one can (but is not required) be linked to the account with an easy fake name generation courtesy of fakenamegenerator.com

I have the feeling that the only reason for your posting on this thread is to debunk the existence of this card. Are you actually interested in buying?

It is very simple to verify if a certain forum user is a troll or not, just do a quick follow up of the member posts. I can assure you I rarely post anything unless I have something constructive to add, except when feeding the trolls which I do as a sick sort of relax exercise.

Regardless, what have I said here that debunks the existence of the card? I've lost you there. I am really interested though I have serious doubts I can legally use it without being a US citizen (I know I can fake being one, but I'd rather not). If you don't want me to follow up with my questions / concerns just say so, or if you really feel I've been trolling with stupid remarks, press 'Report to moderator' and make this a better forum for all.

Sh1337

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Yes, many websites require an address on file, whereas a fake one can (but is not required) be linked to the account with an easy fake name generation courtesy of fakenamegenerator.com

I have the feeling that the only reason for your posting on this thread is to debunk the existence of this card. Are you actually interested in buying?

nelisky

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Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 10:37:13 PM

Quote from: nelisky on August 09, 2011, 10:16:37 PM

Ok, I get it now, buying online with AMEX cards one must state not only the numbers but also the name and address. Can you verify if the card you have is in fact usable without a US address?

Can I prove that? Well, I can tell you these two things:

The last time I bought an AMEX gift card I used a fake name (an address was not required)

You can call AMEX gift card hotline and ask

So, just a name then... sites like amazon require the billing address to match that of the card, don't they?

AMEX gift card hotline, got an international number for that?

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Quote from: nelisky on August 09, 2011, 10:16:37 PM

Ok, I get it now, buying online with AMEX cards one must state not only the numbers but also the name and address. Can you verify if the card you have is in fact usable without a US address?

Can I prove that? Well, I can tell you these two things:

The last time I bought an AMEX gift card I used a fake name (an address was not required)

You can call AMEX gift card hotline and ask

nelisky

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Ok, I get it now, buying online with AMEX cards one must state not only the numbers but also the name and address. Can you verify if the card you have is in fact usable without a US address?

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Quote from: nelisky on August 09, 2011, 10:11:33 PM

Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 10:03:33 PM

Also, it is impossible to double spend for two reasons:
1) To buy things in real life, I would have to physically own the card, whereas if I mail it to you it's impossible.
2) You have to add your own name to the card, I cannot buy things if I don't know your name and address. (simply tell me to ship it to a slightly different name)

Ok, trying to make up for being an idiot before (in that sarcastic tone of voice we all love) why do you say

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If you desire I CAN MAIL THIS to the address of your choice

If you don't mail it, how can one use it then? I assumed this was a card one can use for online shopping, thus the number and the CVV would be all that is required. But you are right assuming one MUST register the card, probably making it unusable to those like myself that don't have a US address...

Sir, I would give you all the numbers on the card. You would then call AMEX and give them your name.

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Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 10:03:33 PM

Also, it is impossible to double spend for two reasons:
1) To buy things in real life, I would have to physically own the card, whereas if I mail it to you it's impossible.
2) You have to add your own name to the card, I cannot buy things if I don't know your name and address. (simply tell me to ship it to a slightly different name)

Ok, trying to make up for being an idiot before (in that sarcastic tone of voice we all love) why do you say

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If you desire I CAN MAIL THIS to the address of your choice

If you don't mail it, how can one use it then? I assumed this was a card one can use for online shopping, thus the number and the CVV would be all that is required. But you are right assuming one MUST register the card, probably making it unusable to those like myself that don't have a US address...

nelisky

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Quote from: dalamchops on August 09, 2011, 09:58:00 PM

Quote from: nelisky on August 09, 2011, 09:49:45 PM

Quote from: Sh1337 on August 09, 2011, 09:45:13 PM

Need to sell this today, guys!

You are unknown, untrusted, selling something you can double spend (I know you shred the card via webcam, but you can write numbers in a piece of paper, no?) and to add insult to injury you say [CHEAP] but ask $11/btc, above market level (and that was just the bottom limit on your original post).

If you are serious about selling this today you may want to rethink your strategy, just saying...

you're an idiot, he's offering $11 USD FOR YOUR 1 BTC. That's better than market value.

Am I? I guess you're right, I must be. Good thing you warned me on time in such a polite way

So let me rephrase it, $9.1/btc was the bottom, $13.6 the buy now, and the last price I saw before I looked at this was ~$9.3. So, yeah, I failed the 1/11 calculation by a bit, which I guess invalidates all of my reasoning and makes me an idiot.

Again, thanks Wink

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