FTX Claim deadline Sept 29 2023 - page 2.

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Quote from: Wapfika on September 12, 2023, 05:39:38 AM

You will be lucky if you will get a cent for a dollar on this refund process since FTX reserves is on FTT and SOL which will surely deplete most of the liquidity once they liquidate asset.

If you have balance below 1K in there then it's really not worth it if you are KYC conscious person since you only get few dollars in there for indefinite timeline.

I'm also not sure about this, that FTX will refund its customers 100%, this will be a long story, not to mention the long wait to verify, so I will pass on FTX's claim. In fact, it's not that much of an asset there, I'll let it go.
I think a balance of $1000 is big, maybe some people who have a balance on FTX that big will do it, but yeah it will go through a long process and this will probably take years.
With FTX going to liquidate several other assets, I don't think it will be easy for customers to get their hands on them.

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Quote from: adaseb on September 11, 2023, 06:38:27 PM

Does anyone know what this means? I would KYC if I knew 100% I would get back at least 50% of my funds. If in 5 years, all I get is 10% then they can just keep it and not going to bother with this.

This means that you can reach your account and know your balance to verify this without sending any personal data, you can via email, password and 2FA to reach your account and know the amount required after that if the amount deserves to try to recover it, you will complete the verification of the identity, but if there is no balance or Zero balance you can leave.
It is a way to reduce the number of unwanted requests and I think that many who have less than $ 100 will ignore the completion of all these procedures.

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on September 12, 2023, 03:40:19 AM

of which they will probably record 20% in their books as "operating costs". So in reality they will probably recover $1.6 billion of $9 billion, or about 17%. So I wouldn't count on more than that, and 50% seems unrealistic to me.

US and Japan are lucky the process of claiming will be faster and about 20% of the assets or more. The problem with international users.

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Quote from: adaseb on September 11, 2023, 06:38:27 PM

I would KYC if I knew 100% I would get back at least 50% of my funds. If in 5 years, all I get is 10% then they can just keep it and not going to bother with this.

You will be lucky if you will get a cent for a dollar on this refund process since FTX reserves is on FTT and SOL which will surely deplete most of the liquidity once they liquidate asset.

If you have balance below 1K in there then it's really not worth it if you are KYC conscious person since you only get few dollars in there for indefinite timeline.

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Quote from: adaseb on September 11, 2023, 06:38:27 PM

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Now I am confused because on Step 3, it says "KYC is recommended but not required". Says you can skip KYC and move to Step 4 to verify balance and Step 5 to file your claim.

However later it states that you must begin your KYC process and file your claim by Sept 29. Any claim of a customer with an unverified KYC status will be deemed unverified and the Debtors reserve to object such claims on missing or incomplete KYC info.

Does anyone know what this means? I would KYC if I knew 100% I would get back at least 50% of my funds. If in 5 years, all I get is 10% then they can just keep it and not going to bother with this.

As far as I know, KYC is necessary for creditors and regulators to be able to verify users and match them with data held at FTX. Yes, it is the user's right not to include KYC, so you can skip this, but the problem is because KYC is needed to verify the user, meaning if you don't fill in this, the creditor can reject your request and not return your money.

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Quote from: adaseb on September 11, 2023, 06:38:27 PM

Now I am confused because on Step 3, it says "KYC is recommended but not required". Says you can skip KYC and move to Step 4 to verify balance and Step 5 to file your claim.

However later it states that you must begin your KYC process and file your claim by Sept 29. Any claim of a customer with an unverified KYC status will be deemed unverified and the Debtors reserve to object such claims on missing or incomplete KYC info.

As I understand this, kyc is not required to proceed further to "verify balance" and prepare "file your calim", but it is necessary for it to be considered by FTX.
so without KYC you can check how much of your funds FTX owes you, but without KYC you can't count on receiving them. In my opinion, this mechanism was created for those who have many funds on different exchanges and constantly transfer them and do not remember whether they left $50 or $5,000 on FTX.

But first. Make sure its not phising.

Quote from: adaseb on September 11, 2023, 06:38:27 PM

Does anyone know what this means? I would KYC if I knew 100% I would get back at least 50% of my funds. If in 5 years, all I get is 10% then they can just keep it and not going to bother with this.

From what I remember, FTX had about $9 billion in client funds. currently it is said that they will dump about $3 billion woth of coins, of which $1 billion is worthless FTT and SOL, so it can be said that they will recover like $2 billion
of which they will probably record 20% in their books as "operating costs". So in reality they will probably recover $1.6 billion of $9 billion, or about 17%. So I wouldn't count on more than that, and 50% seems unrealistic to me.

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Quote from: https://support.ftx.com/hc/en-us/articles/16738866768788-Filing-a-Customer-Claim

NOTE: Although KYC information submission is not required in order to view your account balance or file a proof of claim, the Debtors reserve the right to object to claims filed that are not verified with KYC information. For more information about the list of requirements, please visit this page: Verification

From what I understand, it just means not providing KYC information would mean your claim has a much less weight/support compared to claims backed with KYC information because debtors have the right to object it.

Imo, it's more likely that they'll exercise their right to object non-kyc'd claims especially if there is no enough supply to cover every claims.

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In any case, you will be required to verify your identity before proceeding with the withdrawal process. Therefore, since you will submit it sooner or later, it is best to do it now.

We will hear a lot of noise about this matter in the coming days, but we cannot confirm the news because it is the season of rumors.

So far this news is closest to the truth.

---> Source

Quote from: adaseb on September 11, 2023, 11:17:00 PM

Also when you submit your claim it forwards it to the Kroll website so it’s definitely legitimate. Maybe someone else can confirm.

You can check the link and steps in this document ---> https://restructuring.ra.kroll.com/FTX/Home-DownloadPDF?id1=MTU0MTE4MQ==&id2=-1

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on September 11, 2023, 08:36:40 PM

I did not find any link to https://claims.ftx.com/ from https://restructuring.ra.kroll.com/FTX/

I search it on FTX Twitter and did not find any tweet about claiming with that link. Could you share where you got the link, please.

My search goes with FTX Users Potentially Targeted in Possible Phishing Attack as Bankruptcy Claims Deadline Nears that has a link to direct me to FTX Debtors Launch Online Claims Portal for Customers

I agree with you that if the value is small, skip it is better than KYC and lose documents to FTX.

The website is listed on the Ftx twitter account which is controlled by Kroll. And Ftx domain right now is also in control of Kroll. I don’t think it’s a phishing website.

Also when you submit your claim it forwards it to the Kroll website so it’s definitely legitimate. Maybe someone else can confirm.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on September 11, 2023, 08:36:40 PM

I did not find any link to https://claims.ftx.com/ from https://restructuring.ra.kroll.com/FTX/

Based on the search cache in my browser, the claims portal page used to be as follows: https://claims.ftx.com/kroll-portal
Then a few days ago I read this thread that their restructuring agency had a data breach. I think they have canceled cooperation in this case considering the link above is no longer available.

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Quote from: adaseb on September 11, 2023, 06:38:27 PM

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Does anyone know what this means? I would KYC if I knew 100% I would get back at least 50% of my funds. If in 5 years, all I get is 10% then they can just keep it and not going to bother with this.

I'm afraid no one can answer the question of how much you'll get back. Not even those who are working on the correct resolution of FTX funds.
In principle, it looks like this: There is a certain amount of coins and FIAT, depending on how many people stake their claim to it this amount is divided among everyone. So if you had only a small amount of coins/FIAT on FTX you will most likely be fobbed off with only a marginal amount.

I have never been registered on FTX myself ... was it even possible to use the exchange without KYC?

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I did not find any link to https://claims.ftx.com/ from https://restructuring.ra.kroll.com/FTX/

I search it on FTX Twitter and did not find any tweet about claiming with that link. Could you share where you got the link, please.

My search goes with FTX Users Potentially Targeted in Possible Phishing Attack as Bankruptcy Claims Deadline Nears that has a link to direct me to FTX Debtors Launch Online Claims Portal for Customers

I agree with you that if the value is small, skip it is better than KYC and lose documents to FTX.

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For those that are not aware, the deadline to claim your debt from FTX is end of September.

https://claims.ftx.com/

From there you login as usual, 2FA as usual and confirm your email.

Now I am confused because on Step 3, it says "KYC is recommended but not required". Says you can skip KYC and move to Step 4 to verify balance and Step 5 to file your claim.

However later it states that you must begin your KYC process and file your claim by Sept 29. Any claim of a customer with an unverified KYC status will be deemed unverified and the Debtors reserve to object such claims on missing or incomplete KYC info.

Does anyone know what this means? I would KYC if I knew 100% I would get back at least 50% of my funds. If in 5 years, all I get is 10% then they can just keep it and not going to bother with this.

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