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Topic: Fuck sakes, my 78 yr old dad fell for the biggest scam evar -NEW Update TODAY! - page 2. (Read 2498 times)

newbie
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New day. same shit. Hackers are back, what is worse, he is in denial about the hackers. I will NOT bring this shit up today when we go out as he is MAD.

OMFG he verbally abused Mum over shit like this! Thankfully he never hit her. OMFG he was FIT TO BE TIED! I will wait a few days and ask Mum when

to ask him the tiniest question unless expressly allowed. He has anger problem as well.
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You are right about a tight budget for me. I AM on a tight budget and FORTUNATELY can fix my own damn

computer w/o help, most often of an expensive technician. I have actually NEVER called a technician for

computer difficulties for YEARS. And so, I have learned how to fix computers MYSELF and on a small budget.

Small wonder I was so irate. I couldn't believe he was not trusting my mum's or my opinion on the matter.

Stubborn old coot.

So mad, I don't know if he actually deserves to loose the 770 charged on the MC or not. I really am annoyed

to the point of no longer giving a damn.

I think because he was being crypitc about how he and whether he ACTUALLY charged the MC was a way of his

being embarrassed over what had happened. He would not admit to this and Mum had to get it all out to me. I just felt

worse by dad's attempts at hiding this part. That is what made it so much worse.

You seem to have some anger issues that you may want to look into. To get this worked up over a issue that they do not seem to bothered about seems like something else in play. Look into it,you will only learn something about yourself and grow as a person.
Dwelling on the situation just lengthens the problem and your Father will not feel comfortable coming to you about anything in the future.
Trust me,my mother is stubborn as well,any sign of me pushing her one direction and she gets her back up with some passive aggressiveness.
newbie
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You are right about a tight budget for me. I AM on a tight budget and FORTUNATELY can fix my own damn

computer w/o help, most often of an expensive technician. I have actually NEVER called a technician for

computer difficulties for YEARS. And so, I have learned how to fix computers MYSELF and on a small budget.

Small wonder I was so irate. I couldn't believe he was not trusting my mum's or my opinion on the matter.

Stubborn old coot.

So mad, I don't know if he actually deserves to loose the 770 charged on the MC or not. I really am annoyed

to the point of no longer giving a damn.

I think because he was being crypitc about how he and whether he ACTUALLY charged the MC was a way of his

being embarrassed over what had happened. He would not admit to this and Mum had to get it all out to me. I just felt

worse by dad's attempts at hiding this part. That is what made it so much worse.
legendary
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homer, you are the one who doesn't realize that people can be on a budget-tight as hell.

you are not helping matters any by indicating that it is cheap.

Because, for them it isn't. The idea for rolluptherimtowin was novel, though.

I could not believe Dad fell for the scam. Mum fortunately saw through it and got him to go

to Best Buy to get convinced.  Dad relented and found out the truth. I couldn't have felt more

                                                              VINDICATED!


   I stand by my assertation that $600 is a cheap education; it wasn't my intention to harm or help your situation with that statement but simply to put it in context.  My main point to you was that you needed to calm down.  People wont listen to a raving maniac no matter how true their words.  I'm glad things worked out for the best; it seems like your mom is the voice of reason and the calming influence in your family but isn't that generally the case?

legendary
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Tell your parents not to keep anything they can't handle losing on their PC.
And maybe teach them how to put pictures on a USB drive etc.
Chances are that is the only valuable on the PC aside from Credentials.

THEN.. tell them be careful but if anything happens ?
Do nothing !
YOU will come over to their house and re-install Windows etc on their machines fresh.

Mine are pretty damn savvy.. i am lucky.
And they also know the go to method is to re-install Windows.. and they do all on their own.

EDIT:
Homer you said...
"$600 CAD is a pretty cheap education"

BULLSHIT !

What if his senior parents are on a tight budget ?
$600 could be a massive beating.. a lot of people just wouldn't have it !
OR be able to get it in 7 days..

Not everyone is made of money rich kid.

 Yeah, it's possible but not probable that a 78 year old Canadian who bought a computer, pays for internet and can take his wife and kid out for a coffee is on that tight a budget and if he was, he would have balked at paying $600 over the phone via credit card to have his computer fixed.  Sounds more like OP is on a tight budget since the thought of his dad forking over that kind of cash made him want to go around hitting random people...

 Oh, I'm not a kid Wink



 
newbie
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homer, you are the one who doesn't realize that people can be on a budget-tight as hell.

you are not helping matters any by indicating that it is cheap.

Because, for them it isn't. The idea for rolluptherimtowin was novel, though.

I could not believe Dad fell for the scam. Mum fortunately saw through it and got him to go

to Best Buy to get convinced.  Dad relented and found out the truth. I couldn't have felt more

                                                              VINDICATED!
legendary
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Tell your parents not to keep anything they can't handle losing on their PC.
And maybe teach them how to put pictures on a USB drive etc.
Chances are that is the only valuable on the PC aside from Credentials.

THEN.. tell them be careful but if anything happens ?
Do nothing !
YOU will come over to their house and re-install Windows etc on their machines fresh.

Mine are pretty damn savvy.. i am lucky.
And they also know the go to method is to re-install Windows.. and they do all on their own.

EDIT:
Homer you said...
"$600 CAD is a pretty cheap education"

BULLSHIT !

What if his senior parents are on a tight budget ?
$600 could be a massive beating.. a lot of people just wouldn't have it !
OR be able to get it in 7 days..

Not everyone is made of money rich kid.
legendary
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Actually, $600 CAD is a pretty cheap education.  I think my niece paid $10k CAD for her first year of university in Canada - that might have included a residence fee though... not sure.
  My parents are the same when it comes to computers, they try to learn but it's totally foreign to them.  If I happen to be angry about it when something happens, I do my best not to show it because if you curse and stomp around, they're not going to call you and ask you for help when they need it.  You are essentially setting the stage for a recurrence by way of your actions.  Calm the fuck down.  If you live in Canada, $600 is SFA.


Edit: Set them up a couple of accounts on rollluptherim; maybe they can win it back from Timmy's.
sr. member
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Yes some people fall for the easiest scams ever, especially old people are easy targets.
They will believe everything because they don't know a lot about technology and doing everything online.

I know that if someone calls you and says you have a problem with ur computer that guy is full of shit, but for us computers and technology are easy, but if I look at my grandma she doesn't even know how to work with a pc or mobile phone.
While the daughter of a friend of mine who is 2 years old, knows exactly how a smartphone and tablet work.

The only thing you can do is warn them and if something like that happens again you tell them they should call you before they do anything!
newbie
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I found out through Mum that dad went to Best Buy and learned there that this whole fucking fiasco was indeed a scam JUST LIKE I SAID.

Then from there he went to his bank and explained what happened and the bank did paperwork for MasterCard to get the money back. MC paid at first,

so AFAIK, they can get this reversed somehow. I hope now Dad learned to FUCKING LISTEN TO ME WHEN I SAY SOMETHING.

IF YOU KNEW MY DAD, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TALK TO A POST.
sr. member
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Well we cant blame our dads if they'd be in trouble in that ways. So you gotta show him around the net.
hero member
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My dad was a victim of hackers that wanted a ransom to unlock his files.  Luckily he didn't have much on the computer worth losing and he had most things backed up.  He didn't pay a ransom, but he did take it somewhere to have his computer cleaned up, so it did cost him something, but not much.
newbie
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My dad didn't actually spend the 78 or 600 on the ransomware just yet, but he had considered it seriously. I got done calling him and

told him to stick with what he knew, NORTON. I insisted on that for that is what he knows and has trusted for years. I said any paid

options should only be ones basically found in mainstream computer stores. I sure chilled out after finding out this update and told him

to cancel his credit card and watch for unusual changes and charges on them.
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Seen a lot of old people in libraries that are clueless about email alone. See people explain and they usually waste 10 minutes before they realize its a death trap.
newbie
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TBH, he has a slight stroke, so he wasn't at his sharpest in the drawer, I suppose when it happened. I didn't come to think of that one, tbh.

That could be one of the underlying factors of why it didn't clue in that he was in a scam. I just knew when he got the computer an explosion

like this could happen. IDK why, but I knew he was in trouble sooner or later.
newbie
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Can't say I haven't tried with him. I have tried numerous times.

I told him about several things and still he keeps at it. If his credit

card is now stollen, I am going to say yes it WAS a scam. I was so

unsurprised at all this. He NEVER admitted scam or anything. Nope,

no scam here, he was like. Damn, should get computer security for

dummies or something like that.
legendary
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Coming in here and bitching over not teaching your father basic internets isn't going to save anything at this point unfortunately.

I highly suggest giving him internet 101 before letting him get all his personal info stolen (if it isn't already).
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No offence but 78 is getting up there, my neighbor fell for the same scam and shes in her fifties. We have to realize at a certain age you are not going to see much change for the better. Share the worry but we differ on getting angry at them.
See so many people yelling at their older parents, bit of a pet peave. That and kids ripping their parents off as they become more reliant on them.
Show some patience, you are lucky to still have parents around. parental locks sound like a good idea though if he is starting to slip.
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What gets me is that REAL Microsoft tech support is unlikely to talk in broken English.

Before the fact, I came into the info that Microsoft is illegally used by dark world to pull these scams.

I dont know if he had gotten an 800 number or what. He should have compared the number against a

REAL MICROSOFT VERIFIED PRODUCT! Thing that I severely doubt he did.

Had he seen this number discrepancy, he would have had a clearer clue to question. I don't give a damn

if he got the real verified Microsoft number off the back of a Microsoft format disk.

Another pointer, Microsoft wouldn't EVAR initiate contact through action on phone or computer unless

YOU YOURSELF initiated said contact-GET IT!?
newbie
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I am not all sorry crybaby about dad just yet. I am so critically mad that I could hit random people if it was socially acceptable.  I mean, wow.

$600 CAD in savings MEANT for him to live off of, along with Mum. I was that sitting duck on the side of the lake watching a whole event unfold, crash and burn, meaning as soon

as Dad got that computer, something would happen. I just know all along from day one. This takes the FUCKING CAKE!
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