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staff
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March 13, 2023, 07:21:14 PM
#6
It really depends how much you value your privacy. If you don't want anyone knowing you run a Bitcoin node, it's probably not best to run one. However, if you are set on running one, then the next best option would be via Tor, and only risking your information being retrieved via the exit node.

However, for the majority of people running via clear net is probably okay. As long as your ISP can be trusted, which there's an argument that no third party or ISP can be trusted. It highly depends on your threat model, and who you trust. If you trust your ISP, then there's no real concerns. If you don't trust your security or your ISP security, then if any of those were compromised an attack could potentially find out you run the Bitcoin node, and therefore highly likely to use Bitcoin yourself, which could mean you become a target, theoretically.

why shouldn't you also use VPN as an additional option?
You're basically involving another third party, when you don't necessarily need too. The only way someone knows you're running a Bitcoin node via Tor, would be the exit node itself. Unless, the entity you're trying to hide your Bitcoin node activity from owns that exit node, there's no way of them deciphering what you are doing. If you involve a VPN service, then that VPN service could potentially know you're running a Bitcoin node, as well as the exit node of that Tor circuit.

Your ISP would know you're running Tor, but there's nothing wrong with running Tor, and it doesn't tell the ISP what Tor is being used for. If your ISP thinks it's an issue you're running Tor, change ISP. However, if all depends on who you don't want to know you run a Bitcoin node or own Bitcoin. If it's the government, they will know it's generally considered even the most private persons on the internet can't avoid the government, plus if you live in a country which requires taxation you should be declaring your taxes on Bitcoin to them. If it's your ISP; fair enough, but just use Tor.
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 49
March 13, 2023, 02:37:58 PM
#5
Do you think it would be better to run the full node over VPN + Tor?
Better for what?

It depends on the application that you will give to that node, if you want to use it as your personal node and you will always use it from LAN then I don't think you will need VPN + TOR. But if you will use it as a public node with the idea to access from other networks, then user VPN + TOR could be a wise move.

Or can you run the node over the clearnet without fear?

What's your fear my friend? until now no one has ended up in Jail for running a Node. And If your fear is about cyber-security, then isn't about Node by its serf, the problem is how you manage your network.
I wanted to use the node privately via LAN.
VPN router
Tor

My fear is that my IP appears somewhere, I would like to remain as anonymous as possible.

Do you think it would be better to run the full node over VPN + Tor?
You should never run VPN together with Tor for anything, including for Bitcoin node.
Running BTC node with Tor sergice is used a lot and it works perfectly fine for purpose of hiding your real IP address.

Or can you run the node over the clearnet without fear?
Running Tor, VPN or Bitcoin node can be interpreted as suspicious behavior in some countries, so don't ask other people if you should fear something.

PS
You are asking so many silly questions that I seriously doubt you will ever run full node, make multisig setup, etc...  Roll Eyes
why shouldn't you also use VPN as an additional option?

I want to do everything right, these are not silly questions for me, I'd rather ask than make any mistakes later Smiley
you are not forced to answer, you can just ignore my posts if it annoys you Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
March 13, 2023, 02:16:17 PM
#4
Do you think it would be better to run the full node over VPN + Tor?
You should never run VPN together with Tor for anything, including for Bitcoin node.
Running BTC node with Tor sergice is used a lot and it works perfectly fine for purpose of hiding your real IP address.

Or can you run the node over the clearnet without fear?
Running Tor, VPN or Bitcoin node can be interpreted as suspicious behavior in some countries, so don't ask other people if you should fear something.

PS
You are asking so many silly questions that I seriously doubt you will ever run full node, make multisig setup, etc...  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 3130
March 13, 2023, 11:37:12 AM
#3
Do you think it would be better to run the full node over VPN + Tor?
Better for what?

It depends on the application that you will give to that node, if you want to use it as your personal node and you will always use it from LAN then I don't think you will need VPN + TOR. But if you will use it as a public node with the idea to access from other networks, then user VPN + TOR could be a wise move.

Or can you run the node over the clearnet without fear?

What's your fear my friend? until now no one has ended up in Jail for running a Node. And If your fear is about cyber-security, then isn't about Node by its serf, the problem is how you manage your network.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 7340
Farewell, Leo
March 13, 2023, 10:39:27 AM
#2
Depends on which country you live. If it's somewhere where using bitcoin is illegal, then running a node in clearnet is plain dumb. Your Internet provider can figure out you do easily as messages aren't encrypted. In that case, you should just run via Tor.

There aren't lots of disadvantages with Tor. Only speed. If you sync for the first time, it might take a few days to finish syncing. Consider adding onlynet=onion to go full Tor.
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 49
March 13, 2023, 10:22:29 AM
#1
Hello dear bitcoin community.

Do you think it would be better to run the full node over VPN + Tor?

Or can you run the node over the clearnet without fear?


Best regards
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