omg i just was so confused.because crypto-games.net and cryptogames.io i think same dice.
sorry again sir
sorry again sir
Oopsie!
Topic: Fun CryptoGames - cryptogames.io | Play games and earn bitcoins | Provably Fair - page 17. (Read 49664 times)
August 10, 2015, 10:25:48 AM
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August 10, 2015, 10:19:52 AM
omg i just was so confused.because crypto-games.net and cryptogames.io i think same dice.
sorry again sir
sorry again sir
Oopsie!
August 09, 2015, 04:03:40 AM
We're preparing signature promo campaign for CryptoGames. What other giveaways or campaigns could be interesting for you? Examples would be great.
Some sort of no deposit bonuses and most wagered competition or who first hit 777 win reward
Weekly wagered leaderboard with a fixed bonus or % rakeback to the top players or happy hours that reduce the house edge to a much lower % temporarily.
August 08, 2015, 08:11:18 PM
We're preparing signature promo campaign for CryptoGames. What other giveaways or campaigns could be interesting for you? Examples would be great.
Some sort of no deposit bonuses and most wagered competition or who first hit 777 win reward
August 08, 2015, 04:52:29 PM
We're preparing signature promo campaign for CryptoGames. What other giveaways or campaigns could be interesting for you? Examples would be great.
BTC giveaways for sure, but watch out for giveaways, they are forbidden in this forum.
Giveaway is not forbidden in this forum, because there is "games and rounds" section which is usually used to post any kinds of giveaways and promos. So i guess you want to say "section/board" instead of "forum".
August 08, 2015, 06:27:30 AM
We're preparing signature promo campaign for CryptoGames. What other giveaways or campaigns could be interesting for you? Examples would be great.
BTC giveaways for sure, but watch out for giveaways, they are forbidden in this forum.
August 07, 2015, 09:49:37 AM
We're preparing signature promo campaign for CryptoGames. What other giveaways or campaigns could be interesting for you? Examples would be great.
Maybe twitter campaign. It would be great 
August 07, 2015, 09:29:58 AM
We're preparing signature promo campaign for CryptoGames. What other giveaways or campaigns could be interesting for you? Examples would be great.
August 05, 2015, 04:33:51 AM
Today I would like to congratulate Ufidoyiz957!
Who made the tiny deposit of 0.00420000BTC and managed to get 0.11539336BTC out of it. Numbers aren't big in absolute values but the profit % is huge.
Good luck!
Who made the tiny deposit of 0.00420000BTC and managed to get 0.11539336BTC out of it. Numbers aren't big in absolute values but the profit % is huge.
Good luck!
August 04, 2015, 09:41:50 AM
Hi dooglus !
Thanks for your investigation it was impressive, and I'm happy leaving you satisfied
Thanks for your investigation it was impressive, and I'm happy leaving you satisfied
August 03, 2015, 01:54:35 PM
Anyone who interested to know how our Provably Fair feature works.
Please check the description on our web-site and glance through the guide I wrote here.
If after all these readings you still have a question, please post it here.
Please check the description on our web-site and glance through the guide I wrote here.
If after all these readings you still have a question, please post it here.
I read all those readings but I don't think any of my three questions were answered by it.
How do I find the "page of the bet" for slot spins? I suspect that if I could find that page it would answer my first question.
Edit: I think I found it! I clicked on the link that says "Uqijeyy988" in the top left corner and my recent bets were listed! Maybe rename the link "Bet history" or something that makes sense.
Edit2: Once I found that, the rest followed. I was able to verify all my slot spins with a single command, like this:
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$ n=9; while ((n>=0)); do echo $n $(php -r '$server_seed = "138d94bfb49733fa00153642c51104b6a451c21a7916d5f93e7f250a8730f503"; $client_seed = "derp99"; $nonce = '$n'; $reels = [["7","7\/D","7\/D","D","D","D\/C","D\/C","C","C","C","C\/3B","3B","3B","3B","3B","3B\/2B","2B","2B","2B","2B","2B","2B\/B","2B\/B", "B","B","B","B","B","B","B","B\/7","B\/7"],["7","7\/D","7\/D","D","D\/C","D\/C","C","C","C","C\/3B","C\/3B","3B","3B","3B","3B\/2B","3B\/2B","2B","2B","2B","2B","2B\/B","2B\/B", "B","B","B","B","B","B","B","B","B\/7","B\/7"],["7","7\/D","7\/D","D","D","D\/C","C","C","C","C\/3B","3B","3B","3B","3B","3B\/2B","3B\/2B","2B","2B","2B","2B","2B","2B\/B", "B","B","B","B","B","B","B","B\/7","B\/7","B\/7"]]; $hash = hash("sha512", $server_seed.$client_seed.$nonce); $mt_seed = hexdec(substr($hash, 0, 4).substr($hash, -4)); mt_srand($mt_seed); for ($i = 0; $i < 3; $i++) echo $reels[$i][mt_rand(0, count($reels[$i]) - 1)].($i != 2 ? "," : "\n");'); ((n--)); done
9 2B,3B,B
8 D,3B\/2B,B\/7
7 B\/7,2B,3B
6 2B,B\/7,C\/3B
5 B\/7,7\/D,B
4 B,2B,D
3 C,3B,2B
2 3B,B,D\/C
1 B,2B,C
0 2B,B,3B
9 2B,3B,B
8 D,3B\/2B,B\/7
7 B\/7,2B,3B
6 2B,B\/7,C\/3B
5 B\/7,7\/D,B
4 B,2B,D
3 C,3B,2B
2 3B,B,D\/C
1 B,2B,C
0 2B,B,3B
The '\/' means the wheel landed between the two symbols shown, and it matches up with the screenshots I took. (Were you thinking the forward slash needed escaping, and that's why you preceded it with a backslash? It doesn't, and the backslash gets shown in the output).
So it's all a bit backwards - the algorithm isn't shown until after you randomize your roll, and the server seed isn't shown when you randomize, but only when you find the bet history page, which you can only find by clicking the garbled text link in the top left. But it does actually seem to work.
Edit3: I tried calculating the house edge on the slot game:
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reel 1: 10*- 7*1 5*2 4*3 1*7 3*C 2*D
reel 2: 12*- 8*1 4*2 3*3 1*7 3*C 1*D
reel 3: 10*- 7*1 5*2 4*3 1*7 3*C 2*D
one-in- chance win pays ways to win
------- -------- --- ---- -----------
32768 0.0030% 777 1000 1*1*1 = 1
8192 0.0122% DDD 500 2*1*2 = 4
1213.62 0.0823% CCC 100 3*3*3 = 27
682.66 0.1464% 333 50 4*3*4 = 48
327.68 0.3051% 222 20 5*4*5 = 100
83.59 1.1962% 111 10 7*8*7 = 392
41.84 2.3895% CC 5 3*3*(32-3)*3 = 783
9.92 10.0708% nnn 2 (4+5+7)*(3+4+8)*(4+5+7) - 4*3*4 - 5*4*5 - 7*8*7 = 3300
4.32 23.0987% C 1 3*(32-3)*(32-3)*3 = 7569
1.59 62.6953% lose 0
payout per 32*32*32 = 32768 spins =
1000*1 + 500*4 + 100*27 + 50*48 + 20*100 + 10*392 + 5*783 + 2*3300 + 1*7569 = 32104
RTP = 32104 * 100.0 / 32768 = 97.9736328125%
reel 2: 12*- 8*1 4*2 3*3 1*7 3*C 1*D
reel 3: 10*- 7*1 5*2 4*3 1*7 3*C 2*D
one-in- chance win pays ways to win
------- -------- --- ---- -----------
32768 0.0030% 777 1000 1*1*1 = 1
8192 0.0122% DDD 500 2*1*2 = 4
1213.62 0.0823% CCC 100 3*3*3 = 27
682.66 0.1464% 333 50 4*3*4 = 48
327.68 0.3051% 222 20 5*4*5 = 100
83.59 1.1962% 111 10 7*8*7 = 392
41.84 2.3895% CC 5 3*3*(32-3)*3 = 783
9.92 10.0708% nnn 2 (4+5+7)*(3+4+8)*(4+5+7) - 4*3*4 - 5*4*5 - 7*8*7 = 3300
4.32 23.0987% C 1 3*(32-3)*(32-3)*3 = 7569
1.59 62.6953% lose 0
payout per 32*32*32 = 32768 spins =
1000*1 + 500*4 + 100*27 + 50*48 + 20*100 + 10*392 + 5*783 + 2*3300 + 1*7569 = 32104
RTP = 32104 * 100.0 / 32768 = 97.9736328125%
So it checks out with the 97.97% you claimed.
Here's a more concise verification function:
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php -r '$server_seed = "138d94bfb49733fa00153642c51104b6a451c21a7916d5f93e7f250a8730f503"; $client_seed = "derp99"; $nonce = 9; $reels = ["7--DD--CCC-3333-22222--1111111--","7--D--CCC--333--2222--11111111--","7--DD-CCC-3333--22222-1111111---"]; $hash = hash("sha512", $server_seed.$client_seed.$nonce); $mt_seed = hexdec(substr($hash, 0, 4).substr($hash, -4)); mt_srand($mt_seed); for ($i = 0; $i < 3; $i++) echo substr($reels[$i], mt_rand(0, strlen($reels[$i]) - 1), 1); echo "\n";'
I don't like the idea of using a PHP-specific random function. I think the output of mt_rand() changes depending on what version of PHP you use, so it's not ideal. But it does work I guess, so long as we use the same version of PHP.
August 03, 2015, 01:45:43 PM
I'm told I posted this in the wrong thread:
Hi.
I've been asked by one of your players to check out the provable fairness of your games.
I took a look, but am unable to find the information I need.
1) How do I get to see the server seed after randomizing? I see the new and old client seeds and server seed hashes, but at no point am I seeing the old (unhashed) server seed.
2) What do I need to put in the "result" field of the verifier?
3) Where do you publish the algorithm that is used to convert a client seed, server seed and nonce into a dice roll, a slot spin, or other game outcome? I'm not finding it.
Thanks in advance.
I've been asked by one of your players to check out the provable fairness of your games.
I took a look, but am unable to find the information I need.
1) How do I get to see the server seed after randomizing? I see the new and old client seeds and server seed hashes, but at no point am I seeing the old (unhashed) server seed.
2) What do I need to put in the "result" field of the verifier?
3) Where do you publish the algorithm that is used to convert a client seed, server seed and nonce into a dice roll, a slot spin, or other game outcome? I'm not finding it.
Thanks in advance.
August 03, 2015, 04:03:48 AM
Anyone who interested to know how our Provably Fair feature works.
Please check the description on our web-site and glance through the guide I wrote here.
If after all these readings you still have a question, please post it here.
Please check the description on our web-site and glance through the guide I wrote here.
If after all these readings you still have a question, please post it here.
August 03, 2015, 03:49:09 AM
Let's kickstart this week, guys!
July 31, 2015, 02:44:34 AM
Thanks for the update.
Yup it is just a small issue, so feel free to handle it after your developers are free.
Yup it is just a small issue, so feel free to handle it after your developers are free.
July 31, 2015, 02:19:42 AM
Hi Dennis777.
We've tested the behavior you're pointing on. When you click max bet, it always sets to the maximum possible bet that could be placed. Then if you'll change to probability % and the max bet will decrease, it'll not be automatically reflected in the Max Bet field. In that case, you have to click Max Bet once again to fetch the actual number.
As you found the current behavior inconvenient, I've created the tasks for developers to fetch actual max bet automatically after any change is made. It got an own place in the development queue and will be done sometime after. Can't promise you any specific date.
We've tested the behavior you're pointing on. When you click max bet, it always sets to the maximum possible bet that could be placed. Then if you'll change to probability % and the max bet will decrease, it'll not be automatically reflected in the Max Bet field. In that case, you have to click Max Bet once again to fetch the actual number.
As you found the current behavior inconvenient, I've created the tasks for developers to fetch actual max bet automatically after any change is made. It got an own place in the development queue and will be done sometime after. Can't promise you any specific date.
July 24, 2015, 10:57:43 PM
A small issue I noticed:
When I play with "free money" and set win chance to 0.01%, hitting the max bet amount button will set it to 50.6 even when I have more than that.
When I play with bitcoin and set win chance to 0.01%, hitting the max bet amount button will set it to my current balance but there will be a message "Bet must be less than 0.0000163 BTC." when I try to place the bet.
I think the setup in "free money" mode is more reasonable.
Hi Dennis7777 we do have the max bet limit when you play with a crypto-currency. More to say, I bet you'll not find any gambling without it.
Guess I didn't make my point clearly.
I fully understand the need of bankroll management and hence a limit on max bet or max payout.
But say if, under your current size of bankroll, the max bet at 0.01% is 0.0000163 BTC, I would expect the bet size would be set to exactly that amount after hitting the max bet amount button.
July 24, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
A small issue I noticed:
When I play with "free money" and set win chance to 0.01%, hitting the max bet amount button will set it to 50.6 even when I have more than that.
When I play with bitcoin and set win chance to 0.01%, hitting the max bet amount button will set it to my current balance but there will be a message "Bet must be less than 0.0000163 BTC." when I try to place the bet.
I think the setup in "free money" mode is more reasonable.
Hi Dennis7777 we do have the max bet limit when you play with a cryptocurrency. More to say, I bet you'll not find any gambling without it.
July 24, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
Hi all.
Thanks for your feedback, it's important to know it from the first hands.
Great! plost24 we plan 2 more new games to add to the site. The next one will be wheel of fortune and I'm sure it'll be the nice surprise.
Nice to hear that. We still have a lot to do to increase our reach, as we honestly think that Crypto Games gives unique high quality experience. Having courage to innovate. As you've said, vendetahome.
Hi panjul07, nice to hear you. Purple is a bit girly... hm, OK... say it to these guys:
Thanks for your feedback, it's important to know it from the first hands.
i'm playing right now cool games good luck to improve you games more and more 
Great! plost24 we plan 2 more new games to add to the site. The next one will be wheel of fortune and I'm sure it'll be the nice surprise.
the design of the website is on of the best that i have ever seen in my life, i believe you can be really successful you just need to make some promos and introduce more games into your website
Nice to hear that. We still have a lot to do to increase our reach, as we honestly think that Crypto Games gives unique high quality experience. Having courage to innovate. As you've said, vendetahome.
What a great design, but I dont like the purple background because seems a little bit girly IMHO.
Hi panjul07, nice to hear you. Purple is a bit girly... hm, OK... say it to these guys
: July 24, 2015, 12:14:44 PM
What a great design, but I dont like the purple background because seems a little bit girly IMHO.
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