Topic: Funny since the Cryptotalk campaign came/ pour in your heart here about yobit. - page 4. (Read 1394 times)

originally, I joined the YoShit campaign years back because someone noticed I posted so much I should join a campaign and get paid for it....
Highest paid with fewest restrictions was yobit (0.0003/post back then).... so I went for it.
I mean, just on an average day of random replies and help to others during the big pushes, I was making well over $10-$20/day sometimes... just for shit I was doing already.



Fast forward a few years later, and all the sudden the sig is banned.....   and I find myself falling into the position I am in now.
I wont sign back up to them,   no way in hell....   Not worth the heartache in the end at this juncture.

I believe the current campaign at this juncture has already breached the rules TBH.    In order to add people in the past (originally if memory serves) you needed to have your posts vetted before even being added to a sig campaign, on top of being a ranked member.   

Imagine campaigns having to vet the members for a change.... what a concept....   
Imagine where the blame for 'members bad participation skills' after joining the sig campaign will be placed?  How easy would it be able to control then?

I don't see sig campaigns being a good thing for the site in the end after seeing both sides of the coin.     I mean, free crypto is free crypto..... but it truly comes at a major cost; which in the grand picture is not worth it.

Why do I feel like I just finished a border wall debate/conversation with someone? 

Well, it's nothing surprising. Why to join random bounty campaign where you will get paid some tokens, when you can get decent payment in BTC? Usually it's difficult to be accepted in campaign, mainly due to very limited spots, but Cryptotalk campaign is different and easiest to join, so, it's not strange that it attract lot of people. I don't know how many people are in this campaign, but last time when I checked there was over 400 participants. Seems that Yobit have very big budget for this campaign.
Imagine what would happen if they would start accepting lower rank accounts. Then bounty campaigns simply would die
But personally, I wouldn't join Cryptotalk even if they pay better than my current campaign. I just don't want to be asociated with all these spammers. I noticed that that my eyes started to skip posts written by Cryptotalk participants - it's prejudice that post isn't worth to read just because it was written by Cryptotalk participants.

Well, I live in Eastern Europe and I would have to spam hard and make 20 posts almost every day to earn average wage in my country. It doesn't sounds good... I'll stick with my current job.

The overall Bitcoin and altcoin/token markets are in a real lull right now. I think that has more to do with it. If conditions were like 2017, we would see a lot more projects raising money and being hyped up -- including with forum campaigns.

Then again, if Cryptotalk posters are pushing everyone else's ads off the page, that could be a real deterrent to starting one...

Your hypothesis on the reduction of high rank members (snr-legendary) interested in participating in bounty related campaign is quite accurate, I have been paying close attention to that board lately (as you can see my signature campaign is an altcoin related campaign). More and more previous bounty promoters are diverting to Cryptotalk signature campaign since the assurance of getting rewarded its quite sure than trusting your time to some worthless token that might or might not get listed on an exchange with decent trading volume to sell rewards (tokens) to bitcoin or ethereum.

Currently there's over 400+ cryptotalk participants which obviously some large amount of those participants were previous bounty promoters as most of them would hardly get a slot in any bitcoin paying signature campaign requiring quality participants. The issue of spam has it contribution from the fact, previously this promoters were only required to make just 7-14 post per week to recieve stakes but now they're aiming to post the 20 post daily limit (140 weekly posts) which they're not used. So obviously their work would just be worthless (pointless) contributions, even those trying to decieve the masses by writing all kinds of articles in the name of not spamming.

Anyone uses more than 1 account and makes 20 posts daily with each of them, have to spam. Then they will likely be banned by Yahoo62278. There are very few users in the forum that are able to make more than 20 constructive posts per day. Those users are participating in better campaigns.  

That's without considering the plethora of alt accounts which are likely enrolled in the system. You could potentially x10 that amount considering the amount of account farming which was happening before the merit system was introduced. Considering, there's been a few accounts waking up recently would signal towards alternate accounts too.

Apart from the orange monkey cheeseburger stuff....

Isn't Yobit paying 20k satoshi for legendary and 15k for Hero?
Using your advanced mathematics in which I will input my updated price of 10k$ per BTC that would make around 1200$ for Legendary and ...something less for Hero 

That would top even the average wage in Eastern Europe

I have been little reluctant in wearing this signature initially, but with yahoo's management I thought of stepping in this campaign. Being a pretty decent poster myself, it's been always difficult for me to join other gambling signatures for most of the time. There are various reasons why I thought of promoting cryptotalk in my signature space.

Cryptotalk is a forum and they are unlikely to scam anyone and meanwhile promoting this cryptotalk forum is far better than promoting a gambling site in my signature IMO. Before I wear a signature for each time, I personally verify, deposit, withdraw and gamble with my money. If they are proven to be trustworthy I would move on with wearing the signature. This is probably because I post in some of the most really good (non-spammy) sections of Bitcointalk (be it Development and Tech Section, Meta, Beginners and Help, Collectibles, Serious Discussion etc.) where majority of the posters would be viewing my signature and if on rare instances could try the site.

The second one is that, I am not a very active Gambling Discussion poster and on the other hand I don't qualify for the minimum posts for the majority of the time. Posting around 25/30 per week is kind of a nightmare for me for most of the time and I have been kicked out of the campaigns for this particular reason. Cryptotalk campaign doesn't have the minimum post count which makes it even more better to wear them for posters like me.

P.S I would be one among the rare Cryptotalk participants to promote this forum in some of the important non-spammy sections in the upcoming days and I am good to know about that. As I have already said, these signature campaigns in bitcointalk are literally a honor for us to receive pay for posting and they shouldn't be forgotten while posting.

EDIT to add some note : I recently spoke with Zwei to remove my name from WolfBet campaign where they pay the same 0.00016BTC per post which Cryptotalk pays me but the latter gives me more freedom in having no minimum posts and I don't need to post a minimum number in Gambling section.

You now say Vietnam,
Try to see in the life of the third world of Singapore.
How low and high.

If the revenue in the yobit campaign is 1.01 $ in per post, multiplied by 20 in one day = 20.2 $ and in one month times 30 = $ 606.
and added 10 uncles = $ 6,060. in one month.

Very noble yobit campaign, can employ all family members there, uncle, mother, grandmother, sister-in-law.

If yobit participants, living in Singapore, may in a few months buy a new car or new home.

I think if the yobit campaign runs for one year, the company and manager Bounty must suck their fingers, If the wave of the ban doesn't swell.

Lol in India, it's like more than a professors monthly salary like $140 a week or 560$ a month is like 40000 INR a month. That's what a doctor in a government hospital giving 8-10 hours a day duty earns!!!

Well, let's take a look at Vietnam:

According to some of the cost of living sources


Compared with the average salary:


At current prices, and making 20 posts a day for a week they would be earning $141.4. For arguments sake we'll just say a month is 4 7 day weeks; They would then be earning $565 which would mean they would be earning over the average monthly net salary by a total of $185.65 which is roughly around $2227 more every year.

Vietnam being one of the more expensive third world countries to live in when compared with the likes of Venezuela.

According to https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-latin-america-45179671, it buys more fuel than I'll use in a lifetime in Venezuela.

Well $20 buys 20 cheeseburgers in a first world country led by an orange balloon so I reckon with your advanced mathematics you could extrapolate from that  

Yobit pays what, 12k satoshi per post up to 20 posts per day?  You better believe everybody and their mother is going to be applying for that campaign.  If my advanced mathematics is correct (lol), that's $1.01 per post.  Somebody please tell me what $20.20 buys in a 3rd world country.  I mean that, I'm very interested to know.

And I don't frequent the spam-filled sections of the forum, like Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion and other sections Yobit pays for, but I would imagine that most of the posts being cranked out by cryptotalk.org participants are pure spam.  Yahoo62278 is doing an excellent job of trying to maintain control of the campaign, but there are still shitposters who are going to slip through the cracks.  

And yeah, the participants probably don't have a lot of other options as far as making money on the forum.  They could take their chances with some shitty-ass bounty that might not pay them with some tokens that are worthless anyway, but the Yobit campaign is a sure thing--if they don't get banned first.  It doesn't seem to be as bad as when Yobit launched their last campaign.  I attribute that to Yahoo62278's management.

Edit:

Big LOL.

There are many users in the forum who don't qualify for participating in bitcoin-paying signature campaigns and they have to participate in bounties (I mean signature campaigns that pay participants with their ICO/IEO tokens). Manager of bounties usually are not strict on applications and accept everyone interested in their campaign unless the user has negative trust.
Cryptotalk campaign provided a good opportunity for those users who were not able to earn bitcoin before. Joining cryptotalk campaign is not as difficult as other bitcoin-paying campaigns. If your rank is senior member or higher you can easily join the campaign. You don't need to be accepted by managers.
Cryptotalk campaign is a good opportunity for those who say: "Please accept me, I will make high quality posts from now". They should use this opportunity. If they spam, they will quickly kicked out by Yahoo62278. If they spam they will likely lose their chance to participate in many of future bitcoin-paying campaigns too. I expect Yahoo62278 and also some other managers take a look at List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign before they accept users.

Your rank means that you have been on the forum for w good time so should this surprise you that we are just 13days into the month and only one new signature campaign so far, don't forget wolfbet reopened on 30sept
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cfnp-wolfbet-signature-campaign-srherolegendary-up-to-0008-btcw-5186462
  that fact that no new signature campaign on service has nothing to do with yobit. Bounty organiser are not deterred by which campaign is on going, if you have the fund for a campaign then you can run one

that, talk about facts, not engineering or fairy tales.
New sig campaign.

Topic: [BOUNTY]🔶vipgame.io🔶 | SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN-$$- Up to 0.006 BTC per week

only one campaign for sig this month, another, the old sig campaign.

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No one said that the yobit campaign was the one who masterminded the problem,
You know the meaning of funny, Lol.
People are not interested in other campaigns such as: Bounty etc. So quiet,
People run to yobit.
your understand what I mean.

Yobit can not be blamed for the low turn out of signature campaign it is just a coincidence that campaign are not coming out.
Also the 20post a day maximum can result to spamming and to add to that the simplicity to join the campaign with out proper screening of participants can make matter worse.
About altcoin it's not recently that high Ranking members started to see that altcoins campaign is turning out to be time wasting at times, and the newbies that are there some with multiple account on the same bounty are of the option of other campaigns like social media, article Etc. Still yobit is not to be blamed for that.
Also the manager that is handling the yobit campaign thread has compiled list of those wrong doers
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-banned-participants-in-the-cryptotalk-campaign-5188200

I disagree that one campaign is the reason why new ones don't appear, although I didn't keep track of how many new campaigns a week or a month appeared. People are always looking for the easiest and the highest-paid signature campaigns, and one that you mentioned offers them just that. The fact that anyone can apply, that there is no selection process and that number of post is 20 per day provides a solid income opportunity, especially for those who have multiple accounts.

On the one hand, it is not good that some spammers have switched from bounty to signature campaigns, now they are all over the forum despite efforts to prevent them, but maybe some of them will see good opportunity and try to contribute to the forum more than usual.

I often visit the service board, but since the Cryptotalk alias yobit campaign came.
Rarely new sig campaigns appear, who knows why.
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

people ran into the yobit campaign.

This month there is a new sig campaign, but few participants apply.
People prefer: yobit



This also happened on the Altcoin board.
Bounty, the lonely manager of participants who registered.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0

No high ranking participant is interested in Bounty despite the high token payment offer, people run to: yobit



Most of the applicants are Newbies at social bounties.

This is funny, if the Cryptotalk campaign accepts Newbie and Member participants, maybe the bounty manager should promote the project alone without the applicants applying, possibly.

This is one form that people who come to this forum for the sake of dollars, no matter what happens.
What is the account: red trust, buy account, old account not in use now wake up, rarely post now explode, spam.
It's just funny to me, bullshit.