Topic: Futuristic project: upload your brain in a blockchain (Read 4258 times)

As long as their is a gravemind we will all be fine

hey thats interesting actually but consider this philosophical thingy:

if time passes and your mind is not switched on, then you are not the same person.

you will look 100% identical and HE will feel like YOU for sure. Other will think it is you.

Man is tied to the time-continuum.

Look at this man.
He also wants to live forever.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/10/paulallenqa/
A couple of billionaires and the project can be financed.

Sure. All what is in the blockchain is static, but would be very resource intensive to update it every 10 min so it will be only an incremental upload every week for standard virtual minds. (for premiums every day)
But every 10 minutes the hash of the incremental change will be updated and the incremental changes will be backup-ed on more servers until it will be uploaded in the blockchain.
The servers must have a 99.99% running up-time guaranty so once a year could happen that results of 10 min thinking of a virtual mind get lost.
That would be not tragical, it is just as would you sleep 10 minutes. The world has gone forward but you was not aware of it.
Another limitation will be that only 1% of your virtual minds content can change/month(12%/year). This would be not only to use less resources but also to protect them and would be a little bit higher then the average changing rate of a healthy biological brain's content.
For increased security the minds will run on one of many Virtual Minds Application Server's secured environment. The Server will be chosen randomly for every mind.
The World Future Intelligence Agency will make pressure on companies to implant Random Generator weakening measures in their products. This way they hope that in short time when they will be ready with a supercomputer, they could predict which mind when and where will run.
So the blockchain alone will be not enough to secure the virtual minds against manipulations. A very engaged developer team will supervise that all is running well.
A genial programmer of a Virtual Minds Application Server will show a bug how some parts of virtual minds could transferred to other mind but another programmer FutureSnailbrain2 will fix it quickly before any harm happens. He will receive as reward from the Namecoin2 Foundation that his mind will be uploaded for free and hosted forever in the Namecoin2 blockchain as life/FutureSnailbrain2 namespace entry.
 

There will be a SilkBrain, who will trade code snippets which will enhance Virtual Minds speed. This snippets could be even implanted in a biological brain with nano harpoons which will be traded illegally. SilkBrain developed with some others his programms and implanted them in his brain to test them. Others followed him. He became half genious-half crazy.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/04/silk-brain-computer-interface/
Many people will become crazy by using this technology. Others will become more intelligent and will worship SilkBrain.
So The World Future Intelligence Agency will chase SilkBrain, the evil mind.
http://io9.com/humans-with-amplified-intelligence-could-be-more-powerf-509309984


No. But I will think about it. Thanks. You know a lot of things what I don't know.

I don't make promises I am not able to keep whistle must invade neighbours mind and mine his virtual data
I will become Gravemind

LOL.. i like how you think Virtual-master

Problem thought, if our minds are stored in the block chain, they are going to be static? how can they change except once every 10 minutes... 1 Chronon = 10minutes.. maybe if we can reduce chronons (blocks) down to 0.00000000000000001 seconds ..
although.. as time is just a perception the virtual minds may experience time in the same way that we experience it (even if 10 minute block times).. so to us 10 years may have past but only 0.0000000000001 seconds have  past in the VirtualMindBlockChain....
so if we want them to interact with the real world the computer will have to be very fast... (it could remotely control a robot bio body?)

or do you just mean to store our virtual minds (so static is ok?)?

have you heard of Roses Law?
http://boingboing.net/2012/10/08/steve-jurvetson-on-roses-l.html

As you saw in other thread Google has a D-Wave quantum computer and there is a 1 billion pound brain project also. The time when this futuristic vision will become reality is coming closer.
But would you trust Google to host by them your mind ? They would search and index all of his content.
Your mind will be secure only in the blockchain where your mind will be encrypted and will run decentralized.


In 2020 the world computation capacity will achieve that of a human brain and in 2040 of all human brains.
http://imgur.com/a/oZaU0#0

But what about creating an own virtual country  for virtual minds ?
Namecoinia ?
or Lifecoinistan ?
Or United Blockchain States of Virtual Lifes ?
Which one would you choose ?

It can be a federation of 3 states:
- the state of the premium uploaded minds
- the state of the standard minds
- the state of the beta minds
Own rules will be also needed.

The Ten Virtual Commandments could be:
- I am the Namecoin chain who is hosting your mind.
- You should have no other blockchain before me.
- You should not make a forked image of the blockchain.
- Newer use the blockchain in vane.
- Remember the miners and give them fee.
- You shall not delete data from other virtual minds running thread.
- You shall not feed your blockchain neighbor with false data.
- You shall not steal memory or hash power from other virtual minds.
- You shall not desire your blockchain neighbors memory.
- You shall not desire your  blockchain neighbors hash power.

It will be constructed a Lifecoin (which will run on Namecoin) payment system and virtual minds will use it to receive coins for their work or to pay to increase the hosting time(and their life) in the blockchain or to increase their memory or hash power. Lifecoins would be double virtual. They would be virtual even for the virtual minds.

Luckily for you, Dank is on it.

If you want to sound "serious" or "scientific" or whatever stop posting wikipedia links ffs...

Why are you trying to connect bitcoins to the science of immortality and life exstension when there really is no correlation between the two. Besides who would maintain the network while everyone is living in the cloud.

We are not the only one who are putting this questions.
The Immortality Institute is also working on a similar topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=567XHO0-1qQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=30

http://www.longecity.org/forum/page/index.html


To register on their forum and make proposals you have to pay.
On the Namecoin Forum you can register free and you can make proposals how to implement a downgraded test version of Lifecoin(based on Namecoin).
http://dot-bit.org/forum/index.php?sid=dc3a477f644914f83472c381f28e70c0

Gotta admit it does look pretty cool

This is a philosophical topic. I would say it depends on the point of view and the implementation.
Your mind is in continuous change. You may think you are the same as you was 1 year ago but every atom of you was changed by your metabolism and your ideas, your brain content also changed.
So why are you the same person ? You may think that you are the same person because this change was continuous over the time and your mind and your body has been changed step by step.
It could be done the same with your uploaded brain. Your mind will be scanned and uploaded but not activated until your dead.
If you are feeling that your time is closer you put yourself in a machine which scans your brain and when specific brain regions are deactivated in the natural death process this function will be taken by your uploaded mind region and connected with your remaining active brain. So you will feel a continuous step by step continuation of your existence.
If others would see the same it is a different question.
You could even preserve your body by Cryonics with cryopreservation technique:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryonics

Later when the technique is advanced then your mind could be reimplanted to your resurrected body.
The cryopreservation may be can preserve your body but not your neural connections and your mind so it could be helpful if your have a backup of your mind in an uncensored future Namecoin blockchain.(storing your mind on a central server could be cheaper but could be also altered)
Of course living in a blockchain could be more expensive than only to staying there and waiting to be reimplanted in your future cured body.
After a virtual living the reimplanting in your former body or another biological body could be done also step by step so that you have the feeling that your life was continuous and not interrupted by a coma.

Uploading a scan of your mind is not living forever, it is simply making an immortal copy of yourself :L

This is a really good question. Famous philosophers since longer time addressed this question.
Stanislaw Lem's fictive heroes are philosophizing about this question in some of his novels.
Would be the backup of your mind be yourself or just another identity ?
Could you make a copy of yourself to make all the work for you ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberiad
Another book about this question would be:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mind%27s_I


This could be also a valid point of view.

Not sure I'd want my brain stored on a publicly accessible blockchain for 14 year old hackers to play around with in some weird simulated reality.

My mind and yours will corrupt the blockchain of the future

(not sure if someone posted this) - one of my favourite videos

Henery Markram

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS3wMC2BpxU

also by 2045 (assuming moore's law holds true) we will have enough computing power to simulate all the human minds on the planet..
of course moore's law probably won't hold true, but maybe quantum computers will still make this a possibility..

if you uploaded your mind into a computer, would you be a copy?
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Maybe we are just simulated now :

Nick Bostrom, Simulation Argument -- http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html

states either 1 of the following is true

1. Mankind Destroys itself before we create simulations of reality
2. Mankind won't create simulations of reality (i think we will, MMORPGs and the way computer gaming etc is advancing is all heading torwards realism/immersive-ness[how u spell?])
3. We are almost certainly in a simulation (1 in a billion that we are not)

Not only may we be in a simulation (Matrix?), we would probably be simulated ourselves..


Maybe we are in a block chain now
The bigbang was the Genesis Block...
Maybe our minds are like CPUs, processing the blocks by collapsing wave functions through observation
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Huntercoin / Chronokings could be the birth of decentralized Blockchain universes


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Also note, when the blockchain is forked (someone's comment) you will roll back to the correct chain and experience deja vu..