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legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000



I've got another win not paying out. Returning the same java error

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=d8938e2c23f81a4fdbd9f9c4ea0f2a3c4a7c52e076c2f0513459980720cab6ad


Is there something I am doing to cause this or what's the deal?

Anyway, thanks in advance.



sorry for you inconvenience.

the payout was  sent.  and the error will not be appeared.

https://blockchain.info/tx/6df6ef195457903b5a5e27d48da4b4216c59e660a8b63bbfab3d459d25ba3841

thank you.
member
Activity: 89
Merit: 10



I've got another win not paying out. Returning the same java error

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=d8938e2c23f81a4fdbd9f9c4ea0f2a3c4a7c52e076c2f0513459980720cab6ad


Is there something I am doing to cause this or what's the deal?

Anyway, thanks in advance.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
Up to 300% + 200 FS deposit bonuses
Hi? Everyone  ?
If  transaction fee  is below 0.0002, the transaction will not be bet.
It is to defence double spendig attack.
If  one of the transaction have 1 confirmation, we  will refund it.

Thank you.
your site have delay problem again, and this time I ask refund , 40 seconds delay is too big. and dont tell me this is double spend attack because it was confirmed after 2 minutes

https://blockchain.info/vi/tx/818598618a5a169834a22bd2aec711a252625b3c22445430292f90114f5f2330
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=818598618a5a169834a22bd2aec711a252625b3c22445430292f90114f5f2330


I had these huge 30 seconds delays happen also in the past, thats why I find it very risky to do anytype of 60-300 second scalps with this website. I don't think its the sites fault but the way it was relayed.
member
Activity: 60
Merit: 10
hi admin,you should made a small even of second member,because your site earn than 10btc after one night,lol....Smiley
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback.
I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade.
Today I got this PM from secondstrade:
but  at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because  the scam.
so payout  for the scam was not proceeded.
at the time, these two  amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited).
and these bitcoin were also  paid to the scammer.
so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer  or scammer themselves.

the reason that we thought such that.

1. the bitcoin above max amount  did not often deposited  .
2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours).
3. the requester were newbie. 
   ( i don't think the will be a newbie.  they have a ability that can select transaction id.
     the reason that they are newbie  is because they do not want to know who is.  )

but for you , we will consider refunding ..
you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that  you are partner of them.

please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss.
Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof.
My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players.
As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it.
rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too.
If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too.

thank you for your help. and very sorry that i doubted you.
but sp3edm's case is not a your case. he is newbie , and his bet is only one or use multiple addresses
and there is no any information .
if he bets first , 0.8 btc  is too big amount .
most people initially start small.
i still think that he may be partner of rabiow12.

i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or  more transactions

thank you.

Hello, secondstrade, please don't ignore message, i wrote clear situation.

I'm not rabiow12 (i don't know him...) and he is not in my case. (tautvilis was in my case).
It is normal i'm a new user here, i see your website on Google, the first transaction i made was 0.8BTC. after a while, the game was not completed.
You don't have contact page on your website but i found a link "Discuss on Bitcointalk.org".

Let's see transaction time and my registration on the forum... (It's same).
You are right, it was my first bet... i played before on binary trading and played big amont. It's a crime to play big bet ?
And i played later on your website until i see it was over limit...
I never played txdice... my first bet was on ODD EVEN x2.
The game was not played, right? so why you don't want to refund ? O.o

Please refund me, i will remove trust and will edit all negative about you.




the refund was completed  now. we can not any  other proof that you have relation whith rabiow12.
sorry for late refund and doubt .
refund transaction id is https://blockchain.info/tx/ada08d5f6659ccf29c357384da3fe3193d68166ef99bdecb54c9f5bb68fa0898

thank you.

THANKS YOU SECONDSTRADE Smiley
Have a nice day !
sr. member
Activity: 681
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sr. member
Activity: 536
Merit: 250
member
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Merit: 10
congratulations...!!!!
admin win about 10btc.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
also I won this bet https://blockchain.info/address/15LxxP83ccYzsFfj4MftEcccZr1wQpjmnX and while the transaction was still without confirmations it showed that the payment will be sent after one confirmation, but right now it shows some kind of an error http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=2d51d88b7cbe91476d851796d2ad33bde437c4fa35ef7306188560e2f84677c6 please fix and send the winnings, I play this all the time, but right now it started to have problems nonstop
sorry for late answer.  you will  receive payout soon.


P.S

the payout  was completed now. very sorry for your inconvenience.

https://blockchain.info/tx/0d0e0f7e1616611ed61b4e462342bf80900c87e7129ee361a66bdeec59a630d8

thank you.
confirming that I received it, left you positive trust even though I understand it doesn't mean too much

also these two bets also have never been played it just shows the same error unfortunately...
https://blockchain.info/tx/e99517fc9de49926aedc1773dd3550be334ae35e15f0ff5df25afe7e4e84507f
https://blockchain.info/tx/820cf3961e6bba5749bb4f83401cda08eb75bb617f1add1c70cc0dba49e2b9ef


how about these?
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback.
I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade.
Today I got this PM from secondstrade:
but  at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because  the scam.
so payout  for the scam was not proceeded.
at the time, these two  amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited).
and these bitcoin were also  paid to the scammer.
so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer  or scammer themselves.

the reason that we thought such that.

1. the bitcoin above max amount  did not often deposited  .
2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours).
3. the requester were newbie.  
   ( i don't think the will be a newbie.  they have a ability that can select transaction id.
     the reason that they are newbie  is because they do not want to know who is.  )

but for you , we will consider refunding ..
you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that  you are partner of them.

please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss.
Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof.
My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players.
As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it.
rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too.
If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too.

thank you for your help. and very sorry that i doubted you.
but sp3edm's case is not a your case. he is newbie , and his bet is only one or use multiple addresses
and there is no any information .
if he bets first , 0.8 btc  is too big amount .
most people initially start small.
i still think that he may be partner of rabiow12.

i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or  more transactions

thank you.

Hello, secondstrade, please don't ignore message, i wrote clear situation.

I'm not rabiow12 (i don't know him...) and he is not in my case. (tautvilis was in my case).
It is normal i'm a new user here, i see your website on Google, the first transaction i made was 0.8BTC. after a while, the game was not completed.
You don't have contact page on your website but i found a link "Discuss on Bitcointalk.org".

Let's see transaction time and my registration on the forum... (It's same).
You are right, it was my first bet... i played before on binary trading and played big amont. It's a crime to play big bet ?
And i played later on your website until i see it was over limit...
I never played txdice... my first bet was on ODD EVEN x2.
The game was not played, right? so why you don't want to refund ? O.o

Please refund me, i will remove trust and will edit all negative about you.




the refund was completed  now. we can not any  other proof that you have relation whith rabiow12.
sorry for late refund and doubt .
refund transaction id is https://blockchain.info/tx/ada08d5f6659ccf29c357384da3fe3193d68166ef99bdecb54c9f5bb68fa0898

thank you.
sr. member
Activity: 245
Merit: 250
its been an issue ever since, you can't let users kept asking for refunds. secondstrade should be fixing this problem.

They will not fix it, you know why? Asking refund here is a way to bump the thread, to scam more noobs, to scam more people, it is free traffic.
sr. member
Activity: 245
Merit: 250
Exactly. I am sufficiently certain that rabiow12 is one of the players who abused this vulnerability. and very likely a liar.
Any evidences to back-up your claims ? If he is one who abused the vulnerability,wouldn't he take the profits and disappear instead of demanding the coins which he genuinely lost ? If you scroll back a few pages,secondstrade says they lost about 9 bitcoins and they won't be refunding anybody.Doesn't make sense to me.It is basically their fault.And on-topic they haven't replied to rabiow's claims with any logical reasons.Calling him a scammer doesn't make him one.

Secondstrade is a scammer, very obvious, like you said, they don't want to pay 9 bitcoin.
sr. member
Activity: 1002
Merit: 250
Hi? Everyone  ?
If  transaction fee  is below 0.0002, the transaction will not be bet.
It is to defence double spendig attack.
If  one of the transaction have 1 confirmation, we  will refund it.

Thank you.
your site have delay problem again, and this time I ask refund , 40 seconds delay is too big. and dont tell me this is double spend attack because it was confirmed after 2 minutes

https://blockchain.info/vi/tx/818598618a5a169834a22bd2aec711a252625b3c22445430292f90114f5f2330
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=818598618a5a169834a22bd2aec711a252625b3c22445430292f90114f5f2330
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Hi? Everyone  ?
If  transaction fee  is below 0.0001, the transaction will not be bet.
It is to defence double spendig attack.
If  one of the transaction have 1 confirmation, we  will refund it.

Thank you.
member
Activity: 60
Merit: 10
please fix problem of delay showbet. it delay along time,not good.
Thanks.
hero member
Activity: 2800
Merit: 595
https://www.betcoin.ag
its been an issue ever since, you can't let users kept asking for refunds. secondstrade should be fixing this problem.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
also I won this bet https://blockchain.info/address/15LxxP83ccYzsFfj4MftEcccZr1wQpjmnX and while the transaction was still without confirmations it showed that the payment will be sent after one confirmation, but right now it shows some kind of an error http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=2d51d88b7cbe91476d851796d2ad33bde437c4fa35ef7306188560e2f84677c6 please fix and send the winnings, I play this all the time, but right now it started to have problems nonstop
sorry for late answer.  you will  receive payout soon.


P.S

the payout  was completed now. very sorry for your inconvenience.

https://blockchain.info/tx/0d0e0f7e1616611ed61b4e462342bf80900c87e7129ee361a66bdeec59a630d8

thank you.
confirming that I received it, left you positive trust even though I understand it doesn't mean too much

also these two bets also have never been played it just shows the same error unfortunately...
https://blockchain.info/tx/e99517fc9de49926aedc1773dd3550be334ae35e15f0ff5df25afe7e4e84507f
https://blockchain.info/tx/820cf3961e6bba5749bb4f83401cda08eb75bb617f1add1c70cc0dba49e2b9ef



we will check it. pleas wait some more.


not yet received my payout.please check
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=c48a85562eadfceb34c35b1712e08a36e54730654aa203f44844759b0b3906b3
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=747e0a4f8f28c2aa965f83e7ed15190564fb8ec211e279cf95db03ed66a394f2
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=c2b6b2cc94e28e2dd975e228bed91df35b9660ef52bae894719176479d67a42d
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=88ed38b3c736348ff2cae7a90d5fe93223674d370706f9d907a15e6aba81be2a

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