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Quote from: bitzizzix on June 05, 2023, 10:40:32 AM

That's right because we know the risks of gambling because we also feel the losses incurred will always be there in playing gambling. Emotions, obsession and also self-control are not spared by gambling players who always come to play even though they are experienced.
so I won't invite anyone to get involved even if the person is experienced, because I don't want to be blamed when the person feels uncomfortable or not used to using crypto. Unless they themselves come and want to know, and I can only explain as simply as possible according to existing knowledge, and that doesn't mean I recommend it.

Another question is whether the person or the gambler can accept all the risks? I do not think so.
people out there when they find out after we get a big win and ask to be given a way to gamble using crypto but they are only obsessed with your victory but when they get a loss they will get angry or worse chase the defeat and become an addict who ends up blaming you.
so that I myself also will not invite anyone to gamble in any type of crypto casino even though that person begs to tell me how to gamble using crypto.

I see no difference between crypto gambling and fiat gambling, looking at the OP's thought, the people to be introduced already gamble on different local sites. If such a person is introduced to crypto gambling they won't be a torn of disturbance when they lose out money. They're already used to the profit and loss associated with gambling. I won't hesitate to show a player the crypto casinos, it's just like a change of payment method. The problem makers are the newbies who are not experienced gamblers, I don't recommend teaching or introducing them into crypto gambling.

If people want to gamble that bad, it is also their own responsibility to look after themselves as they know what the repercussions are if they don't control themselves and do their research before getting the money out and stake it expecting for a better return. That's why I also don't want to introduce anyone to gambling, as it partly becomes my responsibility somewhat if something bad happens to their finances. I gamble discreetly due to a number of personal reasons, and one of them is that I don't want any other people who hasn't gambled before take interest in this money sink that I can afford.

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It is really hard to pull people into the Crypto because in my community 99% people don't know what is Cryptocurrency because they don't know about it. And 1% who know about Crypto 0.5% think that Crypto is a fraud and 0.5% knows and investing.
And you are telling about the loss of your friends so it is the reality that you can't double or triple your money in a single night. But those who have good luck they can become millionaire with in a night but 0.01% person achieve that goal. Otherwise loss is in front of you.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 06, 2023, 03:16:19 AM

The problem so far is that many gamblers cannot get lucky when playing gambling, causing them to experience defeat. And many of them are finally lured into using more money to try to win, even though it's not a good way for them. They are already tempted to continue playing gambling so they forget that gambling is just a game that should not be taken seriously.

Interestingly enough, not all gambler were able to understand this as a matter of fact, this ideology of repeated attempts till my luck comes will make no difference than continued losses, if a gambler is not careful, he will landed at a place where he couldn't find it convenient any longer for him to enjoy gambling because of his past experience while gambling, because gambling will always be tempting to them to play.

Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 06, 2023, 03:16:19 AM

Only good self-control can save them from losing a lot of money so they can still enjoy gambling and stop before they lose a lot of money. And very few gamblers can indeed do it, while others will only lose more.

They can actually develop a mean to exercise self-control in gambling especially for those having more difficulties in this aspect, cut the game and cut the lost, avoid over gambling by setting other targets to keep your day busy, withdrawal method from such gambling enabling environment is as well a good option.

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Many would argue that crypto trading and gambling is not same thing out together but even with that point of argument I would agree with OP that it's easier to deal with someone who's already a gambler on the premises of introducing them to cryptocurrency than just a normal dude out that doesn't have a clue on how to gamble with anything of value to him in order to make a profit. Gamblers already understand the brunt of losing and should they be introduced into crypto such one that brought them doesn't feel the fear of earning a blame of any kind as such.

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Quote from: Taskford on June 06, 2023, 06:12:38 AM

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Quote from: Outhue on May 22, 2023, 06:46:16 AM

How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.

some gamblers build their mind basically on what you tell them about a casino, the fail to carry out their own research or/and read on the TOC in the dashboards of those casino, so, I for one no longer give out valid information regarding any casino anymore, I just tell you the name and leave you to make your findings.

Most of the time this occur to new gamblers because mostly they are the one who do more research because they think that there's an easy way to gain more bigger profit by searching some strategies posted on internet. This is the reason why they are the one who's prone to lose more since they expect that it will work for them if they execute some strategies they learn from those influencers they watch.

Gambling needs education and it is obvious that many people do not understand the gambling all we can get from it. As a gambling whether consistent one of mere gamblers, we need to always defined our gambling activities and see if the method we are using to gamble would work for us or not. Gambling can be a very important aspect of our lives but we don't need to see it as a prerequisite to making money and a major factor for paying our bills.

If we don't take consciousness to the way we gamble, we might end up been a loser and keep losing in betting everytime because we lack the to understand the game and it necessity.

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Quote from: len01 on June 05, 2023, 11:18:28 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on June 05, 2023, 10:40:32 AM

That's right because we know the risks of gambling because we also feel the losses incurred will always be there in playing gambling. Emotions, obsession and also self-control are not spared by gambling players who always come to play even though they are experienced.
so I won't invite anyone to get involved even if the person is experienced, because I don't want to be blamed when the person feels uncomfortable or not used to using crypto. Unless they themselves come and want to know, and I can only explain as simply as possible according to existing knowledge, and that doesn't mean I recommend it.

Another question is whether the person or the gambler can accept all the risks? I do not think so.
people out there when they find out after we get a big win and ask to be given a way to gamble using crypto but they are only obsessed with your victory but when they get a loss they will get angry or worse chase the defeat and become an addict who ends up blaming you.
so that I myself also will not invite anyone to gamble in any type of crypto casino even though that person begs to tell me how to gamble using crypto.

I see no difference between crypto gambling and fiat gambling, looking at the OP's thought, the people to be introduced already gamble on different local sites. If such a person is introduced to crypto gambling they won't be a torn of disturbance when they lose out money. They're already used to the profit and loss associated with gambling. I won't hesitate to show a player the crypto casinos, it's just like a change of payment method. The problem makers are the newbies who are not experienced gamblers, I don't recommend teaching or introducing them into crypto gambling.

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Quote from: Outhue on May 22, 2023, 06:46:16 AM

How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.

some gamblers build their mind basically on what you tell them about a casino, the fail to carry out their own research or/and read on the TOC in the dashboards of those casino, so, I for one no longer give out valid information regarding any casino anymore, I just tell you the name and leave you to make your findings.

Most of the time this occur to new gamblers because mostly they are the one who do more research because they think that there's an easy way to gain more bigger profit by searching some strategies posted on internet. This is the reason why they are the one who's prone to lose more since they expect that it will work for them if they execute some strategies they learn from those influencers they watch.

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Quote from: Outhue on May 22, 2023, 06:46:16 AM

How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.

some gamblers build their mind basically on what you tell them about a casino, the fail to carry out their own research or/and read on the TOC in the dashboards of those casino, so, I for one no longer give out valid information regarding any casino anymore, I just tell you the name and leave you to make your findings.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 28, 2023, 08:38:44 AM

What you say is true. Loss is certain and we cannot avoid it. The more we play, the bigger our losses will be, which means our money will also run out more. And if the gambler aims to make money, they better realize it quickly because, in gambling, there isn't much to make money. We cannot chase victory because what exists is that we can lose a lot of money and that has happened to many people.

As long as we can control ourselves well, we won't experience too many losses and can also avoid the gambling addiction many people have experienced. Playing gambling is fun, but don't let that fun make you forget to stop.

If we can be lucky every time, then we can pursue victory and of course luck can guarantee victory.
It's just that luck can come at any time and anyone cannot bring good luck because luck comes unexpectedly.
It is very strange to hear about those who always expect big things from gambling without thinking about the risks and problems that can occur.

Yes, as long as we can control ourselves, bad things that happen in gambling can be easily avoided, but only 10% of all existing gamblers are able to control themselves overall.

The problem so far is that many gamblers cannot get lucky when playing gambling, causing them to experience defeat. And many of them are finally lured into using more money to try to win, even though it's not a good way for them. They are already tempted to continue playing gambling so they forget that gambling is just a game that should not be taken seriously.

Only good self-control can save them from losing a lot of money so they can still enjoy gambling and stop before they lose a lot of money. And very few gamblers can indeed do it, while others will only lose more.

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I've done it so many times but the problem is that the people that I invite is not interested on it but I am not disappointed. I am glad actually that I've been surrounded by good people who don't have a bad habit such as gambling. There is nothing wrong about your preference @OP if you like to bring gamblers more than the investors. Both activities have risks anyway and I am sure people are not dumb enough to not know it.

It still up to us if we will educate them further but id say it is a must so that they will have a confidence and they won't feel bad about their selves or to you. Since you are already there referring people to gamble, why won't you just use your own referral link on the gambling site you play? It should earn you great profits in case they became really active.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 05, 2023, 11:16:34 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 05, 2023, 10:45:43 AM

I agree with you, I never even wanted to invite anyone to gamble, be it using fiat or crypto. Because everyone's approach to gambling is different, as you said. At first they may come to have fun, but when they can't control themselves, they will become addicted. I never want to be blamed when a gambler goes bankrupt because I introduce them to gambling. I imagined if I were in their position when bankruptcy came.
We may be able to control ourselves, but there is no guarantee that others can be like us.

Yeah, this is not only limited for gambling too, but I always avoid to convince or link anything about financial with my friends because there are many cases where someone relationship ruined due to money. We shouldn't brought someone to something we're interested, but we just need to find a new friend on that environment. Let's say I have friend in a same company, just talk about work. If I have a friend from school, just talk things in school. Each friend has a different interest to discuss.

Yes it is, every environment has different hobbies and habits. Like me, for example, when hanging out with people who also understand cryptocurrencies, most of the chat will discuss cryptocurrencies. When I get together with people who like to travel or vacation, we will talk about our vacation destinations. When hanging out with friends who like to play games, then our time is up by playing games together, and so on.
I never force myself to make what is my hobby discussed in a different environment, yes, even though there are indeed moments where we share that experience.

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Quote from: len01 on June 05, 2023, 11:18:28 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on June 05, 2023, 10:40:32 AM

That's right because we know the risks of gambling because we also feel the losses incurred will always be there in playing gambling. Emotions, obsession and also self-control are not spared by gambling players who always come to play even though they are experienced.
so I won't invite anyone to get involved even if the person is experienced, because I don't want to be blamed when the person feels uncomfortable or not used to using crypto. Unless they themselves come and want to know, and I can only explain as simply as possible according to existing knowledge, and that doesn't mean I recommend it.

Another question is whether the person or the gambler can accept all the risks? I do not think so.
people out there when they find out after we get a big win and ask to be given a way to gamble using crypto but they are only obsessed with your victory but when they get a loss they will get angry or worse chase the defeat and become an addict who ends up blaming you.
so that I myself also will not invite anyone to gamble in any type of crypto casino even though that person begs to tell me how to gamble using crypto.

After all, it wouldn't give any advantage to get someone to start gambling and risk their money just for the luck they haven't been able to get. Gambling or not is an individual choice. If they get too obsessed it will have a bad impact when they lose. Everyone really won't accept their defeat and blames more on someone who asked him to get involved in gambling. gamblers like that cannot understand the game and the risks that will occur.

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Quote from: len01 on June 05, 2023, 11:18:28 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on June 05, 2023, 10:40:32 AM

That's right because we know the risks of gambling because we also feel the losses incurred will always be there in playing gambling. Emotions, obsession and also self-control are not spared by gambling players who always come to play even though they are experienced.
so I won't invite anyone to get involved even if the person is experienced, because I don't want to be blamed when the person feels uncomfortable or not used to using crypto. Unless they themselves come and want to know, and I can only explain as simply as possible according to existing knowledge, and that doesn't mean I recommend it.

Why is it difficult for someone to stay away from gambling? the answer is, most people are greedy and greedy, they are always chasing after something they have lost. Even though on the other hand they are aware that this is a gamble where they will win when luck approaches them. But the problem is that they always have the assumption that they can be one of the lucky ones among other people, without realizing that they have lost everything. Most gamblers always have a feeling of addiction when they win, because they feel it is very easy and curious when they lose. Basically, it is difficult to stop gambling addiction, including me. there is always a high curiosity at certain times and victory always comes to mind.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on June 05, 2023, 10:40:32 AM

That's right because we know the risks of gambling because we also feel the losses incurred will always be there in playing gambling. Emotions, obsession and also self-control are not spared by gambling players who always come to play even though they are experienced.
so I won't invite anyone to get involved even if the person is experienced, because I don't want to be blamed when the person feels uncomfortable or not used to using crypto. Unless they themselves come and want to know, and I can only explain as simply as possible according to existing knowledge, and that doesn't mean I recommend it.

Another question is whether the person or the gambler can accept all the risks? I do not think so.
people out there when they find out after we get a big win and ask to be given a way to gamble using crypto but they are only obsessed with your victory but when they get a loss they will get angry or worse chase the defeat and become an addict who ends up blaming you.
so that I myself also will not invite anyone to gamble in any type of crypto casino even though that person begs to tell me how to gamble using crypto.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 05, 2023, 10:45:43 AM

I agree with you, I never even wanted to invite anyone to gamble, be it using fiat or crypto. Because everyone's approach to gambling is different, as you said. At first they may come to have fun, but when they can't control themselves, they will become addicted. I never want to be blamed when a gambler goes bankrupt because I introduce them to gambling. I imagined if I were in their position when bankruptcy came.
We may be able to control ourselves, but there is no guarantee that others can be like us.

Yeah, this is not only limited for gambling too, but I always avoid to convince or link anything about financial with my friends because there are many cases where someone relationship ruined due to money. We shouldn't brought someone to something we're interested, but we just need to find a new friend on that environment. Let's say I have friend in a same company, just talk about work. If I have a friend from school, just talk things in school. Each friend has a different interest to discuss.

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Quote from: hyudien on June 05, 2023, 10:25:29 AM

Quote from: Outhue on May 22, 2023, 06:46:16 AM

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

For me personally gambling is a private matter, so I have no intention of inviting anyone to bet and therefore until now I still enjoy gambling with the risks that I have agreed to. The reason is because gambling can keep you entertained and can also make you addicted, so in this case why I prefer not to invite anyone. Control of my emotions will be different from the control of other people. I am afraid that when I invite someone to gamble but cannot control their emotions and it will have an impact on addiction, the result of anything can destroy their life. So in my opinion, if you can't be responsible for the repercussions, then never get someone to join you in gambling. It doesn't matter whether he is an investor or a status-obsessed rich man.

I agree with you, I never even wanted to invite anyone to gamble, be it using fiat or crypto. Because everyone's approach to gambling is different, as you said. At first they may come to have fun, but when they can't control themselves, they will become addicted. I never want to be blamed when a gambler goes bankrupt because I introduce them to gambling. I imagined if I were in their position when bankruptcy came.
We may be able to control ourselves, but there is no guarantee that others can be like us.

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Quote from: hyudien on June 05, 2023, 10:25:29 AM

Quote from: Outhue on May 22, 2023, 06:46:16 AM

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

For me personally gambling is a private matter, so I have no intention of inviting anyone to bet and therefore until now I still enjoy gambling with the risks that I have agreed to. The reason is because gambling can keep you entertained and can also make you addicted, so in this case why I prefer not to invite anyone. Control of my emotions will be different from the control of other people. I am afraid that when I invite someone to gamble but cannot control their emotions and it will have an impact on addiction, the result of anything can destroy their life. So in my opinion, if you can't be responsible for the repercussions, then never get someone to join you in gambling. It doesn't matter whether he is an investor or a status-obsessed rich man.

That's right because we know the risks of gambling because we also feel the losses incurred will always be there in playing gambling. Emotions, obsession and also self-control are not spared by gambling players who always come to play even though they are experienced.
so I won't invite anyone to get involved even if the person is experienced, because I don't want to be blamed when the person feels uncomfortable or not used to using crypto. Unless they themselves come and want to know, and I can only explain as simply as possible according to existing knowledge, and that doesn't mean I recommend it.

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I can't help but agree with the op, I can comfortably introduce or bring someone into gambling than introduce or bring somebody into investing in crypto, can't explain why though, but I guess it simply boils down to as op have said, that a gambler already understand the game, already know that there are risks involved in gambling, they know they can loose or a win, and every time they loose, they know well not to blame their mentor but their luck..

But for crypto investors, they just believe is all about making money without risk, which is why when a coin they bought goes down in price, they start panicking, possibly calling on their mentor to explain whats happening, and that really annoys me to be sincere.

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Quote from: Outhue on May 22, 2023, 06:46:16 AM

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

For me personally gambling is a private matter, so I have no intention of inviting anyone to bet and therefore until now I still enjoy gambling with the risks that I have agreed to. The reason is because gambling can keep you entertained and can also make you addicted, so in this case why I prefer not to invite anyone. Control of my emotions will be different from the control of other people. I am afraid that when I invite someone to gamble but cannot control their emotions and it will have an impact on addiction, the result of anything can destroy their life. So in my opinion, if you can't be responsible for the repercussions, then never get someone to join you in gambling. It doesn't matter whether he is an investor or a status-obsessed rich man.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on June 05, 2023, 08:04:00 AM

Only the sports betting needs experience but playing in casinos are open for all even for the newbies. I also think that the odds in casino games are much better than any other sports betting game. I mean their max multipliers are much higher.

I hold the opposite belief. When we consider popular casino games, most of them have a house edge, and some even have a high house edge, which only provides gamblers with a slim chance of winning. However, many of us may not notice this as we visit casinos primarily for enjoyment, and some of us are overly optimistic without understanding our true chances of winning.

Now, let's discuss sports betting. I believe it's a form of gambling that offers a higher percentage of winning compared to casino games with their significant house edges. In sports betting, as long as you study and understand the game, and possess the ability to analyze and find value, long-term success becomes possible. I have heard about individuals who make a living through sports betting, and I believe it to be true. However, when it comes to casinos, apart from the owners, I haven't heard of people making a living from luck-based games. It's important to note that when I mention casinos, I am referring to games primarily based on luck.

Sports betting offers higher percentage of winning if and only if you know very well the sports you are betting with.
The more you know about the sports, the team, the athletes, the rules and all the other aspects that come with it, you have better chance of winning.
However, it doesn't guarantee your winning as there are other factors such as weather, line up of athletes, coach and others that may influence the final results of the game.
But compared to luck-based games, I can say, you have better chance of winning if you live and breath a particular sports that you are betting with.
This is why, there are really sportsbettors that can live off with this activity, which is already a profession to them.
But if you have other means to generate stable income other than betting, then, keep it. Much better to have a steady source of income rather than playing with your luck all the time.

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