Gambling Affiliates: Carryover of Negative Revenue Share Profit - page 3.

tyz

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I think I should make things more precise

The case I described in the first post concerns Sportsbet.io affiliate. At Sportsbet you only earn if a referred user loses a bet. If a user wins a bet you get negative affiliate balance. The idea behind this is that more users usually lose than win, so the affiliate partner makes a gain in the long run anyway. Now in this case a user made big profits with two bets (> 1 Bitcoin) over a year ago. Since then my affiliate balance has been negative. The negative balance has declined a little over the last months but there is still a huge negative balance which is carried over from month to month.

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Shuffle.com

Ultra is right, I also think tyz is specifically talking about the gambling affiliate or referrals rather than the casino bankroll because there are different ways to distribute gambling affiliate profits for example it could be based on the total wager of the referred user or sometimes the overall profit. Having a negative profit is one possible scenario if the affiliate system is focused on the profit rather than the wagered amount.

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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Quote from: Lakai01 on June 22, 2020, 05:42:10 AM

I think tyz is talking about sites like Bustadice.com where you can invest in the casinos bankroll, here is a short description:

That may be the case however it would be a gross mistake to call that as affiliate profit. As far as my knowledge is, affiliate marketing is for referral commission and casino bankroll investment is a different thing. But sensibly that can be the only case where negative numbers are possible.

If this is the case, my suggestion would be to move on to cryptogames or yolodice. Considering their revenue income in the long term basis, I have seen that it does not stay negative for too long there, havent used busta so I cant comment on that. The long term value is always positive for the casino and its investors so it is good for the long term but definitely not good is still in the negative numbers

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 22, 2020, 12:46:20 AM

Can you explain what you mean by negative carryover? Is it like the casino's loss incurred due to a high roller that ends up on your plate because you were the member who referred them in the first place?

I think tyz is talking about sites like Bustadice.com where you can invest in the casinos bankroll, here is a short description:

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Be the bankroll

Looking to grow your Bitcoins slowly rather than for a thrill? Invest in the bankroll and participate in the casino's profits.

invest and divest whenever you want competitive commission of 50 % on profits receive compensation when the bankroll is diluted proper risk management limited by the Kelly criterion

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So you sort of participate in the profits of the casino and you therefore lend them your BTC. If the casino makes a profit, you get a part of it. If the casino makes losses through, for example because of whales that make big profits, this also affects those who are invested in the bankroll. But as I said, it's just a guess...

TheUltraElite

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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Can you explain what you mean by negative carryover? Is it like the casino's loss incurred due to a high roller that ends up on your plate because you were the member who referred them in the first place?

I havent seen anything like that in any of the casinos that I run affiliate campaigns on namely Primedice, Stake, cryptogames, freebitco.in. Which site are we talking about though?

But in general, all the casinos give you the referral commission from the "wager" and not the casino's profit. So even if the casino loses or the player loses, you still get your x% of the amount wagered.

tyz

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I would like to read your experiences with negative carryover from gambling affiliate earnings. Especially with betting sites.

In the past few years I have had small amounts of negative carryover on various gambling sites from time to time. Those carryovers were usually equalized after 1-2 months at the latest, so that I had a positive balance again. Some sites even limit the time you take the negative carryover with you before it is set to zero.

In a current case with a betting site I have a large negative carryover due to a successful user that has been carried over for more than a year now, which means that it will probably take a very long time until I have affiliate income again on the site, although many referrals are active, but their losses do not compensate the high profits which were made by one referral.

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