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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 07, 2020, 10:01:22 PM

It is easier said than done. I cannot say that we can totally excuse and keep gambling away because addiction does not come to a person out of nowhere.

True but we can always try to be safe and not addicted in gambling, we are the only one will manage ourselves, we can't blame others but ourselves if we make mistakes.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 07, 2020, 10:01:22 PM

It is the gambling itself that made the person addicted.

No, it is his gambling style that makes him addicted, blaming gambling generally is just like not accepting your mistakes, blame yourself first.
That's being responsible and able to accept your mistake/s.

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Quote from: Natsuu on May 07, 2020, 02:14:29 PM

Gambling actually ain't the problem here. Gambling is just a game where people get used to it. The real problem is the attitude of a person who is playing.

It is true. We cannot blame gambling games once we get addicted, there is no problem with those games. The problem is in ourselves, how we play & how we manage time + funds for gambling. The point is on those things, so if we can play normally, means know to limit time & funds during playing the games (no playing excessively), then everything will be okay. In addition, control your emotions and expectation, realize that don't hope too much to be rich by gambling.

It is easier said than done. I cannot say that we can totally excuse and keep gambling away because addiction does not come to a person out of nowhere. It is the gambling itself that made the person addicted.

As the saying goes, it takes two to tango. We cannot say leave the dope alone, it is the person who should try to control himself, right? You cannot say you can't partly blame that thing which caused the addiction itself in the first place.

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Quote from: narcopop on May 04, 2020, 07:45:49 AM

Great article showing the real problems of gambling but I don't think that the industry itself is all to blame. People are grown-ups, they have to take full responsibility for their behaviors. When someone has addiction issues, he has to figure out the way to handle with these issues. No one said life's gonna be easy.

All of us have its own demons to fight with. No matter if caused by gambling, alcohol, drugs, shopping, eating or anything else. Finding the median is the key.

That's the reason why gambling sites will ask you if you are 18+ above before you can proceed to gamble because they want to ensure that you are at the right age and you are already mature which you can make your own decision to and to stay responsible when gambling.

They are just asking, not verifying, so there would be no total standard that is being set by this platform, well it's pretty hard task to do for them to verify so it does not bother us anyways. Gambling is kind of like a vice, and when it is a vice you need to take a full responsibility of it, like a cigarette you can't get one if you don't have money to buy right? and it affects your body negatively. I hope most of us here is just gambling for the sake of entertainment, well of course to make money.

Because there is no way they can verify, but at least they ask and you agree so gambler if ever they lose because they feel they are not matured enough to make good decision while gambling, so they can't blame the gambling site for that as in the first place, they lied that they are 18+.

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Quote from: Natsuu on May 07, 2020, 02:14:29 PM

Gambling actually ain't the problem here. Gambling is just a game where people get used to it. The real problem is the attitude of a person who is playing.

It is true. We cannot blame gambling games once we get addicted, there is no problem with those games. The problem is in ourselves, how we play & how we manage time + funds for gambling. The point is on those things, so if we can play normally, means know to limit time & funds during playing the games (no playing excessively), then everything will be okay. In addition, control your emotions and expectation, realize that don't hope too much to be rich by gambling.

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Quote from: narcopop on May 04, 2020, 07:45:49 AM

Great article showing the real problems of gambling but I don't think that the industry itself is all to blame. People are grown-ups, they have to take full responsibility for their behaviors. When someone has addiction issues, he has to figure out the way to handle with these issues. No one said life's gonna be easy.

All of us have its own demons to fight with. No matter if caused by gambling, alcohol, drugs, shopping, eating or anything else. Finding the median is the key.

Gambling actually ain't the problem here. Gambling is just a game where people get used to it. The real problem is the attitude of a person who is playing. Look, when the person recently started playing, he will always watched out for the game. He will be more careful because of course, he still learning on how if is working. But of course, as soon as the person won or even lose he will always play and play until he had nothing left. The reason why most of the gamblers experience this is because of the addiction.

Addiction is one of the main problems of the gamblers. Because of the habit they used to it and always come back. Addiction comes witj certain negative effect mostly in gambkers health. One main effect is lack of sleep when they always play and play until they get too much tired and also when they always seek for earnings and losses. And also the lack of nutrients in body cause by delayed eating of food, sleep deprivation and addiction. The most common symptoms are only addiction.

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Quote from: bittraffic on May 04, 2020, 10:04:24 AM

~ Old habits die hard and some of the gamblers had the drug habit back in the college days perhaps. I myself are comfortable smoking weed, it makes me relax but I can't do it these days because I'm a grown man and I am living with a girl these days. But given the opportunity to smoke again I will still grab my pipe.

My point is that gamblers who developed alcohol addiction had been with alcohol before they got into gambling. The old habits are back when that happens.

Actually there is a way of "fixing" those damaged brains, either with medications(although for some people they are not that effective) or with some kind of cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT). Recent studies show that even self-directed CBT can be very effective. Anyways, it's not alcohol, drugs or gambling to blame. Rather it's about how your brain is wired. If you are prone to developing an addiction, you'll develop one sooner or later. But the good news is that it can be fixed, you just need to be willing to do it.

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Quote from: narcopop on May 04, 2020, 07:45:49 AM

Great article showing the real problems of gambling but I don't think that the industry itself is all to blame. People are grown-ups, they have to take full responsibility for their behaviors. When someone has addiction issues, he has to figure out the way to handle with these issues. No one said life's gonna be easy.

All of us have its own demons to fight with. No matter if caused by gambling, alcohol, drugs, shopping, eating or anything else. Finding the median is the key.

I definitely agree with this. It's not about the environment or whatsoever, it's about fighting yourself with the urge to do something you know that can harm us. We are old enough to know the consequences of our actions, and it's up to us if we will keep doing it and if we can handle possible consequences.

We are free to choose if we're going to gamble, drink alcohol, or even do drugs, and it's also our fault and responsibility if it will affect us negatively. So it's really not about the medium we are using, it's our own self-control.

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Quote from: BTCLiz on April 27, 2020, 05:14:08 PM

This paper https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.publhealth.23.100901.140532
takes a look at mental health and gambling.

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This article reviews the prevalence of gambling and related mental disorders from a public health perspective. It traces the expansion of gambling in North America and the psychological, economic, and social consequences for the public's health, and then considers both the costs and benefits of gambling and the history of gambling prevalence research. A public health approach is applied to understanding the epidemiology of gambling-related problems. International prevalence rates are provided and the prevalence of mental disorders that often are comorbid with gambling problems is reviewed. Analysis includes an examination of groups vulnerable to gambling-related disorders and the methodological and conceptual matters that might influence epidemiological research and prevalence rates related to gambling. The major public health problems associated with gambling are considered and recommendations made for public health policy, practice, and research.

One of the main questions is if People with mental disorder like to gamble or if People with gambling Problems deal more often with mental illness as a result of e.g. stress.

I don't think that is the question. The problem is that gambling might lead to addiction, similar like alcohol or drugs and that creates real problem. Gambling addiction is the medical issue just like any other addiction.
I agree that stress is one of the key issues of modern men and people deal with it on different ways, but some of these ways may lead to even bigger problems, especialy if people have problems with selfcontrol.

This is a very complicated question. If some problem gamblers abuse drugs and alcohol it doesn't mean they developed these harmful habits because of gambling. The so called "gambling-related disorders" are not necessarily caused by gambling. People could have mental issues before they started gambling, and if there were no gambling at all, they would start aggressive stock trading or something even more risky because their brain is wired that way.

Old habits die hard and some of the gamblers had the drug habit back in the college days perhaps. I myself are comfortable smoking weed, it makes me relax but I can't do it these days because I'm a grown man and I am living with a girl these days. But given the opportunity to smoke again I will still grab my pipe.

My point is that gamblers who developed alcohol addiction had been with alcohol before they got into gambling. The old habits are back when that happens.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 04, 2020, 08:57:56 AM

Quote from: narcopop on May 04, 2020, 07:45:49 AM

Great article showing the real problems of gambling but I don't think that the industry itself is all to blame. People are grown-ups, they have to take full responsibility for their behaviors. When someone has addiction issues, he has to figure out the way to handle with these issues. No one said life's gonna be easy.

All of us have its own demons to fight with. No matter if caused by gambling, alcohol, drugs, shopping, eating or anything else. Finding the median is the key.

That's the reason why gambling sites will ask you if you are 18+ above before you can proceed to gamble because they want to ensure that you are at the right age and you are already mature which you can make your own decision to and to stay responsible when gambling.

They are just asking, not verifying, so there would be no total standard that is being set by this platform, well it's pretty hard task to do for them to verify so it does not bother us anyways. Gambling is kind of like a vice, and when it is a vice you need to take a full responsibility of it, like a cigarette you can't get one if you don't have money to buy right? and it affects your body negatively. I hope most of us here is just gambling for the sake of entertainment, well of course to make money.

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Quote from: narcopop on May 04, 2020, 07:45:49 AM

Great article showing the real problems of gambling but I don't think that the industry itself is all to blame. People are grown-ups, they have to take full responsibility for their behaviors. When someone has addiction issues, he has to figure out the way to handle with these issues. No one said life's gonna be easy.

All of us have its own demons to fight with. No matter if caused by gambling, alcohol, drugs, shopping, eating or anything else. Finding the median is the key.

That's the reason why gambling sites will ask you if you are 18+ above before you can proceed to gamble because they want to ensure that you are at the right age and you are already mature which you can make your own decision to and to stay responsible when gambling.

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Great article showing the real problems of gambling but I don't think that the industry itself is all to blame. People are grown-ups, they have to take full responsibility for their behaviors. When someone has addiction issues, he has to figure out the way to handle with these issues. No one said life's gonna be easy.

All of us have its own demons to fight with. No matter if caused by gambling, alcohol, drugs, shopping, eating or anything else. Finding the median is the key.

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Quote from: BTCLiz on April 27, 2020, 05:14:08 PM

This paper https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.publhealth.23.100901.140532
takes a look at mental health and gambling.

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This article reviews the prevalence of gambling and related mental disorders from a public health perspective. It traces the expansion of gambling in North America and the psychological, economic, and social consequences for the public's health, and then considers both the costs and benefits of gambling and the history of gambling prevalence research. A public health approach is applied to understanding the epidemiology of gambling-related problems. International prevalence rates are provided and the prevalence of mental disorders that often are comorbid with gambling problems is reviewed. Analysis includes an examination of groups vulnerable to gambling-related disorders and the methodological and conceptual matters that might influence epidemiological research and prevalence rates related to gambling. The major public health problems associated with gambling are considered and recommendations made for public health policy, practice, and research.

One of the main questions is if People with mental disorder like to gamble or if People with gambling Problems deal more often with mental illness as a result of e.g. stress.

I don't think that is the question. The problem is that gambling might lead to addiction, similar like alcohol or drugs and that creates real problem. Gambling addiction is the medical issue just like any other addiction.
I agree that stress is one of the key issues of modern men and people deal with it on different ways, but some of these ways may lead to even bigger problems, especialy if people have problems with selfcontrol.

This is a very complicated question. If some problem gamblers abuse drugs and alcohol it doesn't mean they developed these harmful habits because of gambling. The so called "gambling-related disorders" are not necessarily caused by gambling. People could have mental issues before they started gambling, and if there were no gambling at all, they would start aggressive stock trading or something even more risky because their brain is wired that way.

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Quote from: Supianto on May 02, 2020, 08:46:02 AM

all those habits go in one bunch... also don't forget smoking... however crypto makes them less harmful

Crypto won't them make less harmful, harm is harm and it will never change how it will affect us. I guess it should be like this.
'But being with crypto, those habits can be changed if their time will be dedicated to cryptocurrencies and willing to leave those bad habits.'

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Going back, gambling and health has been a broad issue even before, but the main thing I could think of as a solution is proper control of time, funds, and emotion that we are giving off when gambling.

There no one is safe when they are gambling using their emotion as they will eventually make wrong and costly decision in the long run.
When a gambler is so emotional, that would lead him to gamble more as he cannot easily accept the loses, in fact he will gamble more to win back without knowing that he is putting himself on a higher risk.

True because it is already the emotion that controls them. This case is very hard to overcome. There has to be something big happen to will awakes them. Advises will not be acceptable. Winnings will make them very proud and loses will make them angry and cause a bad temper. Depression to gambling.

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Quote from: BTCLiz on April 27, 2020, 05:14:08 PM

This paper https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.publhealth.23.100901.140532
takes a look at mental health and gambling.

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This article reviews the prevalence of gambling and related mental disorders from a public health perspective. It traces the expansion of gambling in North America and the psychological, economic, and social consequences for the public's health, and then considers both the costs and benefits of gambling and the history of gambling prevalence research. A public health approach is applied to understanding the epidemiology of gambling-related problems. International prevalence rates are provided and the prevalence of mental disorders that often are comorbid with gambling problems is reviewed. Analysis includes an examination of groups vulnerable to gambling-related disorders and the methodological and conceptual matters that might influence epidemiological research and prevalence rates related to gambling. The major public health problems associated with gambling are considered and recommendations made for public health policy, practice, and research.

One of the main questions is if People with mental disorder like to gamble or if People with gambling Problems deal more often with mental illness as a result of e.g. stress.

I don't think that is the question. The problem is that gambling might lead to addiction, similar like alcohol or drugs and that creates real problem. Gambling addiction is the medical issue just like any other addiction.
I agree that stress is one of the key issues of modern men and people deal with it on different ways, but some of these ways may lead to even bigger problems, especialy if people have problems with selfcontrol.

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all those habits go in one bunch... also don't forget smoking... however crypto makes them less harmful

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You are right people can get aggressive if they lose in gaming and if they will start drinking alchohal it will be fully bad for them not only mentally but physically alcohol is ingerious to health so better keep calm and not let gambling affect you emotionally better if you stay calm and gamble with small amount of money that you can afford to lose but gamble in limitted time and with limited amount of money.

It's drinking alcohol is what makes them aggressive, not the fact that they are losing(that's a different story). It's much harder for people to control themselves being under influence of alcohol, even if they are able of doing it otherwise.

The influence of alcohol is certainly very heavy because the more you drink, the more aggressive you cannot control in any case, including gambling, but the stubborn one is always accompanied by alcohol to play gambling because it has become a habit but that I feel is not the best thing but it becomes worse when playing gambling because their control will be lost to lose a lot of money in gambling they play.

I don't think if playing gambling with alcohol will make it calmer.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 25, 2020, 06:57:54 AM

~I don't think that drinking alcohol can be a good solution to any problem, let alone gambling. Usually people become more aggressive after a drink or two, and while their resentment about being unlucky in a relationship, for example, can result in breaking a plate or sending an angry message, it can end up really badly if this is about gambling.

You are right people can get aggressive if they lose in gaming and if they will start drinking alchohal it will be fully bad for them not only mentally but physically alcohol is ingerious to health so better keep calm and not let gambling affect you emotionally better if you stay calm and gamble with small amount of money that you can afford to lose but gamble in limitted time and with limited amount of money.

It's drinking alcohol is what makes them aggressive, not the fact that they are losing(that's a different story). It's much harder for people to control themselves being under influence of alcohol, even if they are able of doing it otherwise.

Quote from: South Park on April 27, 2020, 04:43:56 PM

~ Which is why at physical casinos if they see that you are gambling an important amount of money then drinks are free for you, it is well known that alcohol diminishes your inhibitions and your ability to think critically and when it comes to gambling this is very important since whether you are a professional gambler or just someone that likes to gamble to get some fun you are going to need to know when to stop and this is going to be almost impossible to do if you are under the influence of alcohol.

Yep, that's what they are doing in most land-based casinos. That's why I say gambling online is safer for your health and for your budget.

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This paper https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.publhealth.23.100901.140532
takes a look at mental health and gambling.

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This article reviews the prevalence of gambling and related mental disorders from a public health perspective. It traces the expansion of gambling in North America and the psychological, economic, and social consequences for the public's health, and then considers both the costs and benefits of gambling and the history of gambling prevalence research. A public health approach is applied to understanding the epidemiology of gambling-related problems. International prevalence rates are provided and the prevalence of mental disorders that often are comorbid with gambling problems is reviewed. Analysis includes an examination of groups vulnerable to gambling-related disorders and the methodological and conceptual matters that might influence epidemiological research and prevalence rates related to gambling. The major public health problems associated with gambling are considered and recommendations made for public health policy, practice, and research.

One of the main questions is if People with mental disorder like to gamble or if People with gambling Problems deal more often with mental illness as a result of e.g. stress.

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