Topic: Gambling Campaigns - page 2. (Read 705 times)

First, OP is very right, you established a fact which I observed recently. Many things must have caused it but one major thing I believe is the reason is;
Gambling, casinos etc are making real time use of cryptocurrencies. When you visit any gambling site, you will discover they accept payments in more than 10 cryptocurrencies. This cannot be said of other companies who might not be so intimate with crypto.
Again, the promoters of the campaign are also patronising the business. Some gamblers use btc paid them in the campaign to re-invest in the casino site by betting. The circle is flowing and it will last the more.
Crypto meeting casino is a fortunate thing that happened to gambling.

I honestly have thought about this on several occasions, I can't say for sure it's true reason, but my guess is, it's because advertising in the service section is only for bitcoin paying companies, if companies were allowed to launch their campaign in the service section and pay their campaign participants in whatever coin they please, you will see that the service section will be flooded with different kinds of campaigns.
But because crypto companies that are just starting will prefer to pay their campaign participants in their own Altcoin, they can not list their campaign in the service section since this section is reserved for companies paying in bitcoin only, and we all know that gambling casinos make alot of bitcoin from customers, so paying their campaign participants in bitcoin isn't an issue for them.

Not sure, I thought there's been quite a lot of gambling related signature campaigns over the years, but there's been others mixed in too. Although, I guess you could say there should be more when compared to other services, because signature campaigns definitely work, and who has a lot of disposable income? Probably gambling sites. I've been contacted quite a few times by users asking about my currently worn signature. Actually quite frequent too I find. So, it definitely works even if it's not direct clicks through an referral link, it most certainly does stick in certain user minds. The only exceptions would be those that have added them to an ad block filter or disabled signatures, which I can't imagine many users do.

One could argue that merely being invested in Bitcoin, regardless of your outlook or reason for being involved, is in fact gambling. Since, I assume most of us are counting on it going up in the long term at the very least. So, yeah we are all banking on either making a lot of money through Bitcoin or banking on Bitcoin replacing our current fiat system, both can be seen as a gamble even if not in the traditional sense.

I was active on the sub-board a sometimes ago, but I discovered that I lost more than I gained, so I quit wasting my time. However, whether or not that sub-board is active proves nothing. Imo

So you think that those who are active in Games and round contests and competitions are somehow smearing their post history? That's a weird statement, to say the least. I understand someone simply not wanting to participate in those things, but that reason not really.

Look at it in this way:
You need money to finance a signature campaigns. Who is more likely to be willing to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars weekly? A business like a casino that generates a lot of profit every hour of the day, or a developer who has just created a new free service that doesn't earn him any income and he has to spend his own money to pay promoters? We all know the answer.

Even ChipMixer and BestChange earn money. CM through donations and the users who use their services and BestChange through fees.   

I have to disagree with you on the bolded part of your last sentence, using myself as an example; I'm an active gambler who rarely participates in Games and Round sub-baord free competitions; not everyone wants to smear his posts history with some shite games and round worthless predictions contests, and I believe that's one of the reasons most users don't frequent that board except spammers looking for cheap cents.

While I do think that Sportbets.io sig participants are genuine gambling board posters, I seriously doubt that majority of members in other campaigns are actively using their services. Not just that, I think that many don't even watch the sports that they are talking about and its not that hard to notice that if you know the subject well. The thing is, only the best paid campaigns can attract natural posters and that's why others have to set the gambling board post quota. If there is an abundance of gamblers here that wouldn't be the case. As an example of what I am talking about, you can take a look at Games and rounds child board and the lack of interest in competitions where participants actually have to bet/gamble using their own money.

Then again, gambling signature campaigns obviously work one way or another because companies wouldn't waste their money for years.

BitcoinTalk.org probably has the largest gambling-related subboard in the world, with thousands of active members and thousands of posts every month. I know, it's a chicken-and-egg thing and some would argue that this is due to the signature campaigns, but I believe the gambling board existed and was active even before bitcoin campaigns became a thing. Nonetheless, the concept has been a huge success and the community has adopted many of the platforms, who bring a fair, fun and entertaining environment that bitcoin gambling can provide.

In my opinion, cryptocurrencies have brought some tremendous value to the online gambling industry. Not just because gambling has become a more mainstream thing, but also because online gambling is a much cheaper form of gambling business than offline, land-based casinos. And not only is it cheaper, but the people can gamble anytime and anywhere. In addition, Bitcoin allows you to spend the money at many more places than it would be possible for people to do so in real world. To some degree, I believe this has changed the landscape of the online gambling industry and even affected some of the physical casinos. Many physical casinos are also trying to take advantage of this trend.

In the case of CM, it maintains because it is the Coca-Cola of our niche, so it is already a matter of trust and permanent positioning, keeping the brand in the consumer's mind is essential.

There is a premise that says "it is not how much you invest, but where you advertise what makes a campaign effective" CM is in the place where "perhaps" it makes the best return on its investment, other type ad campaign would not be as effective as it is in the forum.

In the case of exchanges, I think it is an issue of recruitment, user traffic, let's say that unlike the previous product, exchanges have greater demand but users tend to make more constants/traffic over time. In the case of BC, it basically offers a third-party service, it is not really an exchange as such and perhaps that allows it to manage a constant and long-lasting advertising budget in the forum.

The sporadic campaigns: surely the others who have passed through here handle limited and diversified budget items in others areas where they can advertise their brand.

Casinos: the opposite happens, in my opinion in relation to exchanges (e.g.) the traffic of players is not constant, they come and go, let's say that frequent players exist, but the niche of the betting world is managed with their main active; the newbie or "fish". So the casinos that can pay a constant signature in the forum "fight" for those users and in that process they consolidate the brand in the thinking of crypto players.

Even when they are not active gamblers, I think the some participant should also try the casino services they promote. It may not be like other services like exchanges, altcoins because actually their main user base is not on forums.

I also don't think that the main base of crypto casino users comes from forums ^{[I may be wrong]} but I'm sure there are some forum users who really like to gamble especially if they also like to do it with fiat. This is why crypto based gambling campaigns can last longer because I think there are really good benefits to the services of forum users and sharing some of the profits with the participants of the signature campaign even though it is still part of the promotion.

VThe majority of Sportbets.io, stake.com, Duebits, and Roobets sig participants are gamblers who actively use their services, and you can easily tell who is writing to fulfill their weekly post counts from who are actually core gamblers from their comments.

Yes, I learned about Bestchange through a forum signature campaign, and I've used the system in the past when I needed some PayPal funds, but I'm just saying that, unlike casino sites, the majority of their clients are not from their forums. I could be wrong, though.

Participants in the casino signature program spend more time on the casino sites, which is a significant advantage over other signature services.

While I didn't explicitly mention to you the privacy at stake with KYC among those many casinos, then I think people already know that. People already know about KYC being a special requirement at certain casinos, but some casinos don't seem to need it and can be used if you care about privacy.


You certainly understand what Ratimov means which I quote below for you, although the OP didn't mention it clearly but why didn't we think of comparing it to other campaigns.

While using crypto is looks have good privacy, but the fact isn't.
Most of big casinos in this forum had mandatory KYC and most people doesn't really care with their privacy e.g. using centralized exchanges. They're directly send their coins from casino to exchange, if they ever submit KYC either casino or exchange, the banks already know where's the funds came from. You wouldn't get a good privacy if you used centralized coins, KYC casino and centralized exchanges.

However @OP isn't discussing about bounty campaign as everyone already know bounty mostly scam and become worthless.

Furum might be the best promotion target to attract a lot of interest from crypto users to gamble. This is about crypto based casinos and we really think that there is quite a bit of money circulating there which might come from forum users believing that they will get good privacy without involving banks to gamble.

On average altcoin projects don't pay their campaign participants with bitcoin, they pay participants in token or coin especially when their project is successful. They don't need to have capital to finance the promotion because actually they will only pay with tokens or coins at the end of the campaign. I can say that most altcoin projects don't have much capital to pay campaign participants for weeks in bitcoin and it makes sense why not many altcoin campaigns pay them in bitcoin.

The promotion of a campaign about casino or gambling is also considered to be one of the most serious as compared to an altcoin campaign. The large cash circulation in the casino has been able to benefit the owners which in the end they can run the campaign longer than some altcoin campaigns with bitcoin payouts.

Oh yeah....and they also have the incentive that you mentioned and which I snipped out. 

I mean think about crypto and exactly what it's perfect for, what it has an advantage over cash and credit cards because of: online gambling, and purchasing goods/services that banks wouldn't allow you to pay for.  Bitcoin (and altcoins) provide a decent level of anonymity if used right; no oversight from the banking industry, and it's easily sent and received. 

Obviously dark market operations aren't going to advertise here (even if they were allowed to), so what does that leave you with?  Casinos, mostly, so that's precisely why most of the sig campaigns are gambling-related.  And yeah, there's tons of money to be made so those casinos kind of have to advertise themselves in order to get their name out in the public.  There are so many of them that if one didn't advertise, they'd probably be forgotten unless they had a dedicated user base.

Mixers are seen more clean than using it to mix bitcoin that was received by scammers. So I see this in another way, I believe this forum have many users and friends to this forum users that have high amount of bitcoin they do not play with in a way they are having the correct practices in a way they just have to use a mixers to maximize their privacy means of holding and using bitcoin.

If Bestchange is not making profit, the campaign would have ended probably a long time ago. I like your post, you even mentioned that you have used Bestchange like ones, twice or more times before. If not for this forum, would you have used exchange aggregator called Bestchange? So many people would be like you and also introducing it to friends.

Probably startup projects are not ready to pay in the real money so any services or projects choose to promote it via on their own social media channels or bounties respectively but the casinos advertisements are being efficient here so every new casino simply follow it and invest their money for marketing and get results.

I think the reason is promoting exchanges and tokens is more easier in google ads/websites than casino and mixers. Google ads/websites is more strict since they need some requirements of laws, licenses etc of the casino, in this forum you only need enough money to advertise. Mixer however isn't a company and some people see it as illegal, moreover most people doesn't care with privacy (less clients). Due to less clients, that's why only few mixers want to launch advertisements.

I tend to disagree, even we've seen gambling boards is really crowd and people were discussing about sports, slots, poker, casino, etc. But actually most of users there aren't really a gamblers, but their sole purpose is to fill the campaign requirement to post in gambling boards. If the campaign didn't ask they need to post minimum of 5-10 to gambling boards, I believe most users will move to Altcoin discussions since it's more easier than gambling boards.

(some of them) pay on their own gambling platform, people can't hold themselves and gamble it all. It's a win for them.