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Quote from: Egii Nna on August 02, 2024, 04:17:05 PM

So I ask him, does he actually gamble? He said not at all; he just came to try his luck and find something to feed his family. Then I asked him, Can he still remember the mistake that he made when he staked his first money? Then he said he saw no mistake. All that is involved in gambling is luck. I said okay, I will give him money to try betting, because I also don’t have the money that will be enough to feed his family, so he staked another bet. To my surprise, he won the game and got the money he needed.

Sounds a made up story to me. No elderly man that has family to feed badly will risk the small money that he has on gambling and think that there’s nothing wrong for doing it.

Realistically speaking, this man doesn’t have an addiction problem in the story since you mention that he just randomly try his luck to feed but his thinking seems like more on an addicted person he thinks there’s nothing wrong. The story is so vague for me.

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What I want to know is: Did I do a good job by using gambling to save him? Or do I just make him have an interest in gambling as a source of income?

I think so since you manage to give him what he needed. You gave him a chance to get the food for his family.

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You are good at making a story, you should start writing more but not here. Wink

Anyway, let's just answer the last question.
You are actually the worst if you do that. You just urged him to gamble more which means you can be the reason why he will gamble again next time.
What do you mean the money that you gave him to gamble cannot feed his family? Any money can feed a family as long as you know what and where to buy. I don't think the money you gave him is just cents because you cannot use that to gamble.

What if the bet loses? What's next? The two of you will be crying in frustration because you both made a stupid mistake. You just added fuel to the fire.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on August 02, 2024, 04:17:05 PM

What I want to know is: Did I do a good job by using gambling to save him? Or do I just make him have an interest in gambling as a source of income?

First of, your post topic and the story doesn't correlate so I think you need to rethink something suitable for a topic.

To your question. You did a good act in the wrong way. From your story you stated that the man is not a gambler, still you gave him money to continue gambling. What makes you think he wouldn't come back another day with the little money he would make from his daily pay when the construction company eventually pays him. Or perhaps, he could stop his construction job and focus onto gambling believing it's going to be a more preferable source of income for him than the meager pay he is getting from the construction company job.

The first approach people get as an experience with gambling does create a mental construct as to how they do view gambling to be for them. And in the case of that stranger, am positive he is going to turn to an addict because the tendency is that he's going to put much of his hope on gambling after making that money from his first win.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 03, 2024, 12:41:50 AM

First, his perception that he could double his money through gambling to feed his family rather than getting a second job or a well paying job. That's a sign that he's a gambling addict.
Secondly, you giving him money to gamble and him winning. Is you feeding his addiction and encouraging the behavior of crying and looking for sympathy.
Thirdly, you encouraged him to chase his loss. Now you have encouraged a gambling addict and a person to not be hardworking.

Just like a popular quotes "don't give someone fish, instead teach them how to fish".

But, it's not necessary wrong for someone to give fish for free, it just not recommended. Poverty is a complex problem and we can't expect just teaching someone how to fish is enough, read this article https://www.andyposner.org/2018/07/28/problem-parable-teaching-man-woman-fish/

If I were @OP I would give him some money and report him to the police, so the police will take care of him to get rehabilitation and donate some amount to survive for his family.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on August 02, 2024, 04:17:05 PM

I was in pain today because of the incident that I saw in a physical casino shop. Although I am not a fan of going to physical casinos, I prefer playing my bet in an online casino, but today I wish to go to the physical casino so that I can see other gamblers and maybe get experience, but I end up sad.

In the casino, I saw an elderly man crying in regret. I was concerned to know what the cause of his tears was, so I woke up to him to ask, and then the man narrated what happened. The man told me that he works in a construction site from morning just to get something to feed his family, because they haven’t seen food since yesterday morning, so after work from morning to night, the contractor tells them that they will all be paid tomorrow, so he begs the contractor to give him some money for transportation. When the contactor gave him some money, he then had to take a walk to see the nearest casino so that he could use the money and stake a bet to buy something for his family to feed on. After he staked the money, he ended up losing the game. That is why he is crying in regret.

So I ask him, does he actually gamble? He said not at all; he just came to try his luck and find something to feed his family. Then I asked him, Can he still remember the mistake that he made when he staked his first money? Then he said he saw no mistake. All that is involved in gambling is luck. I said okay, I will give him money to try betting, because I also don’t have the money that will be enough to feed his family, so he staked another bet. To my surprise, he won the game and got the money he needed.

What I want to know is: Did I do a good job by using gambling to save him? Or do I just make him have an interest in gambling as a source of income?

Out of a hundred percent of the population in the world only thirty percent benefit from gambling based on luck that's how rigged the game is, I wouldn't really agree that it's capable of Saving lives, gambling is filled with a too many uncertainties to hope on as a source of income... most people who are fully into it either lose their profits or capital constantly, gambling has damaged a lot of people's finances, the negative sides of gambling outweighs the positive sides, there are no systems to put you in profit, you can only get lucky

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Quote from: Stalker22 on August 02, 2024, 04:29:36 PM

Quote from: Egii Nna on August 02, 2024, 04:17:05 PM

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I read your post, and honestly I think its a bunch of bullshit. Roll Eyes

I just wanted to ask, what is the meaning of the title of this topic? And what does it have to do with the rest of your post?

LMAO, you are right man. Grin

The title itself looks very unrealistic since it doesn't really happen in real life. Maybe sometimes we get lucky and win, but in the long run, we will still lose. So we should not encourage people to gamble, especially those who think they can use their luck to feed their families. @OP, you have a good heart, but you should not tolerate people taking such reckless actions as it will only make them irresponsible.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on August 02, 2024, 04:29:36 PM

I read your post, and honestly I think its a bunch of bullshit. Roll Eyes

I just wanted to ask, what is the meaning of the title of this topic? And what does it have to do with the rest of your post?

Some people do not know how to make their post coherent. That is what I see about OP. But I think he might meant that the man's salary might be enough before but because of the inflation in their country, things become tough which might let the man to be in such situation. Like in my country, despite there has been increase in inflation from 18% in 2022 to 35% in July 2024, the government are still paying the same minimum wage they have been paying since 2020. But the government has just increased it 3 days ago. Before that 3 days ago, it could hard on people in a way some may not be able to successfully feed their family.

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I just laugh at the fact that people expect to win at gambling when their children are hungry instead of saving their last pennies. This is insanely stupid, and the fact that the OP writes that he helped him by giving him some money so that the poor guy would go and place a bet again also confirms the stupidity of short-sighted people.
What if he lost someone else's money again? A man should work if his income is insufficient; he should think about it in advance and not cry when he has lost his last money. You must look for a second or third job and stop believing the casino will bring you wealth. Money always sticks to money; if someone is a beggar, he should forget about the casino and look for a normal income.
To hell with such a husband and father.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on August 02, 2024, 04:29:36 PM

Quote from: Egii Nna on August 02, 2024, 04:17:05 PM

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I read your post, and honestly I think its a bunch of bullshit. Roll Eyes

I just wanted to ask, what is the meaning of the title of this topic? And what does it have to do with the rest of your post?

the story is not adding up to a very large extent and is even misleading if what he narrates here is true although I have had a first hand experience of going into a gambling short to place a bet at the time I needed extra money to top up the one I already had for the my feeding and lost the money and had to go back home empty handed.

The issue o find in his story is that;
1. It's totally wrong to see a man that lost his last money through gambling and you're helping him out at the spot and your advice is to use what you've given him to gamble at that same spot? What happens when he looses it? And I guess that's possibly where he coined his title from that gambling can save life. Plus I'm even trying to look for the relationship between losing a gamble and inflation and can't seem to find an easy one.
2. I'm not conversant with how casino shops works since it's not popular in my region but if it's same setting with sports betting shops, most sports better would even laugh you to scorn if you're crying because you've lost. No one gives a thing about your loss since most of them have lost at one point in time and still had to pull themselves together by themselves.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on August 02, 2024, 04:17:05 PM

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What I want to know is: Did I do a good job by using gambling to save him? Or do I just make him have an interest in gambling as a source of income?

This is quite complicated because you are good at helping someone who is in trouble but on the other hand it is for gambling and it is not recommended, especially all for the purpose of making money and being able to meet the needs of the family.
All of this is like making gambling place to make money and when it succeeds it will have bad habit impact, I sure that one day when he needs money again he will definitely come to the casino to bet and hope to win.
Basically, whatever the betting activity is, it is gambling and in gambling there is uncertainty to the guarantee of defeat, someone who is in difficult condition when getting to know gambling and has mistake in their mindset will find conditions that are much more difficult.

Yes, hopefully what happened with all that can provide little lesson if gambling is luck and he does not come back when he needs money because previously he had felt regret due to the defeat that occurred.

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Your topic title has nothing to do with what happened to you. I find it odd why you mention inflation here. But the incident happened due to the excessive greed of the man who ended up losing his entire weekly wages on gambling. One should not participate without prior experience in physical casinos or gambling as was the case with the man mentioned in the incident. He had no previous experience but participated in gambling for extra profits in physical casinos and lost the amount of money he participated in. But if his family has no money to buy food then there will be no regret for this reckless man. Such a situation is desirable for this reckless man.

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I don't quite understand why the title of the topic mentions inflation, but that's a secondary thing. As for the act, I think the author of the topic gave the old man false hope and basically made him a gambler with his own hands. This means that the old man will try to bet again and again until he goes completely bankrupt. Most likely, he does not understand that in most cases you can't make money on gambling. Perhaps he does not even know that 99% of people lose in gambling. It is really sad, but only the experience of losses will make him smarter.

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There are too many wrongs in this story.
First, his perception that he could double his money through gambling to feed his family rather than getting a second job or a well paying job. That's a sign that he's a gambling addict.
Secondly, you giving him money to gamble and him winning. Is you feeding his addiction and encouraging the behavior of crying and looking for sympathy.
Thirdly, you encouraged him to chase his loss. Now you have encouraged a gambling addict and a person to not be hardworking.

Never give out money to anyone in a bet shop to gamble. It is very wrong.

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OP, I don't understand from what point of view you consider gambling as an important tool during inflation. Inflation does not occur only because of a specific issue but because of the political and economic upheaval of the entire country. During inflation the profit from gambling may make things better for a while but it is not permanent because gambling income is temporary so it is never possible to deal with a large scale problem with this temporary income. Also, I don't understand how you explain this to the gamblers who will lose their bets during this inflation.

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It's always wrong to resort to gambling because one needs money. In which case, the man was wrong. I also think you are wrong in giving him money to bet more. You don't have to feed his family. You don't have much yourself, after all. It could have been enough that you give him the right amount he needed to get into a bus or whatever to get home. What if he lost the bet? Then he's left with nothing. He'll probably be walking kilometers just to get home to his family.

Gambling is never a refuge from financial difficulties. If you treat it this way, you're simply jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on August 02, 2024, 04:17:05 PM

Did I do a good job by using gambling to save him? Or do I just make him have an interest in gambling as a source of income?

You saved him that day but in the long run you've created a possible problem gambler who may continue to gamble with amount of money that he cannot afford to lose simply because of the experience that they have had with you. I understand that this gambler was in a desperate situation but gambling is not the best situation for desperate individuals to try to make some money from as it is not for making money and it is more for fun. You would have advised this new gambler who was bitter after loosing to take their experience as a lesson not to gamble also when one is under emotional pressure and stress.

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I almost got upset for just reading a misconstrued statement. It's definitely insane to hear that gambling can save life.

Apparently, you helped someone but does that have anything to do with gambling saving a life? of course no, If I would believe this to be true I will definitely question every step you took, including the post.

I would continue to say perhaps, you did well by helping the old man out for the day and with luck on his side he got another chance to catch the bag which was only possible through you and I commend that about you but it's still not convincing as long as you let him stake about bet when there was 50/50 chance of losing too. If you had a second thought of what will be his situation if he eventually losses the last chance you would understand why better why gambling is not advised if not with what you can afford to loss.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 02, 2024, 04:32:30 PM

a nice feel good story that could probably get you an A in a junior high school writing class. I enjoyed it.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on August 02, 2024, 04:17:05 PM

I was in pain today because of the incident that I saw in a physical casino shop. Although I am not a fan of going to physical casinos, I prefer playing my bet in an online casino, but today I wish to go to the physical casino so that I can see other gamblers and maybe get experience, but I end up sad.

In the casino, I saw an elderly man crying in regret. I was concerned to know what the cause of his tears was, so I woke up to him to ask, and then the man narrated what happened. The man told me that he works in a construction site from morning just to get something to feed his family, because they haven’t seen food since yesterday morning, so after work from morning to night, the contractor tells them that they will all be paid tomorrow, so he begs the contractor to give him some money for transportation. When the contactor gave him some money, he then had to take a walk to see the nearest casino so that he could use the money and stake a bet to buy something for his family to feed on. After he staked the money, he ended up losing the game. That is why he is crying in regret.

So I ask him, does he actually gamble? He said not at all; he just came to try his luck and find something to feed his family. Then I asked him, Can he still remember the mistake that he made when he staked his first money? Then he said he saw no mistake. All that is involved in gambling is luck. I said okay, I will give him money to try betting, because I also don’t have the money that will be enough to feed his family, so he staked another bet. To my surprise, he won the game and got the money he needed.

What I want to know is: Did I do a good job by using gambling to save him? Or do I just make him have an interest in gambling as a source of income?

In my opinion, you helped him as much as you could at that time, but I think that after he won money that allowed him to recover the money he lost, then you should have warned him that with his financial conditions, he should not get involved in gambling because he would be taking the money that would be intended for him to buy food and using it in gambling and losing everything, then he would be left without food, but the worst scenario was yet to come, which would be his wife if he found out that he took the money that was supposed to buy food and went to gamble at a casino, this could undoubtedly cause him to lose his wife as well. These are very frequent cases in which a marriage or relationship ends because the husband went to gamble with the money that was supposed to pay the bills and lost everything.

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Lot of people with what they faces on a daily basis if by giving someone money to gamble saved his life then fine but the truth of it that could had gained more attention is if he has to gamble with any of these site advertising here or maybe we could have seen how truth this story could be. However, I can't say your story are fiction because I know lots of things happening outside world and people are facing really difficult moment so, if there are any chances to assist a fellow then it's better we do it than them to go steal what doesn't belong to them or either commit suicide just for the sake they lost hope in life.

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What you need to know is that even luck runs out one day, so the old man got lucky, he will probably get his next paycheck, bet again and unfortunately lose. I think this is the most likely scenario.

You were a generous guy, but you should encourage him to look for another more secure source of income, 'cause gambling is for those who have time and money to spare and can afford to play and accept losing and that's okay, because knowing that even if you lose in the game, it's money that you won't miss. Gambling is just for fun and shouldn't be treated as a main source of income.

Or if he at least played once in a while, when in addition to having enough money to feed his household, he would bet when he had money to spare and that didn't compromise his budget too much.

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