Gambling Distortion Pattern - page 4.

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Quote from: Fatunad on November 20, 2022, 07:08:00 PM

There's no wrong on still continuing to gamble as long you are really still in good control in your finances and behavior then i dont see anything wrong or making yourself that addicted.
Gambling wont really be a problem if you do really have that good self control because if not then you would really be having a huge problem which would really be in related with addiction.
Dont make yourself get control nor tolerate these things because it isnt really something worth on destroying on someones life because of gambling.
Everything should be in control or in moderation.

First, I'm sorry Sir, I'm going to contradict what you said a little bit. First, we know as a gambler that gambling is really bad. We just say that there is nothing wrong or bad as long as we don't apply it to our fellow man. But because we think that if we have control over our gambling it becomes correct in our assumptions and opinions.

However, since we can't stop ourselves from gambling because it gives us pleasure or happiness, it turns out that it is not bad or wrong in the eyes of us gamblers even though we know to ourselves that it has risks in the end...

some say the difference between the poison and the medicine is the dosage
supposing someone can control themselves and gambling is just something they do for entertainment, not an addictive behavior, it should be fine

but I'd agree with you that most of the times it's not like that.

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Quote from: Fatunad on November 20, 2022, 07:08:00 PM

There's no wrong on still continuing to gamble as long you are really still in good control in your finances and behavior then i dont see anything wrong or making yourself that addicted.
Gambling wont really be a problem if you do really have that good self control because if not then you would really be having a huge problem which would really be in related with addiction.
Dont make yourself get control nor tolerate these things because it isnt really something worth on destroying on someones life because of gambling.
Everything should be in control or in moderation.

First, I'm sorry Sir, I'm going to contradict what you said a little bit. First, we know as a gambler that gambling is really bad. We just say that there is nothing wrong or bad as long as we don't apply it to our fellow man. But because we think that if we have control over our gambling it becomes correct in our assumptions and opinions.

However, since we can't stop ourselves from gambling because it gives us pleasure or happiness, it turns out that it is not bad or wrong in the eyes of us gamblers even though we know to ourselves that it has risks in the end...

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it's interesting that most of the cases will follow statistical distribution with odds slightly better for the house
but there'll be outliers on these patterns

case 4th reminds me of this

some people go against the odds
call it luck if you want.

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You did a nice job with your graphing but I think your numberings aren't that we'll placed.
My area of most interest is in that if the graph 3 when one makes a deposit and start making wins and along the line, Al you could account for are total loses despite all your efforts.
Most cases, I feel at times that those casinos lure greedy people by first giving them a win and then drag them to making losses and I feel that most of those stuffs and games are actually manipulated and decietful and very common in most non reputable casinos.
On the other hand, I also feel the faults comes from the players at the long run because contentment is lacking which is a great key in gambling..the moment one learns how to be contented, then he has won 75 percentage of the casino tricks and when one makes such losses, the players tends to return back with more money and capital to recover it's losses and tend to indulge in revenge gambling which at the end are mostly favourable.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on November 22, 2022, 08:44:18 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 22, 2022, 07:14:59 AM

Quote from: jostorres on November 20, 2022, 02:54:30 PM

Quote from: lienfaye on November 19, 2022, 11:04:02 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on November 17, 2022, 12:59:08 AM

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I also think i'm suited to pattern 3 because that's how it started. You'll experience to win in gambling and got hooked thinking the same result might happen again and so it's the start of your gambling activity. However, i'm not the type who will chase my losses because I can't accept what happened. I still gamble because it's fun and entertaining and that's the reason why I keep playing. Of course it's really nice to win but we know it can't happen often as the house always win.

Thus it's best not to have high hopes so you can control yourself to refrain from depositing to chase back what you have lost.

I think it depends. There are people that once they win, they will never show up again. It's amazing that they also knew that it was only a kind of lure that once they came back, their previous won are going to be confiscated again and then they will be forced to deposit their own money in hopes of winning it back. I think these kind of people are already born to be wise in life. Many call it beginners luck and believes on it than the other way around.

Well, I guess there is nothing we can do much about them. I know you are treating gambling for fun but you said keep on coming back from it? I think addiction can also build up there. It's important that we still limit ourselves.

If we keep going back to the casino, it's obvious the addiction can build from there because, slowly, we think that we want to recover from our losses and end up depositing more in the hope that we will win. But as wise gamblers, we must think that we should not deposit more money to recover the losses but instead, we try to deposit as much money as we can afford and just try to have fun. And I agree that if we can get a win, we must be able to refrain from continuing the game and preferring to stop for a while and avoid gambling for a while is a good way to go.

It's indeed not advisable to chase winnings after winning consecutively the same way with chasing a winning after consecutive losses. Both aren't really a good idea because it could develop addiction on the gambler's side. You can go in the repeated cycle if you will keep on doing that and eventually, you'll find a hard time to break the chain to that cycle.

Refrain yourself from going beyond your set limitations so that you won't go over your allocated budget for gambling and you won't be dependent on it. Just set a fixed target of number of bets regardless of wins and losses and stop if you already consumed your tries. Do not be so greedy and hungry for the profit because it isn't really guaranteed.

Maybe one day we will be able to win streaks and that should be more than enough for us to say stop because if we continue, we have the potential to experience consecutive defeats as well. But we rarely get those winning streaks, so appreciate what we've got rather than keep chasing win after win. We should already know that it's not easy, so we have to know ourselves and stay within the boundaries we have set. Losing and winning is normal but deciding to stop is very difficult, especially when our emotions have gone up from before. This is what we have to control so as not to lose more money.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on November 20, 2022, 05:45:01 AM

Slots are designed to constantly "reward" you with small wins.... but if you look at the larger picture, you will notice that the graph are showing that the casino are gradually sucking all your funds in the long run.

The small wins are insignificant, when you compare it to the constant losses.... so it is very much like the theory of the slow boiled frog. (if you put a frog in a pot filled with pleasantly tepid water and gradually heat it, the frog will remain in the water until it boils to death.)

That is why people are saying..... If you continue playing, the house always wins. Roll Eyes

And it does not really help that in the game of slots you can see some of the worst odds you can find at most casino games, and the speed of the game can be quite fast so you can bleed money if you are not having your lucky night, still for those that are only gambling for fun this is not much of a problem, but for those that may like to make money with their gambling this is terrible news because there is not much you can do to try to improve your performance when playing slots.

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 20, 2022, 10:32:06 AM

That is a good visual representation of different types of gambling zones one has encountered in their lifetime.
Unfortunately I have never experienced the first one where I keep on winning the bets.
I have surely encountered the second one few times one my bad days.
The third one is most frequent for me where I win in the beginning but eventually lose in the end.
I have experienced the fourth one as well but it rarely happens.

that's true
3rd pattern is usually the most common because the house always has an edge and in the long run most of the gamblers (like the day traders) will lose money.

4th pattern may be possible out of luck but quite unusual.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 22, 2022, 07:14:59 AM

Quote from: jostorres on November 20, 2022, 02:54:30 PM

Quote from: lienfaye on November 19, 2022, 11:04:02 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on November 17, 2022, 12:59:08 AM

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I also think i'm suited to pattern 3 because that's how it started. You'll experience to win in gambling and got hooked thinking the same result might happen again and so it's the start of your gambling activity. However, i'm not the type who will chase my losses because I can't accept what happened. I still gamble because it's fun and entertaining and that's the reason why I keep playing. Of course it's really nice to win but we know it can't happen often as the house always win.

Thus it's best not to have high hopes so you can control yourself to refrain from depositing to chase back what you have lost.

I think it depends. There are people that once they win, they will never show up again. It's amazing that they also knew that it was only a kind of lure that once they came back, their previous won are going to be confiscated again and then they will be forced to deposit their own money in hopes of winning it back. I think these kind of people are already born to be wise in life. Many call it beginners luck and believes on it than the other way around.

Well, I guess there is nothing we can do much about them. I know you are treating gambling for fun but you said keep on coming back from it? I think addiction can also build up there. It's important that we still limit ourselves.

If we keep going back to the casino, it's obvious the addiction can build from there because, slowly, we think that we want to recover from our losses and end up depositing more in the hope that we will win. But as wise gamblers, we must think that we should not deposit more money to recover the losses but instead, we try to deposit as much money as we can afford and just try to have fun. And I agree that if we can get a win, we must be able to refrain from continuing the game and preferring to stop for a while and avoid gambling for a while is a good way to go.

It's indeed not advisable to chase winnings after winning consecutively the same way with chasing a winning after consecutive losses. Both aren't really a good idea because it could develop addiction on the gambler's side. You can go in the repeated cycle if you will keep on doing that and eventually, you'll find a hard time to break the chain to that cycle.

Refrain yourself from going beyond your set limitations so that you won't go over your allocated budget for gambling and you won't be dependent on it. Just set a fixed target of number of bets regardless of wins and losses and stop if you already consumed your tries. Do not be so greedy and hungry for the profit because it isn't really guaranteed.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on November 20, 2022, 05:45:01 AM

Slots are designed to constantly "reward" you with small wins.... but if you look at the larger picture, you will notice that the graph are showing that the casino are gradually sucking all your funds in the long run.
The small wins are insignificant, when you compare it to the constant losses.... so it is very much like the theory of the slow boiled frog. (if you put a frog in a pot filled with pleasantly tepid water and gradually heat it, the frog will remain in the water until it boils to death.)
That is why people are saying..... If you continue playing, the house always wins. Roll Eyes

That's how gambling works, only a small portion or few people wins the slot games and those are the lucky one who has a lot of time and money to play the game, I tried to track my slot games and the winning and losing total amount is just near to each other but still good profit I get and after that, I didn't play for a while just to get funds, that's why gambling seems like to only have afforded to lose a lot and risk, ideal to track those gambling activities if still ideal to play or losing too much.

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Quote from: jostorres on November 20, 2022, 02:54:30 PM

Quote from: lienfaye on November 19, 2022, 11:04:02 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on November 17, 2022, 12:59:08 AM

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I also think i'm suited to pattern 3 because that's how it started. You'll experience to win in gambling and got hooked thinking the same result might happen again and so it's the start of your gambling activity. However, i'm not the type who will chase my losses because I can't accept what happened. I still gamble because it's fun and entertaining and that's the reason why I keep playing. Of course it's really nice to win but we know it can't happen often as the house always win.

Thus it's best not to have high hopes so you can control yourself to refrain from depositing to chase back what you have lost.

I think it depends. There are people that once they win, they will never show up again. It's amazing that they also knew that it was only a kind of lure that once they came back, their previous won are going to be confiscated again and then they will be forced to deposit their own money in hopes of winning it back. I think these kind of people are already born to be wise in life. Many call it beginners luck and believes on it than the other way around.

Well, I guess there is nothing we can do much about them. I know you are treating gambling for fun but you said keep on coming back from it? I think addiction can also build up there. It's important that we still limit ourselves.

If we keep going back to the casino, it's obvious the addiction can build from there because, slowly, we think that we want to recover from our losses and end up depositing more in the hope that we will win. But as wise gamblers, we must think that we should not deposit more money to recover the losses but instead, we try to deposit as much money as we can afford and just try to have fun. And I agree that if we can get a win, we must be able to refrain from continuing the game and preferring to stop for a while and avoid gambling for a while is a good way to go.

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Quote from: jostorres on November 20, 2022, 02:54:30 PM

Quote from: lienfaye on November 19, 2022, 11:04:02 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on November 17, 2022, 12:59:08 AM

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I also think i'm suited to pattern 3 because that's how it started. You'll experience to win in gambling and got hooked thinking the same result might happen again and so it's the start of your gambling activity. However, i'm not the type who will chase my losses because I can't accept what happened. I still gamble because it's fun and entertaining and that's the reason why I keep playing. Of course it's really nice to win but we know it can't happen often as the house always win.

Thus it's best not to have high hopes so you can control yourself to refrain from depositing to chase back what you have lost.

I think it depends. There are people that once they win, they will never show up again. It's amazing that they also knew that it was only a kind of lure that once they came back, their previous won are going to be confiscated again and then they will be forced to deposit their own money in hopes of winning it back. I think these kind of people are already born to be wise in life. Many call it beginners luck and believes on it than the other way around.

Well, I guess there is nothing we can do much about them. I know you are treating gambling for fun but you said keep on coming back from it? I think addiction can also build up there. It's important that we still limit ourselves.

There's no wrong on still continuing to gamble as long you are really still in good control in your finances and behavior then i dont see anything wrong or making yourself that addicted.
Gambling wont really be a problem if you do really have that good self control because if not then you would really be having a huge problem which would really be in related with addiction.
Dont make yourself get control nor tolerate these things because it isnt really something worth on destroying on someones life because of gambling.
Everything should be in control or in moderation.

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Quote from: lienfaye on November 19, 2022, 11:04:02 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on November 17, 2022, 12:59:08 AM

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I also think i'm suited to pattern 3 because that's how it started. You'll experience to win in gambling and got hooked thinking the same result might happen again and so it's the start of your gambling activity. However, i'm not the type who will chase my losses because I can't accept what happened. I still gamble because it's fun and entertaining and that's the reason why I keep playing. Of course it's really nice to win but we know it can't happen often as the house always win.

Thus it's best not to have high hopes so you can control yourself to refrain from depositing to chase back what you have lost.

I think it depends. There are people that once they win, they will never show up again. It's amazing that they also knew that it was only a kind of lure that once they came back, their previous won are going to be confiscated again and then they will be forced to deposit their own money in hopes of winning it back. I think these kind of people are already born to be wise in life. Many call it beginners luck and believes on it than the other way around.

Well, I guess there is nothing we can do much about them. I know you are treating gambling for fun but you said keep on coming back from it? I think addiction can also build up there. It's important that we still limit ourselves.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on November 20, 2022, 05:45:01 AM

Slots are designed to constantly "reward" you with small wins.... but if you look at the larger picture, you will notice that the graph are showing that the casino are gradually sucking all your funds in the long run.

The small wins are insignificant, when you compare it to the constant losses.... so it is very much like the theory of the slow boiled frog. (if you put a frog in a pot filled with pleasantly tepid water and gradually heat it, the frog will remain in the water until it boils to death.)

That is why people are saying..... If you continue playing, the house always wins. Roll Eyes

Gamblers already know that but the problem is that the slot providers make in between this slow sucking process of the casino what is called the bonus round which of course most of the times do not give you that big wins but fewer times these bonus rounds gives the players huge win with up x5000-x100000 of that bet and it is exactly this that makes gamblers come back despite knowing that in the long run the casino with the house edge wins always but the gamblers are after these huge wins and that is what keeps gamblers come back with that usual pattern that they keep depositing more by chasing these wins.

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That is a good visual representation of different types of gambling zones one has encountered in their lifetime.
Unfortunately I have never experienced the first one where I keep on winning the bets.
I have surely encountered the second one few times one my bad days.
The third one is most frequent for me where I win in the beginning but eventually lose in the end.
I have experienced the fourth one as well but it rarely happens.

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Slots are designed to constantly "reward" you with small wins.... but if you look at the larger picture, you will notice that the graph are showing that the casino are gradually sucking all your funds in the long run.

The small wins are insignificant, when you compare it to the constant losses.... so it is very much like the theory of the slow boiled frog. (if you put a frog in a pot filled with pleasantly tepid water and gradually heat it, the frog will remain in the water until it boils to death.)

That is why people are saying..... If you continue playing, the house always wins. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: lienfaye on November 19, 2022, 11:04:02 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on November 17, 2022, 12:59:08 AM

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I also think i'm suited to pattern 3 because that's how it started. You'll experience to win in gambling and got hooked thinking the same result might happen again and so it's the start of your gambling activity. However, i'm not the type who will chase my losses because I can't accept what happened. I still gamble because it's fun and entertaining and that's the reason why I keep playing. Of course it's really nice to win but we know it can't happen often as the house always win.

Thus it's best not to have high hopes so you can control yourself to refrain from depositing to chase back what you have lost.

Pattern 3 is the most related scenario other than pattern 2 (we often never win and start with a lose streak which we will call it for the day) since we often get lucky on our first few bets however if we continue betting, we encounter a losing streak from which if we don't notice it early on, we might end up chasing for our losses and lose all our bankroll. But for some people who will notice the lose streak early on then, they might be able to retain their winnings but that doesn't happen oftentimes as we are caught up with the excitement of our wins.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on November 17, 2022, 12:59:08 AM

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I also think i'm suited to pattern 3 because that's how it started. You'll experience to win in gambling and got hooked thinking the same result might happen again and so it's the start of your gambling activity. However, i'm not the type who will chase my losses because I can't accept what happened. I still gamble because it's fun and entertaining and that's the reason why I keep playing. Of course it's really nice to win but we know it can't happen often as the house always win.

Thus it's best not to have high hopes so you can control yourself to refrain from depositing to chase back what you have lost.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 16, 2022, 11:23:15 PM

Pattern numbers 3 and 4 have a relationship, because basically players will always come back to play whatever the result as long as they still have the funds will come back to play whatever the motivation is either to win or because they want to get fun, it becomes no longer fun when experiencing consecutive defeats but there are players who gamble only for entertainment.

They do, people gamble hoping not only to obtain a monetary reward but also to experience all kind of emotions in the process, so after they begin a good session and then luck turns against them they expect that the pattern number 4 materializes and they can make an epic comeback, but unfortunately the pattern that appears more often is the third one, at that point some gamblers may get so mad that they may even claim the games are rigged, but they know the truth, they had the opportunity to end the session early as winners, but instead got greedy and lost everything.

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Quote from: naira on October 07, 2022, 11:31:08 PM

3. Gambling Distortion Pattern III

Next is a picture of the third gambling pattern of course when you first make a deposit you get a total win, but here the problem is that you lose control and are too confident that the victory you just got is just the beginning and feel confident that there will still be many wins ahead. Conditions like this push you into a trap that motivates you mentally to continue to have big ambitions. As a result, the wins are getting smaller, little by little loss but still accompanied by uncontrollable ambition, finally, all the balances owned are lost.

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I was one of those who experienced this too because the gambling platform made me experience winning no matter how much, but in the end, I still lost. But even though that happened to me, I thought that I might experience winning like that or more again, this is what was planted in my mind, but that didn't happen. It's always a loss if experienced and if I win maybe only 2 times out of 10 plays.

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Pattern numbers 3 and 4 have a relationship, because basically players will always come back to play whatever the result as long as they still have the funds will come back to play whatever the motivation is either to win or because they want to get fun, it becomes no longer fun when experiencing consecutive defeats but there are players who gamble only for entertainment.

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