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Quote from: worldofcoins on July 29, 2021, 11:25:12 AM

These days I'm seeing many Youtubers and Twitch streamers are promoting Gambling websites [Dice, Sports Betting] and Poker Apps.

I know it's ok to gamble for having fun and socially but I don't think young people should be exposed to this when they're in school.
Most of them will only imagine "What 'IF' i win 1000x of this amount and i'll be able to do this and that"

The first thing where will they get the money, even if they get pocket money and use that to gamble then they'll slowly develop the habit of gambling disregarding short-term winnings - if they occur.

They'll pay a huge price with the tension they'll have thinking about this when their whole life is ahead.

Honestly in the society we live in now Kids are seeing all sorts of stuff maybe they shouldn't have access too. It isn't just limited to gambling but watch TV and see how much alcohol is glorified. I mean don't get me wrong, love a good bourbon but it's glorified on TV. Its the media driven world we live in.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on August 21, 2021, 06:59:22 AM

Even without the social media influencers, we already have traditional media and most of the time, culture itself, that tends to show gambling to children at an early age. You don't gamble with money before but when you play your marbles or your trading cards, of course these games gives the children the value of playing and then giving away your stuff to the opposite player if you lose the game. Some cultures also has small spider fights or other insects maybe then they gamble not money but the insects themselves, giving 2 spiders to the winner.

Playing marbles and cards in our child's time can bring us to gambling because sometimes, we use marbles and risk it to be the winner. We do not think that is gambling because we are kids who do not know much about gambling. But after we grow up and get more information, we will consider if by getting something, we need to risk other things, it could be called gambling. that is a small thing that many adult people do not realize about the traditional games that our kids played.

That actually makes sense. We all are facing situations where we have to gamble right from our childhood.
The gambles doesn't necessarily have to be with money but anything whether it be toys, food, clothes, games or anything.
I think rather than restricting the children to gambling we can actually educate them towards gambling but with the right intention.
We can educate them towards the Do's and Dont's of gambling and how addiction towards gambling can ruin his life.

We don't see it as gambling because it's almost like playing and doesn't involve money. Just like pokemon cards that we exchange but it's not seen as gambling particularly in sports where competitiveness is encouraged to kids. In sports, the pat on the back or A grade from the teacher is okay as a price.

That's still not going to be counted as gambling. Kids today already have the view of what is right and wrong when it is shown as only grown-ups do it. They know real gambling is when you play cards because even in kid's movies it's there.

Funnily enough bringing Pokemon here up for discussion as a kids game where no money is involved, the last card selling for $370,000 happened in February this year.

https://kotaku.com/the-top-10-most-valuable-pokemon-cards-in-history-1847225621/slides/11

That's crazy. Imagine you are a lucky guy of a little kid playing this card game, leaving some of the cards somewhere in the kids room not knowing what's going on with the value of some of them. Lucky dad I guess, you could easily say "good gamble my son/daughter"!

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 21, 2021, 10:25:55 AM

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Quote from: iTradeChips on August 21, 2021, 06:59:22 AM

Even without the social media influencers, we already have traditional media and most of the time, culture itself, that tends to show gambling to children at an early age. You don't gamble with money before but when you play your marbles or your trading cards, of course these games gives the children the value of playing and then giving away your stuff to the opposite player if you lose the game. Some cultures also has small spider fights or other insects maybe then they gamble not money but the insects themselves, giving 2 spiders to the winner.

Playing marbles and cards in our child's time can bring us to gambling because sometimes, we use marbles and risk it to be the winner. We do not think that is gambling because we are kids who do not know much about gambling. But after we grow up and get more information, we will consider if by getting something, we need to risk other things, it could be called gambling. that is a small thing that many adult people do not realize about the traditional games that our kids played.

That actually makes sense. We all are facing situations where we have to gamble right from our childhood.
The gambles doesn't necessarily have to be with money but anything whether it be toys, food, clothes, games or anything.
I think rather than restricting the children to gambling we can actually educate them towards gambling but with the right intention.
We can educate them towards the Do's and Dont's of gambling and how addiction towards gambling can ruin his life.

We don't see it as gambling because it's almost like playing and doesn't involve money. Just like pokemon cards that we exchange but it's not seen as gambling particularly in sports where competitiveness is encouraged to kids. In sports, the pat on the back or A grade from the teacher is okay as a price.

That's still not going to be counted as gambling. Kids today already have the view of what is right and wrong when it is shown as only grown-ups do it. They know real gambling is when you play cards because even in kid's movies it's there.

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Quote from: ipanks on August 21, 2021, 09:06:40 AM

Quote from: iTradeChips on August 21, 2021, 06:59:22 AM

Even without the social media influencers, we already have traditional media and most of the time, culture itself, that tends to show gambling to children at an early age. You don't gamble with money before but when you play your marbles or your trading cards, of course these games gives the children the value of playing and then giving away your stuff to the opposite player if you lose the game. Some cultures also has small spider fights or other insects maybe then they gamble not money but the insects themselves, giving 2 spiders to the winner.

Playing marbles and cards in our child's time can bring us to gambling because sometimes, we use marbles and risk it to be the winner. We do not think that is gambling because we are kids who do not know much about gambling. But after we grow up and get more information, we will consider if by getting something, we need to risk other things, it could be called gambling. that is a small thing that many adult people do not realize about the traditional games that our kids played.

That actually makes sense. We all are facing situations where we have to gamble right from our childhood.
The gambles doesn't necessarily have to be with money but anything whether it be toys, food, clothes, games or anything.
I think rather than restricting the children to gambling we can actually educate them towards gambling but with the right intention.
We can educate them towards the Do's and Dont's of gambling and how addiction towards gambling can ruin his life.

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Quote from: ipanks on August 21, 2021, 09:06:40 AM

Playing marbles and cards in our child's time can bring us to gambling because sometimes, we use marbles and risk it to be the winner. We do not think that is gambling because we are kids who do not know much about gambling. But after we grow up and get more information, we will consider if by getting something, we need to risk other things, it could be called gambling. that is a small thing that many adult people do not realize about the traditional games that our kids played.

In fact, a huge number of things in the world are gambling and children are faced with this everywhere. And I cannot say that this is bad - if it is part of the real world, then they should be able to interact with the world and understand it. Of course, you should not take your child to the casino or introduce him to gambling as early as possible, but I think it is wrong to unnecessarily protect him from the real world.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on August 21, 2021, 06:59:22 AM

Even without the social media influencers, we already have traditional media and most of the time, culture itself, that tends to show gambling to children at an early age. You don't gamble with money before but when you play your marbles or your trading cards, of course these games gives the children the value of playing and then giving away your stuff to the opposite player if you lose the game. Some cultures also has small spider fights or other insects maybe then they gamble not money but the insects themselves, giving 2 spiders to the winner.

Playing marbles and cards in our child's time can bring us to gambling because sometimes, we use marbles and risk it to be the winner. We do not think that is gambling because we are kids who do not know much about gambling. But after we grow up and get more information, we will consider if by getting something, we need to risk other things, it could be called gambling. that is a small thing that many adult people do not realize about the traditional games that our kids played.

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Even without the social media influencers, we already have traditional media and most of the time, culture itself, that tends to show gambling to children at an early age. You don't gamble with money before but when you play your marbles or your trading cards, of course these games gives the children the value of playing and then giving away your stuff to the opposite player if you lose the game. Some cultures also has small spider fights or other insects maybe then they gamble not money but the insects themselves, giving 2 spiders to the winner.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on August 21, 2021, 06:31:23 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on August 19, 2021, 06:42:13 AM

Quote from: john_nautica on August 19, 2021, 02:35:47 AM

Yes any children or underage person can easily access gambling websites and we can't really control that what we can do is to supervise our children or monitor them I think there are some applications where you can limit which websites will your children can access, I think that's pretty useful in regards with streaming sites that shows gambling I think there should be a warning that it's only for 18+ users.

You can restrict that through the admin's control and access to your network or, you can simply block most of the websites you think that your children will visit through their gadgets if they own one. There's a way to block their access through it if you think that you cannot stop them. It's a choice for allowing them and make them exposed on it but if you don't want them to be exposed, you have to do something like this in order to stop them.

In browsers, if the children have their own devices you can block their access to the device but AFAIK if you block a particular website to your ISP you cant even access this too, instead of the recent update of the windows 10 if you are using with the Windows operating system they have family settings or the family control which is more recommended to you. Most of the platform even they ask for their user's age and agreement the Terms some of the kid already knowledgeable and bypass those agreements so they can keep proceeding to the web.

Well, I cannot deny that you have a point here. And that being said, such measures are not enough and has limitations on its efficacy, especially that modern generation are very much tech-savvy and figure out things on their own. We cannot emphasize enough how important parental guidance and essential conversation about the potential impacts of indulging in such activities. It is in the hope that children may make wiser decisions, as they know better, that having conversation with them about this is crucial.

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Quote from: passwordnow on August 19, 2021, 06:42:13 AM

Quote from: john_nautica on August 19, 2021, 02:35:47 AM

Yes any children or underage person can easily access gambling websites and we can't really control that what we can do is to supervise our children or monitor them I think there are some applications where you can limit which websites will your children can access, I think that's pretty useful in regards with streaming sites that shows gambling I think there should be a warning that it's only for 18+ users.

You can restrict that through the admin's control and access to your network or, you can simply block most of the websites you think that your children will visit through their gadgets if they own one. There's a way to block their access through it if you think that you cannot stop them. It's a choice for allowing them and make them exposed on it but if you don't want them to be exposed, you have to do something like this in order to stop them.

In browsers, if the children have their own devices you can block their access to the device but AFAIK if you block a particular website to your ISP you cant even access this too, instead of the recent update of the windows 10 if you are using with the Windows operating system they have family settings or the family control which is more recommended to you. Most of the platform even they ask for their user's age and agreement the Terms some of the kid already knowledgeable and bypass those agreements so they can keep proceeding to the web.

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Quote from: passwordnow on August 21, 2021, 03:59:57 AM

Communication and talking with your children are very essential. You don't stay at home together without doing conversations. Actually, it's a must to talk with your children all of the time. Even on your busiest days, you've got to allot time for them and teach them what they have to do.
Because if you're not going to do that, they might do those things such as this related to the topic without your consent because they didn't know and you didn't tell.

Right, as parents must be able to give time to their children and with an approach that is often done it will make children obedient. If parents don't talk too often or give more time to their children, then children will be easy to disobey and even when there is a prohibition that parents say at least the children will be more curious about things that are forbidden at their age and they will do it secretly in the future. So I totally agree, giving our children more time to be closer is something that every parent everywhere should do.

That's parenting and very essential to do that. If you've always been with your children and you're having a good bonding with them, you're going to guide them properly.
And at all cost, you'll tell them what they should avoid and explain things that you don't want them to do such as gambling.

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Quote from: passwordnow on August 21, 2021, 03:59:57 AM

Quote from: john_nautica on August 20, 2021, 10:44:35 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on August 19, 2021, 03:24:49 PM

That's for sure but as long as you've explained why you did that and they cannot visit certain websites including the online casinos and other material that they shouldn't be visiting at their age, I think that you've done well already. Now, the next problem comes in as what you've said that they can still gain access through the help of others but as long as you've educated your kids about it. I think that they'll be obedient and they'll avoid those websites including those that are related to gambling.

You all have good points. Monitoring can be done now that children are spending most of their time online and are staying at home. But of course, instead of just restricting them to do so, a good conversation about such matter is really essential.

Communication and talking with your children are very essential. You don't stay at home together without doing conversations. Actually, it's a must to talk with your children all of the time. Even on your busiest days, you've got to allot time for them and teach them what they have to do.
Because if you're not going to do that, they might do those things such as this related to the topic without your consent because they didn't know and you didn't tell.

Actually, when your kids has a basic knowledge and know how logic works in a certain situation, no matter what topic you said to them, they will secretly do a research about it and find themselves what are the effects of gambling can do to a certain person once he started playing it, and I'm sure kids won't like it so they will never try it in the first place because they know what will happen to them if they do such thing.

That's why opening their eyes at such a young age is important. Let your kid mature at a very young age roy take care of themselves in this world.

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Quote from: passwordnow on August 21, 2021, 03:59:57 AM

Quote from: john_nautica on August 20, 2021, 10:44:35 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on August 19, 2021, 03:24:49 PM

That's for sure but as long as you've explained why you did that and they cannot visit certain websites including the online casinos and other material that they shouldn't be visiting at their age, I think that you've done well already. Now, the next problem comes in as what you've said that they can still gain access through the help of others but as long as you've educated your kids about it. I think that they'll be obedient and they'll avoid those websites including those that are related to gambling.

You all have good points. Monitoring can be done now that children are spending most of their time online and are staying at home. But of course, instead of just restricting them to do so, a good conversation about such matter is really essential.

Communication and talking with your children are very essential. You don't stay at home together without doing conversations. Actually, it's a must to talk with your children all of the time. Even on your busiest days, you've got to allot time for them and teach them what they have to do.
Because if you're not going to do that, they might do those things such as this related to the topic without your consent because they didn't know and you didn't tell.

Right, as parents must be able to give time to their children and with an approach that is often done it will make children obedient. If parents don't talk too often or give more time to their children, then children will be easy to disobey and even when there is a prohibition that parents say at least the children will be more curious about things that are forbidden at their age and they will do it secretly in the future. So I totally agree, giving our children more time to be closer is something that every parent everywhere should do.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 19, 2021, 10:30:07 PM

I have seen arguments that it is now very easy for children to access porn and online gambling. What can be done to prevent this? I don't think that it is the duty of these sites to block access to the minors. It is not practical. A few nut jobs have demanded that porn/gambling sites should perform facial verification using the webcam before granting access to any user. The real intention here is not to protect the children, but to invade on the privacy of the ordinary users. Children should not have access to uncensored internet in the first place. Porn/gambling sites should be blocked in their browser. Now it is ridiculous to ask the sites to do facial verification and all, because in that case no one is going to visit these sites.

Providing personal information to casinos and on the Internet in general is not a good idea, even if the data is collected in order to protect you. In practice, very often the personal data collected by some will fall into the hands of others and be used against you. Just recently such a story happened in Afghanistan, when the Taliban came to power began to use the information collected before them for their own purposes - https://theintercept.com/2021/08/17/afghanistan-taliban-military-biometrics/

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Quote from: john_nautica on August 20, 2021, 10:44:35 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on August 19, 2021, 03:24:49 PM

That's for sure but as long as you've explained why you did that and they cannot visit certain websites including the online casinos and other material that they shouldn't be visiting at their age, I think that you've done well already. Now, the next problem comes in as what you've said that they can still gain access through the help of others but as long as you've educated your kids about it. I think that they'll be obedient and they'll avoid those websites including those that are related to gambling.

You all have good points. Monitoring can be done now that children are spending most of their time online and are staying at home. But of course, instead of just restricting them to do so, a good conversation about such matter is really essential.

Communication and talking with your children are very essential. You don't stay at home together without doing conversations. Actually, it's a must to talk with your children all of the time. Even on your busiest days, you've got to allot time for them and teach them what they have to do.
Because if you're not going to do that, they might do those things such as this related to the topic without your consent because they didn't know and you didn't tell.

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Quote from: worldofcoins on July 29, 2021, 11:25:12 AM

These days I'm seeing many Youtubers and Twitch streamers are promoting Gambling websites [Dice, Sports Betting] and Poker Apps.

I know it's ok to gamble for having fun and socially but I don't think young people should be exposed to this when they're in school.
Most of them will only imagine "What 'IF' i win 1000x of this amount and i'll be able to do this and that"

The first thing where will they get the money, even if they get pocket money and use that to gamble then they'll slowly develop the habit of gambling disregarding short-term winnings - if they occur.

They'll pay a huge price with the tension they'll have thinking about this when their whole life is ahead.

It would be far better in terms of gambling to try and practically explain how odds work, how compounding works, what mortgages/interest rates/credit cards/debts are and how making the wrong decision (like borrowing then wasting large sums) can really affect them long term. They need to be taught some of the many tricks that put psychological pressure on them and be taught as independent thinkers, rather than simply following the crowd.

It would be a great idea indeed. I remember when we were studying probabilities at school, but it was all theoretical and extremely boring. There were imaginary dice and balloons, probabilities if picking certain ones of them, cumulative probabilities, etc. But it would have been so useful if we had the real-life approach, and were told in this module about probabilities in gambling. Maybe, it could also be part of subjects like economics or something like that.

However, education doesn’t guarantee anything. Sometimes people forget all they know when they see dollars in their eyes, social and emotional education plays an important role here, as well. I bet there are plenty of math teachers that lose in gambling as well Cheesy

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 19, 2021, 10:30:07 PM

I have seen arguments that it is now very easy for children to access porn and online gambling. What can be done to prevent this? I don't think that it is the duty of these sites to block access to the minors. It is not practical. A few nut jobs have demanded that porn/gambling sites should perform facial verification using the webcam before granting access to any user. The real intention here is not to protect the children, but to invade on the privacy of the ordinary users. Children should not have access to uncensored internet in the first place. Porn/gambling sites should be blocked in their browser. Now it is ridiculous to ask the sites to do facial verification and all, because in that case no one is going to visit these sites.

These sites cannot block any potential traffic that can go to them. But parents who cannot do that can easily watch tutorials and videos everywhere on how to block websites that they desire to block just like gambling related contents and as well as porn sites.

We don't know what these kids can do if they're holding a smartphone and tries to visit every website that they see. Especially in those websites that has ads banner on its side, we know what sometimes are popping there.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 19, 2021, 10:30:07 PM

I have seen arguments that it is now very easy for children to access porn and online gambling. What can be done to prevent this? I don't think that it is the duty of these sites to block access to the minors. It is not practical. A few nut jobs have demanded that porn/gambling sites should perform facial verification using the webcam before granting access to any user. The real intention here is not to protect the children, but to invade on the privacy of the ordinary users. Children should not have access to uncensored internet in the first place. Porn/gambling sites should be blocked in their browser. Now it is ridiculous to ask the sites to do facial verification and all, because in that case no one is going to visit these sites.

This is a standard scheme that is used everywhere to deprive citizens of basic rights - all restrictions are introduced in the name of something good "child protection", "fight against drugs" and so on. and as a result, an ordinary adult law-abiding person is deprived of privacy. I hope this pressure from politicians and corporations from the fiat world will lead to the emergence of a decentralized ecosystem where there will be no one to enforce censorship.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 17, 2021, 03:39:14 PM

Limits have to be set to avoid this possibility, most parents love their children and want for them to have what they did not had as children, but besides giving them an easy live it is also necessary to put in them the values you consider important, so it is important to teach them that there are many other ways to entertain yourself than to look at an electronic device all day, and in that case the chances they develop an addiction to gambling, social media or video games will be significantly reduced.

Keeping children away from gadgets in today's modern era is certainly a difficult thing because indeed it has become their entertainment, especially those who introduce gadgets to these children are their own parents, I see in my country even parents have bought gadgets for their children who are only 7 years old and they make excuses for their children to be busy playing games so as not to cry or disturb their parents work.
Then when we introduce something that we don't deserve to give to children, will they easily let it go?
I do not think so...!

I agree that it is a difficult thing to do especially in these times with the pandemic still around, but there are many options for kids to be entertained, however the issue is that requires the involvement of the parents and many do not want to deal with it and as such it is easier for them to give their kids an electronic device and have them sit down facing at the screen all day, but if we want to avoid this to happen to our kids then sacrifices need to be made and we must dedicate time to them so they do not develop issues due to staring at those devices all day.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 19, 2021, 10:30:07 PM

I have seen arguments that it is now very easy for children to access porn and online gambling. What can be done to prevent this? I don't think that it is the duty of these sites to block access to the minors. It is not practical. A few nut jobs have demanded that porn/gambling sites should perform facial verification using the webcam before granting access to any user. The real intention here is not to protect the children, but to invade on the privacy of the ordinary users. Children should not have access to uncensored internet in the first place. Porn/gambling sites should be blocked in their browser. Now it is ridiculous to ask the sites to do facial verification and all, because in that case no one is going to visit these sites.

One of the reason people won't allow that to happen, the security part is good but also dangerous.

Why bother allowing yourself being scan for you to access the site, it will interfere with your own security, if you intend to prevent your kids being exposed to this kind of business. Check them out it's always your obligation to know what your kids are doing when using their devices. Proper guidance will help them avoid this sites online.

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Yes any children or underage person can easily access gambling websites and we can't really control that what we can do is to supervise our children or monitor them I think there are some applications where you can limit which websites will your children can access, I think that's pretty useful in regards with streaming sites that shows gambling I think there should be a warning that it's only for 18+ users.

You can restrict that through the admin's control and access to your network or, you can simply block most of the websites you think that your children will visit through their gadgets if they own one. There's a way to block their access through it if you think that you cannot stop them. It's a choice for allowing them and make them exposed on it but if you don't want them to be exposed, you have to do something like this in order to stop them.

Yes, for some parents this is the option to stop their children from watching unsuitable material but this is not to say that they'll never watch it or even then have access to it. They can still do so from their phone or their friends phone, or through other means.

Which is why it is more important to explain the risks and why their access was limited, in this manner they're more likely to see eye to eye and understand. But for sure exposure of children to gambling is not healthy and should be avoided at all costs.

That's for sure but as long as you've explained why you did that and they cannot visit certain websites including the online casinos and other material that they shouldn't be visiting at their age, I think that you've done well already. Now, the next problem comes in as what you've said that they can still gain access through the help of others but as long as you've educated your kids about it. I think that they'll be obedient and they'll avoid those websites including those that are related to gambling.

You all have good points. Monitoring can be done now that children are spending most of their time online and are staying at home. But of course, instead of just restricting them to do so, a good conversation about such matter is really essential.

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