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But my intensity is about gambling in the metaverse. Did you think about it? What are your thoughts on gambling in the metaverse world, where you and a friend are playing at a table, but it's online, and you're sitting next to each other, but you're from different countries? Isn't it sound cool? Well, it felt cool to me. I don't know if this type of site exists or not, but in the future there will definitely be a gambling world in the metaverse. And I really want to experience that. I hope that technology comes soon.

You can already get this in a lot of video games, just without monetary value.

I personally think that it's not that groundbreaking. I would rather enjoy something that is broadcast live to me on a live casino app rather than some sort of metaverse with really bad quality graphics that would require me to fully immerse myself in the virtual world to leverage.

Although, some items in the metaverse such as NFTs could be useful as loyalty tokens for casinos.

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why there is a need of metaverse when there is already an universe. I wonder why people join these metaverse things rather than enjoying with reality.I've tried this metaverse poker room and I thought time was paused, so it takes much more time than gambling in reality and the feelings are same while playing.

Look, I believe that most of the time when a disruptive technology is created, there can be a huge interest on the part of the human being in wanting to use this technology.
Maybe there may be people who don't like to socialize, avoid crowded or busy places, and therefore, these people prefer to "live in their world".

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Maybe that's why I don't like it, but I have a some strange feeling about these metaverse things,I mean some social-economical aspects because it may be more addictive than its now.

I also don't know more about using this metaverse even though I've skimmed through its tools, but I don't think I'm interested either. Yes, I also think it will be more addictive for the users and they will be busier to use the metaverse tools because their world is connected to the metaverse. Maybe later, there will be a shift in social values between humans where we will rarely meet in person but only through virtual.

What we see in a futuristic movie may happen in our lives in the next era and I guess that will not take too long as the new technology is already invented.

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why there is a need of metaverse when there is already an universe. I wonder why people join these metaverse things rather than enjoying with reality.I've tried this metaverse poker room and I thought time was paused, so it takes much more time than gambling in reality and the feelings are same while playing.

Maybe it is not a need because we are still using others, but if what is in this world is slowly replaced by new things, it will become a need while still in the universe. I guess people join the metaverse stuff out of curiosity about what it looks like and want to feel it. Maybe at this time, there is still a lot that needs to be updated so that Metaverse can run well and it will take time for users to feel it well. So maybe we can use a gambling site that we already use while waiting for Metaverse to get a better update.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on March 19, 2022, 06:56:14 PM

The possibility of creating a metaverse casino without any license is always there, because they will point out the reason that it is decentralized.

Before we discuss decentralization and centralization we must first discuss metaverse when it will be set up and its structure, it doesn't matter if the metaverse casino is centralized or decentralized as long as it is bug-free and there's no issue about deposit withdrawal and fairness once there's no issue the centralize or decentralize we will judge if metaverse is worth as a good replacement to the traditional online casino.

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 20, 2022, 04:31:37 AM

In reality, usually no one wants to once again provide their personal data to anyone and never.
This is a necessary measure after the Americans are bastards in 2016! introduced KYC procedures. And everyone is now forced to send their passports, Addresses to the Internet. Moreover, sometimes they even require receipts for utilities. Angry

And no MetaUniverses will be able to cancel this whole bureaucracy now. And in many cases, the person would prefer to remain anonymous.
But, unfortunately, it's getting harder and harder. And soon it won't be possible at all. Of course, this will not be possible in the metaverses. And on gambling sites, too, things are getting worse in terms of anonymity.

I would like in the future of the gambling industry to be able to remain anonymous. Including when receiving winnings on your account. I just think that the American regulators and other regulators subject to them will not allow this.

Many of the crypto user don't want to undergo a KYC verification especially if the gambling sites are a crypto gambling sites. This KYC verification may be a breach to one of the rule of crypto of anonymous however even myself I don't want to undergo KYC. I haven't tried to gamble inside the metaverse and I do want to try it too however if KYC will be the requirement to finally trued gambling inside metaverse maybe I will think about it.

Are metaverses regulated in any way? Why do they need KYC?
Maybe it will turn out like with an ICO at one time, when they forcibly collected user data, and then sold them on the black market.
It will be the same here. Therefore, while the metaverse is the "wild west", there is no need to pass any KYC there. This is just a deception of users.

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 20, 2022, 04:31:37 AM

In reality, usually no one wants to once again provide their personal data to anyone and never.
This is a necessary measure after the Americans are bastards in 2016! introduced KYC procedures. And everyone is now forced to send their passports, Addresses to the Internet. Moreover, sometimes they even require receipts for utilities. Angry

And no MetaUniverses will be able to cancel this whole bureaucracy now. And in many cases, the person would prefer to remain anonymous.
But, unfortunately, it's getting harder and harder. And soon it won't be possible at all. Of course, this will not be possible in the metaverses. And on gambling sites, too, things are getting worse in terms of anonymity.

I would like in the future of the gambling industry to be able to remain anonymous. Including when receiving winnings on your account. I just think that the American regulators and other regulators subject to them will not allow this.

Many of the crypto user don't want to undergo a KYC verification especially if the gambling sites are a crypto gambling sites. This KYC verification may be a breach to one of the rule of crypto of anonymous however even myself I don't want to undergo KYC. I haven't tried to gamble inside the metaverse and I do want to try it too however if KYC will be the requirement to finally trued gambling inside metaverse maybe I will think about it.

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In reality, usually no one wants to once again provide their personal data to anyone and never.
This is a necessary measure after the Americans are bastards in 2016! introduced KYC procedures. And everyone is now forced to send their passports, Addresses to the Internet. Moreover, sometimes they even require receipts for utilities. Angry

And no MetaUniverses will be able to cancel this whole bureaucracy now. And in many cases, the person would prefer to remain anonymous.
But, unfortunately, it's getting harder and harder. And soon it won't be possible at all. Of course, this will not be possible in the metaverses. And on gambling sites, too, things are getting worse in terms of anonymity.

I would like in the future of the gambling industry to be able to remain anonymous. Including when receiving winnings on your account. I just think that the American regulators and other regulators subject to them will not allow this.

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Quote from: harizen on March 19, 2022, 06:51:14 PM

Quote from: magneto on March 19, 2022, 03:07:43 PM

I feel like on decentralized metaverses there is going to be a lot more operators willing to open up unregulated casinos, often because they can no longer be traced back to an actual name registering a license/domain.

Is this even possible? For a company that will establish a casino that will be associated with Metaverse or not, it's a must that they should register as a legit company regardless of what they are, be it centralized or decentralized. In the first place, there will be no users that will try unregulated casinos due to the fact that it's anonymous.

Can we trust our money to these kinds of operators or related services?

Or maybe I mislead with the statement. Am I right with my response here?

I backed your response I don't see a metaverse gambling site will be better being unregulated why it will be unregulated every country has jurisdiction on what should be in their webspace and they have jurisdiction over their people when it comes to gambling, it will be hard for a new concept to be unregulated the government will always have a take a look on it and they might even block it or prosecute it's operators I don't see any harm on metaverse gambling so why make it unregulated.

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Quote from: harizen on March 19, 2022, 06:51:14 PM

Quote from: magneto on March 19, 2022, 03:07:43 PM

I feel like on decentralized metaverses there is going to be a lot more operators willing to open up unregulated casinos, often because they can no longer be traced back to an actual name registering a license/domain.

Is this even possible? For a company that will establish a casino that will be associated with Metaverse or not, it's a must that they should register as a legit company regardless of what they are, be it centralized or decentralized. In the first place, there will be no users that will try unregulated casinos due to the fact that it's anonymous.

Can we trust our money to these kinds of operators or related services?

Or maybe I mislead with the statement. Am I right with my response here?

They can always get their audience even if they are not licensed, depending on their marketing.
Remember, there are several long-running casinos in the forum without a license.
But for new players, would be hard to gain credibility from the community.
If you are a player, definitely, you want a credible casino to play with as many scammers are now in operations.
The possibility of creating a metaverse casino without any license is always there, because they will point out the reason that it is decentralized.

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Quote from: magneto on March 19, 2022, 03:07:43 PM

I feel like on decentralized metaverses there is going to be a lot more operators willing to open up unregulated casinos, often because they can no longer be traced back to an actual name registering a license/domain.

Is this even possible? For a company that will establish a casino that will be associated with Metaverse or not, it's a must that they should register as a legit company regardless of what they are, be it centralized or decentralized. In the first place, there will be no users that will try unregulated casinos due to the fact that it's anonymous.

Can we trust our money to these kinds of operators or related services?

Or maybe I mislead with the statement. Am I right with my response here?

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 19, 2022, 09:00:08 AM

Regardless of there's a Metaverse touch on our gambling experience, that verification will still be the same.

I do not believe the verification level will be the same, I watched an animated movie which is meant for kids called 'Ron gone wrong'. In the movie, certain robots are built which individual kids can give instruction even for online activities by just speaking with the robots, later it was known that the company that built the robots is also using it to invade the private lives of the kids (which is definitely beyond verification). Metaverse can also be like that in a way to go beyond verification but also in a way there can be more privacy invasion. Metaverse has just started, I believe there will be more knowing about it later an how what is happening in universe is far better.

In my view data is money. Whether it is Metaverse or something beyond this innovation, there'll be need of verification. In specific if one can be controlled or his mind thoughts were read, automatically he'll be directed towards his needs. This is how the market works and Metaverse isn't an exception. Maybe something without KYC can operate, but end of the day it'll breach into privacy through some other means.

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Well, it's an entire technology that can really disrupt how we perceive things through the web. And with such interactions, we'll be able to see other adoptions that can go through with it.
That's not just for gambling but with other marketplaces as well we're everyone can have social life through that metaverse and gambling and casinos are just another place to go.

Yes this is true!
I believe what can be implemented and what can be improved in this "universe" of the Metaverse (VR) is how our interaction will be within this new world.

I imagine that this will be in constant modification and improvement, from using VR in supermarkets to shopping, gambling, going to a football or soccer game inside the stadium, personal meetings on social networks and many other things pertinent to this new world that we we will probably experience!

Almost in every day to day living, it will make a change and it's applicable. In gambling, there's a new look at it and based from those ideas that I've seen.
It's going to be an exciting and new way to not just gamble but also socialize with other people where you're in the same platform and metaverse that you're part with.

Yes, I believe this will be a matter of time.

For example, with all this problem worldwide, we are seeing that the fundamentals of Bitcoin are intact, especially in countries that are in crisis (Russia, Ukraine and others).
Bitcoin is limited, decentralized, the government can't "ban" it in a way, and BTC has no barriers.
(I don't have friends and I don't know people who live in Russia or Ukraine), but I believe that one of the only ways out for citizens who are in a conflicted country is to use cryptoassets. (especially Bitcoin, which is widely known, is the pioneer, and has limited supply)

This will be a matter of time, I believe that soon the Metaverse will be present today.
It will all be a matter of time and people's adoptability.
Of course, if it's accessible to everyone and it's not an extremely expensive technology.

Another example I would like to share is related to interactions, such as Playstation Home (I don't know if anyone here still remembers), but it was something similar to Second Life that we (users) had an avatar within the platform created by Sony in Playstation 3.

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Quote from: magneto on March 19, 2022, 03:07:43 PM

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 19, 2022, 03:33:50 AM

Metaverse can never be good for decentralization, everything about it will be regulated in a way people's data can be easily accessible to the government. If possible there would be gambling sites on Metaverse, all of them will have to comply to the rules of mandating their customers to verify before making use of their metaverse gambling service.

Prior to this metaverse stuff, we can now feel that centralization is now hitting up crypto-gambling sites today. There are now sites that involve KYC and big winnings are subject to identity verification before a user can claim which should not be a requirement since that's what crypto-gambling is all about anonymity.

Since crypto-gambling sites have no choice but to comply with it, in the first place, to make their business legit, they should follow the law, we also don't have a choice but to follow.

Regardless of there's a Metaverse touch on our gambling experience, that verification will still be the same.

I'm not sure.

I feel like on decentralized metaverses there is going to be a lot more operators willing to open up unregulated casinos, often because they can no longer be traced back to an actual name registering a license/domain.

That could be a benefit for people - that plus the trustlessness of having a non-custodial model of on-chain gaming. It's honestly not a bad idea if you think about it.

You can talking about unregulated casinos.... How can that be possible if the government wants to regulate everything? Let's be real, even crypto which is decentralized by nature is not even exempted, the government would always want to have a slice of the pie, and without regulation where would they put their control?

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 19, 2022, 09:00:08 AM

Quote from: Oshosondy on March 19, 2022, 03:33:50 AM

Metaverse can never be good for decentralization, everything about it will be regulated in a way people's data can be easily accessible to the government. If possible there would be gambling sites on Metaverse, all of them will have to comply to the rules of mandating their customers to verify before making use of their metaverse gambling service.

Prior to this metaverse stuff, we can now feel that centralization is now hitting up crypto-gambling sites today. There are now sites that involve KYC and big winnings are subject to identity verification before a user can claim which should not be a requirement since that's what crypto-gambling is all about anonymity.

Since crypto-gambling sites have no choice but to comply with it, in the first place, to make their business legit, they should follow the law, we also don't have a choice but to follow.

Regardless of there's a Metaverse touch on our gambling experience, that verification will still be the same.

I'm not sure.

I feel like on decentralized metaverses there is going to be a lot more operators willing to open up unregulated casinos, often because they can no longer be traced back to an actual name registering a license/domain.

That could be a benefit for people - that plus the trustlessness of having a non-custodial model of on-chain gaming. It's honestly not a bad idea if you think about it.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 19, 2022, 09:00:08 AM

Regardless of there's a Metaverse touch on our gambling experience, that verification will still be the same.

I do not believe the verification level will be the same, I watched an animated movie which is meant for kids called 'Ron gone wrong'. In the movie, certain robots are built which individual kids can give instruction even for online activities by just speaking with the robots, later it was known that the company that built the robots is also using it to invade the private lives of the kids (which is definitely beyond verification). Metaverse can also be like that in a way to go beyond verification but also in a way there can be more privacy invasion. Metaverse has just started, I believe there will be more knowing about it later an how what is happening in universe is far better.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 19, 2022, 03:33:50 AM

Metaverse can never be good for decentralization, everything about it will be regulated in a way people's data can be easily accessible to the government. If possible there would be gambling sites on Metaverse, all of them will have to comply to the rules of mandating their customers to verify before making use of their metaverse gambling service.

Prior to this metaverse stuff, we can now feel that centralization is now hitting up crypto-gambling sites today. There are now sites that involve KYC and big winnings are subject to identity verification before a user can claim which should not be a requirement since that's what crypto-gambling is all about anonymity.

Since crypto-gambling sites have no choice but to comply with it, in the first place, to make their business legit, they should follow the law, we also don't have a choice but to follow.

Regardless of there's a Metaverse touch on our gambling experience, that verification will still be the same.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 19, 2022, 03:33:50 AM

Quote from: decodx on March 19, 2022, 02:55:23 AM

So, one metaverse will be the best? Probably not. You have to have a way to choose one. Perhaps the top world will be an app store with many Metaverses there, where you will be able to choose the one you are the most comfortable with.

I even expect the name to change on day as Facebook like to claim ownership as he changed its parent company name from Facebook to Meta.

Quote from: decodx on March 19, 2022, 02:55:23 AM

Is this something that could be good for the decentralization movement?

Metaverse can never be good for decentralization, everything about it will be regulated in a way people's data can be easily accessible to the government. If possible there would be gambling sites on Metaverse, all of them will have to comply to the rules of mandating their customers to verify before making use of their metaverse gambling service.

Our common and unique Universe is created by nature, or by God, whatever you like. But she is only one and she is unique!
All these MetaUniverses, of which there are already about 200, are created by certain teams of programmers and marketers. And they are by no means unique. There can be no question of any decentralization here. All these supposedly "decentralizations" are all advertising features and another option to earn more for this team itself. In order to produce the next krtpto-whales, of which there are already too many.
So I am skeptical about the procedures of first finding the metaverse you like, and then searching for different casinos in it.
All this is double work and a waste of time, which is better to devote to playing in the casinos that already exist and you love just on the Global Internet.

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Quote from: decodx on March 19, 2022, 02:55:23 AM

So, one metaverse will be the best? Probably not. You have to have a way to choose one. Perhaps the top world will be an app store with many Metaverses there, where you will be able to choose the one you are the most comfortable with.

I even expect the name to change on day as Facebook like to claim ownership as he changed its parent company name from Facebook to Meta.

Quote from: decodx on March 19, 2022, 02:55:23 AM

Is this something that could be good for the decentralization movement?

Metaverse can never be good for decentralization, everything about it will be regulated in a way people's data can be easily accessible to the government. If possible there would be gambling sites on Metaverse, all of them will have to comply to the rules of mandating their customers to verify before making use of their metaverse gambling service.

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Metaverse as in in Facebook Metaverse? Do you think they would allow gambling site to operate in the Facebook Metaverse? I don't think so besides any users can access that and underage users is no exemption and can probably access gambling in metaverse I don't think there would be a gambling in Metaverse but it depends what kind of rules or law they will implement to prevent minor users to access gambling in Metaverse.

Oh, definitely not.

I think that there is virtually no way that you're going to see FB be willing to host any sort of gambling activity on their platform. But at the same time, is that the only metaverse that is out there?

Most certainly not. And I do think that increasingly, as Web3 becomes more established, that we will indeed see increased interest in metaverse casinos (e.g. on Decentraland).

It confuses me that different teams of devs develop many metaverses. There are already more than a hundred of them. And which of these metaverses will be the most important? This is also important because why even run around different metaverses in web3 and look for the casino that suits you, when it is much easier to go to the site of a particular casino in our main non-virtual but physical universe of the global Internet.
Now It's just a fashion on Web3 and nothing more. It's such entertainment to waste your precious time wandering aimlessly between the metaverses and pay a little for these dubious "pleasures".

A similar situation was in the early days of the Internet and development of the www, there were many teams and companies developing their websites, but all followed the same default rules and all worked in all browsers. One could see that this resulted in a huge step toward standards and getting many websites closer to each other.

So, one metaverse will be the best? Probably not. You have to have a way to choose one. Perhaps the top world will be an app store with many Metaverses there, where you will be able to choose the one you are the most comfortable with.

Is this something that could be good for the decentralization movement?

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