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Quote from: klidex on June 03, 2023, 03:01:10 PM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 03, 2023, 01:45:53 PM

Topic as the op have been discussed several time on this forum, but then, it's like a warning that we must not stop sounding so gamblers never forget about it, so I pretty much agree with everything the Op said..
A steady income can never be achieved through gambling, except of course you own the casino, the best way to enjoy gambling is to always consider it one of the way you have fun, and having fun sometimes requires you spending your money,, so see having fun as a service you have to pay for, and see money lost to gambling as payment for the service - a pretty easy way to deal with gambling loses.

I fully support what you say.
It is absolutely true that there is no room for people who think that gambling is a place of income, even though gambling is built for the benefit of gambling owners, so it is impossible for gambling to be used as a field for earning income unless you have your own casino.
We should understand this kind of awareness so that we don't always expect any profit from gambling except for pleasure.

As long as casinos exist there will be people which may think about ways to try to beat them at their own games, a lousy proposition without a doubt but that is not going to stop people from trying, what I find the most incredibly about the whole situation is that after some losses those people should change their ways and understand this is not possible, and yet most of the time the opposite happens, as they believe that the more they try the higher the chances of turning things around, a false belief of course.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on June 03, 2023, 05:06:43 AM

We shared the same belief, I also think that skill-based games can't be won continuously by luck alone, as a matter of fact, there is a high chance of winning using skill in this kind of gambling reason why they are called skill-based game. Winning through sheer luck in a skill based-game can be considered as a fluke and may be hard to duplicate unlike winning with skill.

Correct. If he really wants to cure his gambling addiction, he will try hard to heal himself by following the recovery program. It will never be easy to cure gambling addicts but it is a self recovery program for gambling addiction that gambling addicts can follow.

Quote from: lionheart78 on June 03, 2023, 05:06:43 AM

Well, a gamblers addict's recovery should start within himself. There should be acceptance and acknowledgment that he is a gambling addict and is in need of medication. If in denial, his body and mind will reject the medication process, and might result in a waste of time and finances. But as a family, we should not give up, we should persevere in encouraging the gambling-addicted kin to undergo medication.

It's not easy to get a gambling addict to admit that he is addicted to gambling and needs help. But we must not give up hope of bringing him to a rehab center so he can cure his gambling addiction. We can make him realize that he has a gambling addiction and it must be cured for his own good. Later he will surely realize that he is not alone and finally wants to undergo a self-recovery program from gambling addiction.

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Quote from: blockman on June 03, 2023, 03:07:21 PM

Even if you don't gamble and you're just for affiliates, the commission isn't also stable and you get rarely active referrals if you're good at getting those people.
Yes, it's true that gambling as a source isn't gonna give a steady income even the professional ones are having a bad day so as those that just do this out of entertainment.

Can a none gambler earn in affiliate rewards, I thought affiliate earnings are calculated based on the activities of both the affiliate and his downline, I have a friend who is into inflate programme and most of the time I always see him being constantly in the touch with the his downlines and always encouraging them to become more active on the casino.

And I believe that is the way he generates his income added to his activities and ranks in the casino.

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Even if you don't gamble and you're just for affiliates, the commission isn't also stable and you get rarely active referrals if you're good at getting those people.
Yes, it's true that gambling as a source isn't gonna give a steady income even the professional ones are having a bad day so as those that just do this out of entertainment.

Quote from: Wiwo on June 03, 2023, 02:02:02 PM

Some are ready to risk even their life on such things that are not guaranteed like taking gambling as means of gaining a steady income which is not realistic.

It's already a gamble and they're like YOLOing with chances and that's why they're trying.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 03, 2023, 01:45:53 PM

Topic as the op have been discussed several time on this forum, but then, it's like a warning that we must not stop sounding so gamblers never forget about it, so I pretty much agree with everything the Op said..
A steady income can never be achieved through gambling, except of course you own the casino, the best way to enjoy gambling is to always consider it one of the way you have fun, and having fun sometimes requires you spending your money,, so see having fun as a service you have to pay for, and see money lost to gambling as payment for the service - a pretty easy way to deal with gambling loses.

I fully support what you say.
It is absolutely true that there is no room for people who think that gambling is a place of income, even though gambling is built for the benefit of gambling owners, so it is impossible for gambling to be used as a field for earning income unless you have your own casino.
We should understand this kind of awareness so that we don't always expect any profit from gambling except for pleasure.

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Taking gambling as a source of income is gambling in itself, just as we have mentioned on several threads that discuss similar topic such as this, we have constantly warned gamblers not to take gambling too seriously even though some people may not listen to this advice it becomes obvious that it is not easy to perfectly manage humans since we have diverse interest and perspective about things.

Some are ready to risk even their life on such things that are not guaranteed like taking gambling as means of gaining a steady income which is not realistic.

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Topic as the op have been discussed several time on this forum, but then, it's like a warning that we must not stop sounding so gamblers never forget about it, so I pretty much agree with everything the Op said..
A steady income can never be achieved through gambling, except of course you own the casino, the best way to enjoy gambling is to always consider it one of the way you have fun, and having fun sometimes requires you spending your money,, so see having fun as a service you have to pay for, and see money lost to gambling as payment for the service - a pretty easy way to deal with gambling loses.

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Quote from: dezoel on June 03, 2023, 12:02:04 PM

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 02, 2023, 03:16:00 PM

Few people have been lucky enough to become filthy rich through gambling. Did these people take gambling as a form of job until they eventually became rich? We may never know though.

The best thing about gambling to keep you from being addicted is to have a trusted person who you can talk to about your gambling. It is part of being a responsible gambler.

I think most who take gambling consider it as a job and others just pure leisure and if by chance luck do hit on them, they become rich in it, though it's likely hitting a moon with stick or a rare case. I think I agree on that since most gamblers are likely keeping it on themselves and they tend to stick to the habit and they got addicted. I wonder who are in their right mind that thinks gambling is a way to have an steady income, literally it is not.

A guy once shared a story here in the forum that a person from his neighborhood won something big from gambling and it made him think that he is now going to just earn money from gambling because he won for almost three consecutive days and he thought he can do it every day, so he started living a luxurious life, even left his job only to become a full-time gambler.

Soon after, he lost everything that he had left after enjoying his life for some time and then came back to earth from his flight to the skies with happiness and he had to start asking for money from others only so that he can eat food. That is what happens when you consider gambling a source of income.

Yes, i was able to read up that thread about quitting up his job just because he had made out so much money with gambling and he do believe that he could really be able to make himself rich and able to sustain forever until the time comes when reality slap into his face on whats the real deal with this kind of stuff specially if its attached with gambling.We know that there's no such thing about constant or sustainability
on making wins on gambling. You would really be might having those impressions on the time that you would really be winning up some bets and on a consecutive manner, then this is where you would really be making yourself having that kind of boost up and perceptions that this would be it on the thing that would be changing up your life.

On the time that reality kicks in or simply on the time that it would be starting to have those losses then you would be starting up on taking back those winnings earlier, and since you do have that kind of
impression that you might be lucky on next bet then this is where you would really be continuing on playing until you do lose it all. This is where regret would comes and kicked
in which its not really a shocking scenario for most gamblers.

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Quote from: Shamm on June 03, 2023, 08:22:13 AM

Quote from: darkangel11 on June 03, 2023, 07:26:31 AM

The real problem starts when you want to keep gambling but at the same time not become and addict. It's easy to stay away and stop yourself from becoming an addict but very hard to remain a casual gambler who is constantly in touch with the game, always tempted, but never bets over the limit, never stays in the game for too long. Very little people can achieve this level of self-control. Most of us, if we keep casually gambling for a few years, will start falling into addiction. That's why, if you have trouble controlling yourself, the best way to approach gambling is to do it with friends and make sure you watch one another.

Gamble with friends see fun and also there is a good thing if we gamble with our friends aside of it's being fun then we can not get into addict. Cause you and your friends will look each other and if one of you over the limit then one of your friends will let you know. But gamble alone is the higher percentage of being addicted anyways its up to us is let our self became an addict or not it's better to control our self especially in our emotions .

I don't think friends can stop a gambler when he is furious that he has lost more money than he planned and continues to play in order to win back his losses. I have seen many times in casinos my friends in such a state. I tell you frankly, it seems that at this point a person shuts down brain activity.

In my opinion, it is much better to learn to control yourself. It's hard enough to do, but when you do, you will gamble in a completely different way.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 03, 2023, 05:31:39 AM

Because we can't assure wins every day. Because in the first place, whether it was skilled-based games or pure luck-based games, nothing would change the fact that gambling is just a sort of entertainment, not a source of income. That is why I feel bad for those who are chasing their luck in gambling and relying on their future. Many people become addicted, many people keep buying lottery tickets, and some people spend more money on gambling rather than prioritizing their needs. Actually, it was not a big mistake to gamble but also we must know our limitations.

But we cannot change their way of thinking, if they still believe that gambling will be the easiest way for them to live and to earn money then they should themselves clear their mindset because that is not the right thing. People will always look for easier way to live and they forget that gambling is made for entertainment as well not only for supplying their everyday needs just like what they are expecting.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 02, 2023, 07:57:35 PM

Quote from: alastantiger on June 02, 2023, 03:16:00 PM

Few people have been lucky enough to become filthy rich through gambling. Did these people take gambling as a form of job until they eventually became rich? We may never know though.

The best thing about gambling to keep you from being addicted is to have a trusted person who you can talk to about your gambling. It is part of being a responsible gambler.

I think most who take gambling consider it as a job and others just pure leisure and if by chance luck do hit on them, they become rich in it, though it's likely hitting a moon with stick or a rare case. I think I agree on that since most gamblers are likely keeping it on themselves and they tend to stick to the habit and they got addicted. I wonder who are in their right mind that thinks gambling is a way to have an steady income, literally it is not.

A guy once shared a story here in the forum that a person from his neighborhood won something big from gambling and it made him think that he is now going to just earn money from gambling because he won for almost three consecutive days and he thought he can do it every day, so he started living a luxurious life, even left his job only to become a full-time gambler.

Soon after, he lost everything that he had left after enjoying his life for some time and then came back to earth from his flight to the skies with happiness and he had to start asking for money from others only so that he can eat food. That is what happens when you consider gambling a source of income.

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You are right. Gambling should never be seen as a steady source of money to pay your bills. It's just a form of entertainment with a lot of thrill, but not your regular day job that gives you at least some sort of sense of financial security. Always remember that the house always has an edge, and in the long run, the odds will always be stacked against you and you will end up losing. Always know your limits, and don't chase losses. Consider it as a form of paid entertainment. If you stop having fun and it starts stressing you, then stop, leave and never return.

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- Not everyone who enters a casino is sane. Those who play gambling just for fun and for no other reason. And if there are Gamblers who think that this is a major source of income, this is a false belief and method.

Because I agree with what you said that gambling is a place where you are sure to lose your money easily, here what you said is true because most of those who enter it lose and the winners are only counted on our fingers big amount.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on June 03, 2023, 07:26:31 AM

The real problem starts when you want to keep gambling but at the same time not become and addict. It's easy to stay away and stop yourself from becoming an addict but very hard to remain a casual gambler who is constantly in touch with the game, always tempted, but never bets over the limit, never stays in the game for too long. Very little people can achieve this level of self-control. Most of us, if we keep casually gambling for a few years, will start falling into addiction. That's why, if you have trouble controlling yourself, the best way to approach gambling is to do it with friends and make sure you watch one another.

Gamble with friends see fun and also there is a good thing if we gamble with our friends aside of it's being fun then we can not get into addict. Cause you and your friends will look each other and if one of you over the limit then one of your friends will let you know. But gamble alone is the higher percentage of being addicted anyways its up to us is let our self became an addict or not it's better to control our self especially in our emotions .

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Quote from: Wiwo on May 31, 2023, 12:28:51 PM

That is very correct, if we gamble moderately it won't have any effect on our well-being, and as a matter of fact, gambling should be done in moderation and at the same time in principle.
Also, we must constantly consider the place of addiction in gambling since it can influence our total well-being if we don't do it in moderation.

The real problem starts when you want to keep gambling but at the same time not become and addict. It's easy to stay away and stop yourself from becoming an addict but very hard to remain a casual gambler who is constantly in touch with the game, always tempted, but never bets over the limit, never stays in the game for too long. Very little people can achieve this level of self-control. Most of us, if we keep casually gambling for a few years, will start falling into addiction. That's why, if you have trouble controlling yourself, the best way to approach gambling is to do it with friends and make sure you watch one another.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 02, 2023, 11:41:53 AM

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Quote from: Falconer on June 01, 2023, 11:49:27 AM

I do not like to gamble, of course if rich is the goal. Gambling should be something that is fun especially something that is entertaining regardless of whether it is slots or other sports betting

Just few percentage of people are gambling just for fun now, higher percentage are gambling because they want to be making money for survival from gambling, and other are gambling to get rich, that's why most people easily get addicted to gambling when they start gambling, their target is to get rich from gambling, and if you are having that kind of target, then you get addicted easily because you won't want to give up even when you are losing money, that's why it's just better we gamble just for fun.

It's hard to be a gambler whose sole goal is to have fun, even if you had such a plan from the start. I did, but after a while the addiction kicked in and took a toll on my budget. Oh, I realize it's just experience, but after that I started to work around this by reducing the intensity of gambling. In the end I succeeded, yes I succeeded in becoming a responsible gambler even though I could still lose bets.

So even if someone does not gamble for fun, but when they are able to take responsibility for their gambling then it is a great option for a gambler to have. Get rid of the gambling rich plan, it's not the most likely plan to come true.

I am not entirely sure if I am addicted or not, so I am not going to go on and act like I can give life lessons to anyone. But I put a limit to my budget on gambling, I said I will not pass this amount, and for the past 7-8 years I have never been above that level, even with such huge inflation, that number has been stable for that many years, it is much smaller on what it can buy today, and yet I am not increasing it.

Does that mean everything is perfect? Of course not, it has been 8 years and I am still gambling, which means I failed to stop, and that's a type of addiction without a doubt. But the difference is that I did not lose more than I bargained for, I put a limit and always stopped there whenever I gambled, so even if it's an addiction, it's not a terrible one.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 03, 2023, 05:31:39 AM

Because we can't assure wins every day. Because in the first place, whether it was skilled-based games or pure luck-based games, nothing would change the fact that gambling is just a sort of entertainment, not a source of income. That is why I feel bad for those who are chasing their luck in gambling and relying on their future. Many people become addicted, many people keep buying lottery tickets, and some people spend more money on gambling rather than prioritizing their needs. Actually, it was not a big mistake to gamble but also we must know our limitations.

limiting yourself to always think of gambling as just a place to seek pleasure would be better. I mean by thinking that gambling is just a place for fun and realizing that there will be no big advantage from gambling except luck, surely someone will avoid addiction.
most people who are addicted to them have negative mindsets such as assuming that there will be something big that he will get from gambling or always thinking about big wins from gambling which causes curiosity to increase and dopamine in the brain also increases which causes a person to be addicted to gambling.
so always get in the habit of thinking that nothing will benefit from gambling it will get better.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on June 02, 2023, 12:54:26 AM

Quote from: KiaKia on May 31, 2023, 03:40:17 AM

Gambling places are not for steady income, if you want steady income with gambling, online or offline, you have to be a owner, build your own casino and watch yourself growing up into a filthy rich billionaire.

Online casinos are places where it's certain that you will lose your money, it's a place where you need to be mentality sane to at least have a good ride and experience as you progress, it's not always about making money with gambling, it's always about not ending up running insane because of gambling.

To make this happen, you need to discipline yourself up, make sure you set some rules on how you will handle gambling every day and how much you are willing to risk on gambling every day or else you will end up in the gutter, with full regrets.

That's if you are not even addicted to gambling already, a addicted gambler always have one goal in mind, '( I have to make back all I have lost ), this is where the beginning of the end begins.

absolutely, and in simple term, you cannot presume a predictable income and steadily if your source is playing the casino with a very unpredictable and unsteady result. You can either win big one time and then lose it all the next if you gamble irresponsibly. If you want the result to be consistent, it's true to manage a casino, or at least manage your gambling like a casino. Treating ievery bet on a series of it not individually, YOu just your wins as a whole. You could have a losing day but overall a wining month. That's what I mean. You can only do that if you manage risk well and you have your gambling systematized.

Because we can't assure wins every day. Because in the first place, whether it was skilled-based games or pure luck-based games, nothing would change the fact that gambling is just a sort of entertainment, not a source of income. That is why I feel bad for those who are chasing their luck in gambling and relying on their future. Many people become addicted, many people keep buying lottery tickets, and some people spend more money on gambling rather than prioritizing their needs. Actually, it was not a big mistake to gamble but also we must know our limitations.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 02, 2023, 11:41:53 AM

I understand that the luck factor has an influence on a gambler's win or loss. I'm not going to dispute that assumption, but when they say skill-based gambling is won 100% by luck, that's wrong and I don't agree with it.

We shared the same belief, I also think that skill-based games can't be won continuously by luck alone, as a matter of fact, there is a high chance of winning using skill in this kind of gambling reason why they are called skill-based game. Winning through sheer luck in a skill based-game can be considered as a fluke and may be hard to duplicate unlike winning with skill.

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Agree with what you say. Those who are addicted to gambling think that way and no one can change it but themselves. Even though they have lost many games, they don't seem to care because they continue to gamble. If they could reflect on what they have experienced while playing gambling, they would regret having spent a lot of money gambling and pursuing victory.

To cure people who are addicted to gambling are almost very difficult and even life will end in much worse. Gambling will have problems if people do not have a job and will continue to hallucinate to get a victory, so it will sell all the assets they have to play gambling every day. This mindset will produce a big impact on someone, moreover there are no restrictions when they are involved in gambling.

But it's different from people who have a big business and people who gamble on the basis of awareness in enjoying gambling, because most of them only spend time having fun with their friends and colleagues. Sometimes they get a jeckpot when gambling and placing a big bet so that it gets a win over the big bet.

It might be difficult to help cure them, but we have to keep trying because he needs help from others to escape his gambling addiction. Maybe we can talk to him privately to find out how bad his gambling addiction is so we can figure out where to start. After that, we can ask for help from professionals if we really don't find a way and while accompanying him to visit professionals, we must be able to convince him that we will not leave him.

The time of recovery of gambling addicts is dependent on the will of the patient and how he will react on the administered recovery program. Many say that self-acknowledgment of being a gambling addict is much easier to cure than those who are in denial.

Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 03, 2023, 05:46:04 AM

But we also can't force him to cure his gambling addiction when he refuses our help and chooses to be alone. But we might be able to seek other help from the people around him so that they give their attention to that person so that he can accept our explanation that he has a gambling addiction and must be cured immediately.

Well, a gamblers addict's recovery should start within himself. There should be acceptance and acknowledgment that he is a gambling addict and is in need of medication. If in denial, his body and mind will reject the medication process, and might result in a waste of time and finances. But as a family, we should not give up, we should persevere in encouraging the gambling-addicted kin to undergo medication.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 02, 2023, 07:57:35 PM

Quote from: alastantiger on June 02, 2023, 03:16:00 PM

Few people have been lucky enough to become filthy rich through gambling. Did these people take gambling as a form of job until they eventually became rich? We may never know though.

The best thing about gambling to keep you from being addicted is to have a trusted person who you can talk to about your gambling. It is part of being a responsible gambler.

I think most who take gambling consider it as a job and others just pure leisure and if by chance luck do hit on them, they become rich in it, though it's likely hitting a moon with stick or a rare case. I think I agree on that since most gamblers are likely keeping it on themselves and they tend to stick to the habit and they got addicted. I wonder who are in their right mind that thinks gambling is a way to have an steady income, literally it is not.

We consciously understand that in gambling we will get more losses than gains, and in that conscious state we make gambling a steady income, I question the awareness? Gambling is simply not a place to make money, unless we are the owners of the casino itself. But when we only come to play, then making gambling as income, it is a bad decision.

Many people have said that gambling is a place to have fun and even then there are limits that we must not cross. From this we should know that gambling is only for people who are ready to lose, not for people who are looking for income.

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