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Quote from: leea-1334 on March 31, 2020, 07:54:24 AM

Quote from: samcrypto on March 30, 2020, 06:42:05 PM

Exactly, whales are just laughing to those who are selling on panic because whales can buy big again. We have to do the same thing and don’t ever think that bitcoin is over or even the whole cryptomarket because we are talking about big money here and a lot of big whales will not let this market die, this is just a down trend but not a game over.

Whales are laughing all the time and every time,,, they sell at X price as much as they can and everyone else panics,,, then they buy the dip and keep on doing it. So they accumulate and accumulate and price and demand goes back up when the fomo starts again. Never game over.

the ups and downs of the market will not affect the brand / holder and the size.
they will always take advantage at all times. both when the market falls and rises. big whales will always enter when others panic sell.

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Yes, we cannot know what will happen in the future, but if we build our forecasts on fundamental indicators, then we have a better chance of guessing than if we believe each manipulation.

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The market will live it is true. But many projects will die and never rise. And if the investor had the misfortune to invest in such projects, then he has no chance to return his investment.

Expect to lose money on this market because its not about making profit always, so even if we predicted a best pump this year a black swan like the virus can still appear in the market. This is not a game over yet, this is normal and we can still reverse the trend after this virus so stay positive and keep your investment safe.

The black swan is a statistical event and it does not change anything if we talk about a long investment distance and a large number of deals. Even when playing a game with positive chances of winning, it is impossible to always win, which is why proper money management is necessary.
As for this year, traders do not care about the direction of the trend - now there are many tools that allow you to make a profit in a falling market.

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Quote from: samcrypto on March 30, 2020, 06:42:05 PM

Exactly, whales are just laughing to those who are selling on panic because whales can buy big again. We have to do the same thing and don’t ever think that bitcoin is over or even the whole cryptomarket because we are talking about big money here and a lot of big whales will not let this market die, this is just a down trend but not a game over.

Whales are laughing all the time and every time,,, they sell at X price as much as they can and everyone else panics,,, then they buy the dip and keep on doing it. So they accumulate and accumulate and price and demand goes back up when the fomo starts again. Never game over.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 27, 2020, 09:11:27 AM

Quote from: btc78 on March 27, 2020, 05:58:18 AM

and there is no Game over happening because for me this is another good time to start investing again.

Obviously it is for people who sees the opportunity, but not for people who panic,

Here, there are two types of people, those who panic during crisis and those who bought the dip when there is a crisis, usually those who bought at dip succeed, so let's be smart and make the right decision.

Exactly, whales are just laughing to those who are selling on panic because whales can buy big again. We have to do the same thing and don’t ever think that bitcoin is over or even the whole cryptomarket because we are talking about big money here and a lot of big whales will not let this market die, this is just a down trend but not a game over.

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Yes, we cannot know what will happen in the future, but if we build our forecasts on fundamental indicators, then we have a better chance of guessing than if we believe each manipulation.

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The market will live it is true. But many projects will die and never rise. And if the investor had the misfortune to invest in such projects, then he has no chance to return his investment.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 27, 2020, 05:58:18 AM

and there is no Game over happening because for me this is another good time to start investing again.

Obviously it is for people who sees the opportunity, but not for people who panic,

Here, there are two types of people, those who panic during crisis and those who bought the dip when there is a crisis, usually those who bought at dip succeed, so let's be smart and make the right decision.

It sounds beautiful, but in practice it is very difficult to apply. For example, can you say now whether the stock market has bottomed out or not? Similarly, about the price of bitcoin and other top coins. It’s very good to talk about the past, but we don’t know the future, therefore it is very difficult to make decisions and often this is just a guess.

Crypto itself is highly volatile than even stock market as it snot being regulated so very difficult to say it. But surely if people use strategy in investing purpose and does it on regular basis during the fall eventually in coming time one will make money from it. It is not going to just go down only and will never rise. Only thing is that one cannot time the market so one has to keep certain amount in order to buy during dips.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 30, 2020, 07:15:18 AM

Quote from: Natalim on March 27, 2020, 09:11:27 AM

Quote from: btc78 on March 27, 2020, 05:58:18 AM

and there is no Game over happening because for me this is another good time to start investing again.

Obviously it is for people who sees the opportunity, but not for people who panic,

Here, there are two types of people, those who panic during crisis and those who bought the dip when there is a crisis, usually those who bought at dip succeed, so let's be smart and make the right decision.

It sounds beautiful, but in practice it is very difficult to apply. For example, can you say now whether the stock market has bottomed out or not? Similarly, about the price of bitcoin and other top coins. It’s very good to talk about the past, but we don’t know the future, therefore it is very difficult to make decisions and often this is just a guess.

You are right, many published predictions are only guesses in the hope that many people will follow them and generate positive sentiment towards the market. I guess all this time it happened like that. such as the announcement of an update from the platform that caused many people to analyze and publish their predictions. when many people talk it can also affect market demand for updates that will occur. I think that's how it works, we will never really know what will happen in the future.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 27, 2020, 09:11:27 AM

Quote from: btc78 on March 27, 2020, 05:58:18 AM

and there is no Game over happening because for me this is another good time to start investing again.

Obviously it is for people who sees the opportunity, but not for people who panic,

Here, there are two types of people, those who panic during crisis and those who bought the dip when there is a crisis, usually those who bought at dip succeed, so let's be smart and make the right decision.

It sounds beautiful, but in practice it is very difficult to apply. For example, can you say now whether the stock market has bottomed out or not? Similarly, about the price of bitcoin and other top coins. It’s very good to talk about the past, but we don’t know the future, therefore it is very difficult to make decisions and often this is just a guess.

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Each observer can give an opinion in accordance with what they think. but make no mistake, all this has to do with the pandemic that is being faced by all countries in the world. what they want now is to stay at home until everything is completely normal. whether staying at home does not require a fee ?? Of course this requires a large fee. therefore they withdraw all investments made either in crypto or in the Fiat currency. so that large amounts of money are being drawn at this time as expenses for people during quarantine. obviously this is very influential in the world of commerce today

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That is the thing people are always forgetting, there are stop loss that gets triggered on almost ALL drops, when it is a big drop there is even more stop loss triggered so basically just one big sell could cause catastrophic drops with the stop losses. When that ponzi scheme sold 100 million dollars worth of bitcoins all at once, they also triggered probably at least 20 million more dollars, which triggered couple more million which to thousands and so forth.

Basically you could probably sell 1% of all coins on the market and then make bitcoin go down to under 5k in just once exchange, that's it, just one exchange. We have already seen how temporary this is so I think people will realize that we are no longer really in trouble anymore and go back to buying again.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 27, 2020, 05:58:18 AM

and there is no Game over happening because for me this is another good time to start investing again.

Obviously it is for people who sees the opportunity, but not for people who panic,

Here, there are two types of people, those who panic during crisis and those who bought the dip when there is a crisis, usually those who bought at dip succeed, so let's be smart and make the right decision.

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Quote from: jossiel on March 24, 2020, 11:43:22 PM

The FED just announced or they already did printed cash for this matter. I'll apply patience on this pandemic if it's for my investments in bitcoin and alts.

They'll print infinite cash, this is one of the reason why crypto is getting better now, crypto is different, we don't do that, we based on fix supply only so the price would certainly rise due to the increase of demand, i'd say, fiat is the greatest scam in the world.

and thats why we are much better than Fiat because of the limited volume and cannot be copied more,and this will make crypto better in future if people finds this against Paper money.

and there is no Game over happening because for me this is another good time to start investing again.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2020, 10:01:01 AM

In my opinion not all altcoins will be game over, because some altcoins that have strong fundamentals will be safe and will still survive.
Many people panic and are pessimistic about current market conditions, which have worsened due to the corona virus. But actually we
don't need to panic because we often experience several bad market conditions like this. And can always get past it, and therefore
remain optimistic hold coins that you think have good potential.

I have seen more than 1000 times people said the same thing anytime even since the bitcoin was born in the past. Just because crypto faced a big dump and it doesn't mean a game over for crypto. This is just the beginning for the crypto adoption. It looks like the guy who has said if crypto was gameover just feel panic.

Yes, you are right. We need to stay calm when we heard that news because that news has been created by people who don't like bitcoin, and they are telling fake news to people to make a panic to them. Perhaps, people who panic to see the market fallen don't have the right information about bitcoin so they cannot calm down, and they sell their bitcoin in fast. There will be more fake news like that to make people panic, but the dump of the crypto price is not the end of the crypto because the crypto will be rise again in the future.

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FED printing money will never be the solution to anything ever, not today not in history and not in the future. What it does is put a bandate on an arm that is cut from the body, it is not really fixing the situation. Would it help stop bleeding for a while? Maybe, but while stopping it will get ruined as well and will require another bandate, in this case another bail out.

So, if you keep giving companies bail outs as many times as they fail, those companies will never learn anything from it and they will continue to be risky with their investments and keep on bankrupting and asking for bail outs, because they know that government will not let them go bankrupt. They also pay these people bribes as well so that they would help them get those bail outs in return when things go bad.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2020, 10:01:01 AM

In my opinion not all altcoins will be game over, because some altcoins that have strong fundamentals will be safe and will still survive.
Many people panic and are pessimistic about current market conditions, which have worsened due to the corona virus. But actually we
don't need to panic because we often experience several bad market conditions like this. And can always get past it, and therefore
remain optimistic hold coins that you think have good potential.

That is true, the people just have a bad view to most altcoin which I think that's too much. I have an altcoin which is in position 1000 on coinmarketcap, but you have to know the altcoin is increasing day by day even they pass this situation (coronavirus) so as it now in 900 position at there. I have been profited and I never make a decision to sell them although the pump and dump scheme will most likely be happen but I will trust to the altcoin. The amount of altcoin are much on coinmarketcap but not all of them are worthless and being shitcoin, there will be some developer who still care and they always try to make some development again theie coin and able to up the coin/token price.

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Bitcoin or crypto in general could never be game over. However there could be game over currencies when this kind of low happens.

What people do not realize that when a coin or a token or basically any project is already having a hard time trying to survive and when things are not going well for them, that means they might die because of this, they were already doing bad so when this happens they are just game over, when all else recovers they are considered dead and never recover.

So, game over does happen for some projects, I know not many, and I know most of them even deserves to end so I am not really to sad about it, but we also can't say that it is not game over for some of the projects, we can't just act like everything is fine. Sure it is for the top ones but the bottom ones are dying because of this.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on March 26, 2020, 10:05:52 AM

Quote from: jossiel on March 24, 2020, 08:14:17 PM

It's true that there's no connection to covid and crypto but as we can see, this massive drop has lead many to panic which we're straightly affected now by the virus. It's the emotion of the people that made the cap down.

It's not a gameover, this is part of the volatility that we have accepted when we entered cryptocurrencies. And people who still rely with the news about mainnet launching, partnerships and other news that brings hype to investors will get to notice that it's no longer worth it.

I do get some of the panic to be fair,,, Bitcoin had its worst day on record of 24 hour slides. And this cannot really be compared to all the past events which happened when bitcoin market cap was so low and volume plus trade could be manipulated more easily. This happened in today's huge global market so it scared everybody.

But you are right, this is absolutely not game over!

Bitcoin showed us many times how strong it was.

These huge dumps that happened lately were just part of its nature and we can't avoid this if this happens in the future. But I'm moving forward and optimistic of the possible huge bounce back that it will show as it fuels back.

Not a chartists but very positive that it's hard to see and say even in the near future that it'll be a game over.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2020, 10:01:01 AM

In my opinion not all altcoins will be game over, because some altcoins that have strong fundamentals will be safe and will still survive.
Many people panic and are pessimistic about current market conditions, which have worsened due to the corona virus. But actually we
don't need to panic because we often experience several bad market conditions like this. And can always get past it, and therefore
remain optimistic hold coins that you think have good potential.

I have seen more than 1000 times people said the same thing anytime even since the bitcoin was born in the past. Just because crypto faced a big dump and it doesn't mean a game over for crypto. This is just the beginning for the crypto adoption. It looks like the guy who has said if crypto was gameover just feel panic.

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Quote from: jossiel on March 24, 2020, 08:14:17 PM

It's true that there's no connection to covid and crypto but as we can see, this massive drop has lead many to panic which we're straightly affected now by the virus. It's the emotion of the people that made the cap down.

It's not a gameover, this is part of the volatility that we have accepted when we entered cryptocurrencies. And people who still rely with the news about mainnet launching, partnerships and other news that brings hype to investors will get to notice that it's no longer worth it.

I do get some of the panic to be fair,,, Bitcoin had its worst day on record of 24 hour slides. And this cannot really be compared to all the past events which happened when bitcoin market cap was so low and volume plus trade could be manipulated more easily. This happened in today's huge global market so it scared everybody.

But you are right, this is absolutely not game over!

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In my opinion not all altcoins will be game over, because some altcoins that have strong fundamentals will be safe and will still survive.
Many people panic and are pessimistic about current market conditions, which have worsened due to the corona virus. But actually we
don't need to panic because we often experience several bad market conditions like this. And can always get past it, and therefore
remain optimistic hold coins that you think have good potential.

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