Majority of Libertarian would vote Romney if Gary Johnson didn't run.
I wouldn't.
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October 24, 2012, 04:31:21 PM
Majority of Libertarian would vote Romney if Gary Johnson didn't run.
I wouldn't.
October 24, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
Majority of Libertarian would vote Romney if Gary Johnson didn't run.
HELLLLL no.The choice the two parties offer is an illusion. They are two sides to the same coin. They really have things worked out well. All the anger and frustration that would be correctly directed toward the system is directed to one head, then the other head becomes popular because it appears to fight the other.
By the way, kokojie, I'm probably going to vote for Johnson on principle, but if I was forced to vote for a major party member, it would probably be Obama. So, there's that.
+1By the way, kokojie, I'm probably going to vote for Johnson on principle, but if I was forced to vote for a major party member, it would probably be Obama. So, there's that.
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October 24, 2012, 03:47:51 PM
Gary has received $933,010.07 raised from 11075 donors as of 12:47PM pacific 10-24-12
October 24, 2012, 03:17:18 PM
When I do those political-compass surveys I'm roughly where Rocky Anderson is, maybe a fraction lower and to the left. But of US presidential wannabes I've found Ron Paul and Gary Johnson the most appealing/least unappealing.
October 24, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Ron Paul was not included, why?
I don't know, I didn't compile that graph. When I've seen him on there, though, he's a little north and to the left of Johnson. Not by much on either, but more north than left.
October 24, 2012, 03:53:37 AM
Oh yeah... big difference, here:
Ron Paul was not included, why?
October 23, 2012, 11:44:23 PM
The choice the two parties offer is an illusion. They are two sides to the same coin. They really have things worked out well. All the anger and frustration that would be correctly directed toward the system is directed to one head, then the other head becomes popular because it appears to fight the other.
By the way, kokojie, I'm probably going to vote for Johnson on principle, but if I was forced to vote for a major party member, it would probably be Obama. So, there's that.
By the way, kokojie, I'm probably going to vote for Johnson on principle, but if I was forced to vote for a major party member, it would probably be Obama. So, there's that.
October 23, 2012, 10:52:25 PM
Yeah, GJ is Obama. *facepalm*
Romney is Obama. Their policies are almost identical and both are bought out by Goldman Sachs.
GJ is such a neocon who wants to cut military expenditure by 43% and legalize weed. Right. (I know, in practice, if any President with libertarian leanings were elected, there's a fair chance he would be either impeached or assassinated within the first two years of office, or Congress full of crookèd Reps and Dems wouldn't rubber stamp the President's plans.)
Romney is Obama. Their policies are almost identical and both are bought out by Goldman Sachs.
GJ is such a neocon who wants to cut military expenditure by 43% and legalize weed. Right. (I know, in practice, if any President with libertarian leanings were elected, there's a fair chance he would be either impeached or assassinated within the first two years of office, or Congress full of crookèd Reps and Dems wouldn't rubber stamp the President's plans.)
No, that's not true, I know Romney's position very well on the issues I care about, and many of them differ greatly from Obama. I doubt Romney can be easily "bought" since he's pretty rich already.
October 23, 2012, 10:34:59 PM
Yeah, GJ is Obama. *facepalm*
Romney is Obama. Their policies are almost identical and both are bought out by Goldman Sachs.
GJ is such a neocon who wants to cut military expenditure by 43% and legalize weed. Right. (I know, in practice, if any President with libertarian leanings were elected, there's a fair chance he would be either impeached or assassinated within the first two years of office, or Congress full of crookèd Reps and Dems wouldn't rubber stamp the President's plans.)
Romney is Obama. Their policies are almost identical and both are bought out by Goldman Sachs.
GJ is such a neocon who wants to cut military expenditure by 43% and legalize weed. Right. (I know, in practice, if any President with libertarian leanings were elected, there's a fair chance he would be either impeached or assassinated within the first two years of office, or Congress full of crookèd Reps and Dems wouldn't rubber stamp the President's plans.)
No, that's not true, I know Romney's position very well on the issues I care about, and many of them differ greatly from Obama. I doubt Romney can be easily "bought" since he's pretty rich already.
October 23, 2012, 10:33:02 PM
Nah that's ok.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Yep, anyone who vote Gary Johnson is a fucking idiot, you think you are voting for Gary Johnson, when in reality you are actually voting for Obama.
Nope. Anyone voting for Gary Johnson is helping him get the 5% of the popular vote he needs for federal matching funds and ballot access (and potentially debate access) that will change future races forever. And Gary Johnson takes an equal amount of votes from potential Obama voters as well.
I don't see how you think Gary Johnson is a pretend libertarian, name one issue. If anything, he is more libertarian than Ron Paul on abortion, and his stance on legalizing all drugs even makes some "self-proclaimed libertarians" cringe.
Majority of Libertarian would vote Romney if Gary Johnson didn't run.
No
October 23, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
Nah that's ok.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Yep, anyone who vote Gary Johnson is a fucking idiot, you think you are voting for Gary Johnson, when in reality you are actually voting for Obama.
Nope. Anyone voting for Gary Johnson is helping him get the 5% of the popular vote he needs for federal matching funds and ballot access (and potentially debate access) that will change future races forever. And Gary Johnson takes an equal amount of votes from potential Obama voters as well.
I don't see how you think Gary Johnson is a pretend libertarian, name one issue. If anything, he is more libertarian than Ron Paul on abortion, and his stance on legalizing all drugs even makes some "self-proclaimed libertarians" cringe.
Majority of Libertarian would vote Romney if Gary Johnson didn't run.
October 23, 2012, 07:39:34 PM
Nah that's ok.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Yep, anyone who vote Gary Johnson is a fucking idiot, you think you are voting for Gary Johnson, when in reality you are actually voting for Obama.
Nope. Anyone voting for Gary Johnson is helping him get the 5% of the popular vote he needs for federal matching funds and ballot access (and potentially debate access) that will change future races forever. And Gary Johnson takes an equal amount of votes from potential Obama voters as well.
I don't see how you think Gary Johnson is a pretend libertarian, name one issue. If anything, he is more libertarian than Ron Paul on abortion, and his stance on legalizing all drugs even makes some "self-proclaimed libertarians" cringe.
October 23, 2012, 05:08:26 PM
instant runoff voting would kickass
third party debate tonight:
http://action.freeandequal.org/debate-rsvp/
third party debate tonight:
http://action.freeandequal.org/debate-rsvp/
October 23, 2012, 04:02:21 PM
Nah that's ok.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Yep, anyone who vote Gary Johnson is a fucking idiot, you think you are voting for Gary Johnson, when in reality you are actually voting for Obama.
October 23, 2012, 10:45:57 AM
Yeah, GJ is Obama. *facepalm*
Romney is Obama. Their policies are almost identical and both are bought out by Goldman Sachs.
GJ is such a neocon who wants to cut military expenditure by 43% and legalize weed. Right. (I know, in practice, if any President with libertarian leanings were elected, there's a fair chance he would be either impeached or assassinated within the first two years of office, or Congress full of crookèd Reps and Dems wouldn't rubber stamp the President's plans.)
Romney is Obama. Their policies are almost identical and both are bought out by Goldman Sachs.
GJ is such a neocon who wants to cut military expenditure by 43% and legalize weed. Right. (I know, in practice, if any President with libertarian leanings were elected, there's a fair chance he would be either impeached or assassinated within the first two years of office, or Congress full of crookèd Reps and Dems wouldn't rubber stamp the President's plans.)
October 23, 2012, 10:17:40 AM
Nah that's ok.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Yep, anyone who vote Gary Johnson is a fucking idiot, you think you are voting for Gary Johnson, when in reality you are actually voting for Obama.
October 23, 2012, 08:56:37 AM
Nah that's ok.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.
October 21, 2012, 02:29:09 PM
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i like to donate to gary johnson on my own
get it?
You can legally give me gifts
I can legally donate to Gary Johnson
Nothing illegal. And Bitcoin's legality is questionable itself. Are people scared in this thread?
Are you revolutionaries or cowards
October 21, 2012, 11:27:37 AM
Wouldn't Bitcoin donations help bypass the restrictions on foreign donors? 
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Yes, there's some sense in this law. ISTR in the UK you can make anonymous donations to political parties if the amount is less than GBP 5.000 (but IANAL so don't quote me on this).
October 20, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
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