Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited) - page 2.

Joebrann

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Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on May 06, 2016, 02:40:35 PM

Quote from: Joebrann on May 06, 2016, 08:16:26 AM

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

**snip**

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.

Wow ok so when you let's say Radeon settings and you overclock it to whatever let's say 1200/1600.

You have it set right so when you turn it off and turn it back on the settings are still the same correct it does not reset it on you so sorry to burst your bubble it is setup to save your previous settings.

I hate when people write things and yet do not know what they are talking about.

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Quote from: Joebrann on May 06, 2016, 08:16:26 AM

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

**snip**

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.

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Quote from: Joebrann on May 06, 2016, 08:16:26 AM

Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on May 05, 2016, 12:20:19 PM

Quote from: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 04:03:56 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 02:06:30 AM

Quote from: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 01:53:21 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 01:46:43 AM

I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.

Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.

This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..

Maybe one of the companies has an issue with flashing the bios, but nope. Considering the GPU itself changes its clock a lot...

I *think* you are getting ripped off by gimmicks by that shop, OP.

I did not check the ToU of Gigabyte but i have not had a problem with them and i have lots of Gigabyte GPU. Meanwhile MSI and EVGA has no problem with it.

Here is EVGA FAQ;
"http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=55"

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What would your price be roughly for say shipping a GPU to Asia Pacific?

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Also just to let you know this does not just go for one or 2 this could be for 100 if you wanted and all can just be walked in and swapped receipts and escrow as always..

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Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on May 05, 2016, 12:20:19 PM

Quote from: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 04:03:56 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 02:06:30 AM

Quote from: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 01:53:21 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 01:46:43 AM

I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.

Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.

This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..

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Go Big or Go Home.....

The store is going to let you get away with this? Huh

After a bunch of returns they will start to give you the stink eye..

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Quote from: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 04:03:56 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 02:06:30 AM

Quote from: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 01:53:21 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 01:46:43 AM

I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.

Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.

This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 02:06:30 AM

Quote from: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 01:53:21 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 01:46:43 AM

I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.

Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.

This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

Joebrann

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Quote from: Quartx on May 05, 2016, 02:12:20 AM

What would be your shipping estimate for international shoppers?

Depends on location there is a small premium for me having to do the leg work if I have to return it then re-ship it (This is included in the Full Price) except the re-shipment fees.

Let me know what your looking for where your at then I can throw you a cost most places should be fine to ship from the US.

If it saves money can add on packaging that it's broken or some sort like that so your duties would be less I know some places are like that.

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What would be your shipping estimate for international shoppers?

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Quote from: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 01:53:21 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 01:46:43 AM

I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.

Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.

Joebrann

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 01:46:43 AM

I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.

Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

Also some people in the US will know the store that I am talking about as they will have one near them.
So please don't post the store as most places don't have then and I am offering this as so called distributor.

Just do the same and be competitive. Also receipt will also be available as proof of it was paid for the only thing is the name will be hidden for the store as like I said not everyone has one and I don't want people musceling in..

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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.

Joebrann

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I have a computer store near me some know it but this will be included world wide shipping is included in the US. I can grab cards and get overclocking coverage just walk in and get an exchange for it.

Right now I have the R9 390 8gb Gigabyte card with a 3 year overclock protection warranty they offer 2 years as well let me know if your interested if you are obviously you would have to send it to me to take back in to get the exchange.

Let me know what model ect and I'd give you the price again just gauging interest escrow as always but buyer pays shipping.

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