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September 26, 2011, 01:06:33 AM
#50
I should have said I'm over 40 and don't understand the younger generation's colloquialism.

You know, it's relatively easy to guess an approximate age of a person based on the way he talks.

So, nice try pretending  Roll Eyes
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September 26, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
#49
Well, its been fun guys...but the lady of the house has just imposed curfew upon me  Grin.. Stay out of trouble.
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Merit: 10
September 26, 2011, 12:06:08 AM
#48
@Cornedbeefhash
"Of course you realize you sound like a lunatic"

I guess I do. shame on me... I should have said I'm over 40 and don't understand the younger generation's colloquialism.
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Merit: 10
September 25, 2011, 11:49:45 PM
#47
@viperjbm

"lovsls ..... bang :s)"

HuhHuh!!!!!- WTF? You have to excuse me...I'm over 40 don't understand 20's speak!!
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September 25, 2011, 11:37:44 PM
#46
@viperjbm

"cant cunturbute? io staurted this arguent dumbares!!  lol"

Because you don't seem to understand your position in a losing argument, I am going to have fun messing with you little man.

Since it appears to me you only have a high school GED, let me make it simple:

1. I made a comment about people not attaking Gavin;
2. I did not specifically address you;
3. You took it upon yourself to attack me;
4. I replied back to you;
5. You replied "cant cunturbute? io staurted this arguent dumbares!!";
6. So who started the argument hero?;
7. Why is it you have a nervous llol;ll and lol are you a little girl?'

No offense but the way you spell are you of african american descent ? or are you american at all ? No I don't care how much posts you have, on the contrary cock sucker, based on the previous comments from you I would assume half of it is pure horse shit. I don't know who you're trying to impress on this board, maybe you have followers but I'm not one of them.

Fire away prick i'm gonna have a little fun with you.

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Activity: 65
Merit: 10
September 25, 2011, 11:07:36 PM
#45
"viperjm,

which anus did you just crawl out from motherfucker...pieces of shit like you don't don't deserve to exist. You are precisely the type of lowlife I used to watch get fucking beat up in the navy...shit, if I realized it was you I would have contributed to some of those blows as well.

Go out there and be a man and perform ritualistic suicide you motherfucking ingrate..."

"llo;;l"

I thought so pussy, keyboard warriors like you only got mouth, I've met lots of characters like you before...listen here, jackass if you cant contribute STFU.
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September 25, 2011, 10:50:43 PM
#44
viperjm,

which anus did you just crawl out from motherfucker...pieces of shit like you don't don't deserve to exist. You are precisely the type of lowlife I used to watch get fucking beat up in the navy...shit, if I realized it was you I would have contributed to some of those blows as well.

Go out there and be a man and perform ritualistic suicide you motherfucking ingrate...
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September 25, 2011, 10:27:07 PM
#43
Oh my, all the bickering and demands from all these important self-entitled heroes...for Christ's sakes leave the man alone (Gavin). Conflict of interest you say? Can you read the future and predict Gavin will be tempted by self-serving interest? I understand with all the previous fiasco that many are extremely wary about the intentions of others but to overthink a situation to the point of a brain fuck is not likely going to help either. Have a civilized dialog with Gavin as a community and encourage open dialog with the development team.

To all the tough internet rambos, quit attacking him hollwood hero, as its contrary to positive and open dialog...nuff said.
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1014
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
September 23, 2011, 07:44:16 PM
#42
My crystal ball sees Gavin doing a lot of work developing bitcoin into something great. What is his reward? This thread. He needs *something* Microsoft or Apple can buy to say that bitcoin was their idea all along. He can sell them the Truecoin client, and take a VP title while the bitcoin network continues to evolve as an open source project. Ain't capitalism swell?
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
September 23, 2011, 01:28:30 PM
#41
Stop panicking and spreading unnecessary paranoia.
This is open source world. The "old" ways don't apply.

As long as we have the Bitcoin source, nobody(or everybody) controls the currency. No company can take over an open source project. Ever.

still catching up on the thread, but mysql comes to mind to dispute this..  and wasn't java original open source too?
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1073
September 23, 2011, 12:01:54 PM
#40
(This happened on other P2P networks as well. Does anyone still use the original bittorrent client?)
Well, bittorrent was an inclusionary protocol. Bitcoin is the opposite: explicit exclusionary protocol.

Anyway, I just checked the blame on lines 1297 down to 1307:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blame/master/src/main.cpp

Gavin Andresen had wisely ceded the signature control over checkpoints to fabianhjr. Hopefully Fabian resides in a country that doesn't have an adversarial legal system.

legendary
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Bringing Legendary Har® to you since 1952
September 23, 2011, 10:11:26 AM
#39
Well the contrasting option would be if bitcoin had wired-in kill switches and backdoors so that he could control the network. Some alternative chains have this. Obviously (and luckily), this is not the case for bitcoin.

I can probably easily detect something very suspicious in code when I analyse small parts of it, and I am not ever a proper C/C++ programmer.

Imagine what an experienced, "everyday-C++" guy can do given a week of time. Perhaps even review entire code for backdoors.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1022
No Maps for These Territories
September 23, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
#38
Well the contrasting option would be if bitcoin had wired-in kill switches and backdoors so that he could control the network. Some alternative chains have this. Obviously (and luckily), this is not the case for bitcoin.
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1014
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
September 23, 2011, 09:27:59 AM
#37
So, what you're saying is that somebody could do things to the original client that would make it a lesser client, but at the same time create or enhance a forked client?
No, the original client would not become worse. It would simply slowly become less popular.


Right, the project is still open-source so if Gavin shows us a better client and it becomes popular, then maybe he will get some competition... er, HELP developing the core  Grin
hero member
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No Maps for These Territories
September 23, 2011, 09:25:23 AM
#36
So, what you're saying is that somebody could do things to the original client that would make it a lesser client, but at the same time create or enhance a forked client?
No, the original client would not become worse. It would simply slowly become less popular. Again, the same happened to bittorrent.

I'm not saying that this will happen, but it means that Gavin's power over bitcoin is not absolute.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
September 23, 2011, 09:23:30 AM
#35
Yes, with the lead developer working for a private company it won't be long before the people who control the client are also the people that control the exchanges and ewallets. Then when Bank of America buys a controlling share in Trucoin and winds down the business, you're all fucked.
Gavin does not "control the client". He's the figurehead of bitcoin, sure, but everyone with enough time/resources and the necessary skill could fork or and build a better client. If it's much better the original client could be marginalized.

(This happened on other P2P networks as well. Does anyone still use the original bittorrent client?)


So, what you're saying is that somebody could do things to the original client that would make it a lesser client, but at the same time create or enhance a forked client?
hero member
Activity: 812
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No Maps for These Territories
September 23, 2011, 09:18:40 AM
#34
Yes, with the lead developer working for a private company it won't be long before the people who control the client are also the people that control the exchanges and ewallets. Then when Bank of America buys a controlling share in Trucoin and winds down the business, you're all fucked.
Gavin does not "control the client". He's the figurehead of bitcoin, sure, but everyone with enough time/resources and the necessary skill could fork or and build a better client. If it's much better the original client could be marginalized.

(This happened on other P2P networks as well. Does anyone still use the original bittorrent client?)

So it's really doubtful that there is a conflict of interest here. Just let the man do what he does and mind your own business :p
legendary
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Bringing Legendary Har® to you since 1952
September 23, 2011, 07:34:23 AM
#33
Is TruCoin involved in mining by any chance ?

http://www.trucoin.com/

They have a products list on the site:  Exchange, Ewallet, store and more.

Yes, with the lead developer working for a private company it won't be long before the people who control the client are also the people that control the exchanges and ewallets. Then when Bank of America buys a controlling share in Trucoin and winds down the business, you're all fucked.

Stop panicking and spreading unnecessary paranoia.
This is open source world. The "old" ways don't apply.

As long as we have the Bitcoin source, nobody(or everybody) controls the currency. No company can take over an open source project. Ever.
sr. member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 250
September 23, 2011, 07:28:55 AM
#32
Is TruCoin involved in mining by any chance ?

http://www.trucoin.com/

They have a products list on the site:  Exchange, Ewallet, store and more.

Yes, with the lead developer working for a private company it won't be long before the people who control the client are also the people that control the exchanges and ewallets. Then when Bank of America buys a controlling share in Trucoin and winds down the business, you're all fucked.

3 updates to their webpage since August 27th hardly puts me in mind of a hive of activity and exciting new projects they want to tell the world about. Maybe there's no updates since everything they're doing is hush hush rather than free and open, but that's the business world for you I guess...
legendary
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Merit: 1010
September 22, 2011, 04:39:54 PM
#31
Threads like this make me really wish that there was a way for people to sign up to my ignore list directly, and skip the extra steps of them having to write insane garbage and me having to read it.

Be thankful that you're not a mod, then.  Whenever someone clicks, "Report to Moderator" I get a copy of this crap in my email.
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